********** The all new "Official" iPhone 4S thread - Keep all the iPhone 4S stuff in here **********
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Ok.. let's try to narrow it down. All the folks with low battery life and good/high battery life, could you confirm:
Does you phone atm need charging under or over 24h, mark it good or bad
icloud mail (on/off)
icloud contacts/calendars/reminders (on/off)
do you have any mail or contacts set up as exchange
Is you "fetch new data" Push set to On or off and do you have fetch set to schedule or manually?
So for example, I would post
Battery life: Needs charging under 18h with ~4h usage, battery life bad
iCloud mail: off
iCloud contacts/calendars/reminders: on/on/on
gMail contacts sync set up as exchange
Push off, fetch manual.
Does you phone atm need charging under or over 24h, mark it good or bad
icloud mail (on/off)
icloud contacts/calendars/reminders (on/off)
do you have any mail or contacts set up as exchange
Is you "fetch new data" Push set to On or off and do you have fetch set to schedule or manually?
So for example, I would post
Battery life: Needs charging under 18h with ~4h usage, battery life bad
iCloud mail: off
iCloud contacts/calendars/reminders: on/on/on
gMail contacts sync set up as exchange
Push off, fetch manual.
How would it be possible for the battery to last as long as it did in a 4 given that the 4s has two cores to run and Siri etc rinsing the battery? Surely people don't expect it to be as good?
However as a side note I have heard that iPhone 4 users have lost battery life when upgrading to ios5.
Also has anyone directly compared the screens on an iPhone 4 and a 4s? I think the 4 looked better in terms of the colour reproduction for some reason. As in looking at the same photo on both the 4 looks more vibrant to me. (both on max brightness)
Maybe it just varies per device.
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However as a side note I have heard that iPhone 4 users have lost battery life when upgrading to ios5.
Also has anyone directly compared the screens on an iPhone 4 and a 4s? I think the 4 looked better in terms of the colour reproduction for some reason. As in looking at the same photo on both the 4 looks more vibrant to me. (both on max brightness)
Maybe it just varies per device.
G
Guru, people expect better battery on the 4S, because Apple are stating and selling the device claiming it has outstanding battery performance. They also claim the 4S has an hour more talktime at 3G compare to the iPhone 4.
This is hardly outstanding.
Edit/ iPhone 4 and 4S comparison.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare-iphones/
It seems talk time is up on the 4S, while stand by is down.
This is hardly outstanding.
Edit/ iPhone 4 and 4S comparison.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare-iphones/
It seems talk time is up on the 4S, while stand by is down.
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Soldato
IIRC it's actually a different battery as well, so the 4 and 4S are not directly comparable.
Soldato
As N19h7m4r3 said however, technology changes mean that A5 is approx 73% faster than A4 in benchmarks at lower power usage.
Standby difference is because 4S cannot switch from 3G to 2G data, manual option to switch 2G data on has been disabled in IOS 5 settings for 4S devices and therefore standby will be affected as the mast search and coverage availability while on move will be much more aggressive than with previous generation.
To my surprise, this sudden yankee induced jump in tech without looking back, might be actually a bit of a problem to some of us. I'm with T-Mobile for example, and we now have this "free roaming" network with Orange backbone. The idea was that in areas of poor coverage or areas where redundant/outdated T-mobile masts are being switched off, all T-Mobile phones would automatically switch over to the new "togetherness" of the T-Mobile Orange network. Trouble is Orange roaming is 2G and EDGE based, and every now and then creates a bit of a havoc, where the new iphone 4S can do 2G voice but MUST be on 3G network, which in case of T-Mobile-on-Orange it doesn't always understand, thus on some masts I'll have 5 bars of signal for talk, then the phone stumbles and falls all over the place:
T-Mobile and Orange keep this "temporary migration" going for over a year now and being completely incompetent bunch of muppets they are practically caught unprepared, with their pants down by new wave of phones that will not do the ancient tech anymore thus rendering their half baked "internal roaming" completely broken and useless for some customers. I, for one, move and drive a lot, so I get caught by this **** all the time, even in parts of London. I honestly cannot wait for the end of the contract and I'm never, ever going to either of the networks. Never the less, gents - this highlights small problem for those of you that expect to go abroad to countries of, let's call it, lesser technologies available - you may suffer from a lot of screens like the one above in remote areas.
Standby difference is because 4S cannot switch from 3G to 2G data, manual option to switch 2G data on has been disabled in IOS 5 settings for 4S devices and therefore standby will be affected as the mast search and coverage availability while on move will be much more aggressive than with previous generation.
To my surprise, this sudden yankee induced jump in tech without looking back, might be actually a bit of a problem to some of us. I'm with T-Mobile for example, and we now have this "free roaming" network with Orange backbone. The idea was that in areas of poor coverage or areas where redundant/outdated T-mobile masts are being switched off, all T-Mobile phones would automatically switch over to the new "togetherness" of the T-Mobile Orange network. Trouble is Orange roaming is 2G and EDGE based, and every now and then creates a bit of a havoc, where the new iphone 4S can do 2G voice but MUST be on 3G network, which in case of T-Mobile-on-Orange it doesn't always understand, thus on some masts I'll have 5 bars of signal for talk, then the phone stumbles and falls all over the place:
T-Mobile and Orange keep this "temporary migration" going for over a year now and being completely incompetent bunch of muppets they are practically caught unprepared, with their pants down by new wave of phones that will not do the ancient tech anymore thus rendering their half baked "internal roaming" completely broken and useless for some customers. I, for one, move and drive a lot, so I get caught by this **** all the time, even in parts of London. I honestly cannot wait for the end of the contract and I'm never, ever going to either of the networks. Never the less, gents - this highlights small problem for those of you that expect to go abroad to countries of, let's call it, lesser technologies available - you may suffer from a lot of screens like the one above in remote areas.
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It seems the Apple support forums are covered in people with similar problems.
71 pages in this one thread alone.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3391947?start=1050&tstart=0
Here's a quote from one guy that had the Apple "Geniuses" check it.
This certainly seems to be a bigger problem then most realise.
71 pages in this one thread alone.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3391947?start=1050&tstart=0
Here's a quote from one guy that had the Apple "Geniuses" check it.
This certainly seems to be a bigger problem then most realise.
As N19h7m4r3 said however, technology changes mean that A5 is approx 73% faster than A4 in benchmarks at lower power usage.
Standby difference is because 4S cannot switch from 3G to 2G data, manual option to switch 2G data on has been disabled in IOS 5 settings for 4S devices and therefore standby will be affected as the mast search and coverage availability while on move will be much more aggressive than with previous generation.
To my surprise, this sudden yankee induced jump in tech without looking back, might be actually a bit of a problem to some of us. I'm with T-Mobile for example, and we now have this "free roaming" network with Orange backbone. The idea was that in areas of poor coverage or areas where redundant/outdated T-mobile masts are being switched off, all T-Mobile phones would automatically switch over to the new "togetherness" of the T-Mobile Orange network. Trouble is Orange roaming is 2G and EDGE based, and every now and then creates a bit of a havoc, where the new iphone 4S can do 2G voice but MUST be on 3G network, which in case of T-Mobile-on-Orange it doesn't always understand, thus on some masts I'll have 5 bars of signal for talk, then the phone stumbles and falls all over the place:
T-Mobile and Orange keep this "temporary migration" going for over a year now and being completely incompetent bunch of muppets they are practically caught unprepared, with their pants down by new wave of phones that will not do the ancient tech anymore thus rendering their half baked "internal roaming" completely broken and useless for some customers. I, for one, move and drive a lot, so I get caught by this **** all the time, even in parts of London. I honestly cannot wait for the end of the contract and I'm never, ever going to either of the networks. Never the less, gents - this highlights small problem for those of you that expect to go abroad to countries of, let's call it, lesser technologies available - you may suffer from a lot of screens like the one above in remote areas.
Orange/T-Mobile have switched on roaming on 3g in a lot of areas. I'm with Orange and get T-Mobile 3G where available when i have no Orange signal. And before you call you call people muppets you should get the facts first as in they could'nt roll it out any faster as it was being took to court by the mast maintainers.
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That would kinda make sense as networks searchs suck a lot of juice so i've heard.
Its been activated down here in cornwall. It seems very hit and miss though. I have yet to see t-mobile 3g but do seem to have 3g in more location. Edge seems to be poppimg up more often also. 3g speeds aint great though, average for me in many location is 0.9mbps wih my max being 1.88mbps
Soldato
The Apple store replaced my phone, will see how the new one does.
Did you leave the phone virgin clean for testing or load all your old apps and stuff back on?
Depends how you compare.... here's mine currently:
How you get that I will never know.
I got 3 h 53min usage
1 day 12 hours standby
With 1% left
Do you do full charges overnight then drain right down or small charges more often?
The screens are better on the 4S. I compared to my friends 4. Mine on less than half brightness looks brighter/more vibrant than his on more than half brightness
I have Siri off now as its useless at the moment anyway. (no UK businesses or locations)
Soldato
Restored from iCloud in store. Charged it fully last night, took it off charge at 7am, still at 100% now and usage shows 4 minutes, looking good so far.
Strange, I added about 5gb of music last night. Fully charged until midnight and by 6am it was down to 90%. A couple of nights ago without music it was down to just 98% from 100%
Usage last night showed 24minutes when idle.
Something is definatley up with the battery, indicator or IOS5
Usage last night showed 24minutes when idle.
Something is definatley up with the battery, indicator or IOS5
Don
Hmm, I pulled my 4S off charge at 6am.
I've not used it but have just checked battery. 86% not good.
Usage stats say 3hrs 40mins of use
Definitely some shenanigans going on with it.
I've not used it but have just checked battery. 86% not good.
Usage stats say 3hrs 40mins of use
Definitely some shenanigans going on with it.
Install netstat. Have you disabled ping, location based time services, iads and logged out of itunes store?
Do you have find my friends running?
any Siri location bases reminders?