********** The all new "Official" iPhone 4S thread - Keep all the iPhone 4S stuff in here **********

easyrider said:
Then why buy it?

When you can better for less?

This is a basic concept of consumerism
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Because 'better' can mean many different things, and better tech specs is only one of those things!

People buy products because of better specs, better appearance, better usability, better integration with other products, better support, better reliability, better build quality, better UI, better range of software, or even just better status and better prestige.

None of those reasons is any more valid than any other. If you choose the phone which has better specs, that's fine. If someone else buys a phone because it's easy to use - or even because it helps them look hip in Starbucks - that's fine too.

Any product as complex as a smartphone is a lot more than just a collection of parts.
 
Remind me to go troll the Mobile forum next time an android set gets released with what i perceive to be pointless features/tech. (I feel sorry for Feek, moderating this is a complete nightmare )
 
It wasn't an analogy anyway, it was a statement.. a true one at that.

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the popularity of the iPhone not only comes from the marketing but down to the bloody good apps that have been written for it. I know very little about android phones but after having a play around with a couple they just don't have the intuitiveness of an iPhone and you can have all of the hardware at your disposal but if you don't have the OS to compliment it then....

When I had a look on the mobiles section on here a few months back there was talk of them having to flash the ROM of the handset to get rid of all the provider's bloatware. Now that to me is just mental, I don't understand why you need to find out so much on a mobile device?

I could care less personally about the above and I'm more than happy with my iPhone4, it is easily fast enough for what I need it to do.
 
Alpherah said:
I think you'l find you and others were instead bringing the typical 'LOL NOT BEST SPEC!' answer to the table, instantly ending any hope of a constructive debate about the new features (camera, video, assistant etc).
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Camera, same spec as older products and the same for the video. Assistant, could be good, not my cup of tea, maybe if it's better than other solutions...
Back to page 1 methinks, and the crux of my argument, which some have been able to nicely debate. I've just put the whole thing together as dull in my mind, some might really look forward to the new features, I'm not so convinced. The best spec might be valid to some, the whole package doesn't excite me at all. I went along and took a look at the previous iPhones at the first chance, this one doesn't excite me the same. I also looked at the iPad and iPad 2, nice spec and package, but not for me and my family. That's my opinion. Yes we're in the Apple section, but even so, I'm not going to come out and say i'm going to buy this when as a product, in the whole, it just doesn't excite me much. I fully realise that things have slowed down in some respects in the mobile market, and are consolidating into less platforms with more market share, but the hardware appears to be steaming ahead, something that you must realise is not with this product. Perhaps they don't need to, perhaps Apple have done just enough to keep them doing ok this cycle, but I seriously doubt it and believe they're a tad conservative. As I pointed out, if this release was back in june I wouldn't being saying half as much on this subject...
 
dannyjo22 said:
Dissapointed with the pricing on the apple store now the 4S has been announced. I expected the 16gb 4 to be at the price of the 3GS. Instead they have removed the 16 and 32gb 4 and just now sell the 8GB for £429. That's a complete **** take tbh.
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That is a bit junk...o well...resale market is gonna be rife!

Will be eagerly watching the auction sites on 32Gbs variants.
 
Johnz0r said:
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the popularity of the iPhone not only comes from the marketing but down to the bloody good apps that have been written for it. I know very little about android phones but after having a play around with a couple they just don't have the intuitiveness of an iPhone and you can have all of the hardware at your disposal but if you don't have the OS to compliment it then....
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Exactly.

Android has lots of hardware power, but the software does not often use that power. The iPhone app quality and 3D game selection simply blows Android out of the water.

If you wanted to 'wow' someone with a phone, you'd need an iPhone to do it.

james.miller said:
you might as well call a spade a spade. you dont need to come out with nonsense like that to point out the obvious dross in this thread.
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Some people only understand 'nonsense', unfortunately.
 
Alpherah said:
Again, whats the point in "HD" ?
Still convinced you won't see any difference on a screen that size between the iPhones resolution and 720p.
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It is more about the fact that android will have a retina equivalent. Apple were always setting new highs in technology and much of that was hardware based. Touchscreens that worked, and retina displays etc. Now android will catch up by year end and it will be a software shootout.

Though I complain a lot about apple, they create new markets, standards and innovate. The consumers benefit as a result. The iPhone 4s innovate nothing. IOS 5 may bring a lot but I have not noticed much.

This leaves Siri. I hope it works spectacularly and that we have just witnessed the introduction of a new staple.
 
Johnz0r said:
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the popularity of the iPhone not only comes from the marketing but down to the bloody good apps that have been written for it. I know very little about android phones but after having a play around with a couple they just don't have the intuitiveness of an iPhone and you can have all of the hardware at your disposal but if you don't have the OS to compliment it then....
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That was my point with the GPU analogy, specs on paper don't matter if the software isn't capable of taking advantage of them. Something 'slower' but more efficient can out perform something that should be faster.

A perfect example would be the games available on the iPhone 4, a relatively slow single core CPU/GPU running at a very high res is capabele of better graphics than any Android based phone.
 
3dcandy said:
Camera, same spec as older products and the same for the video.
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Really? sure there's been 8mp cameras but i doubt for one second that this has been included in a previous phone, glass quality, sensor quality and the image processing are far more important then the MP bump and appear to be advanced of previous mobile phone photo solutions.
 
Hope this puts things into perspective.

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tis an exmor r sensor, already in use (possibly slightly different) in experia phones?
nowt new really, as said above...
Samsung use backlit sensors now, their next is rumoured to be 16mp, backlit and with fantastic low light performance...
 
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