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SteveOBHave said:
Quite - it's not so much about competing in raw power but presenting an attractive package that uses a really well presented UI (regardless of it's limitations) that is for the most, idiot proof. They follow the old K.I.S.S. adage (Keep it simple stupid) and the end result is a great user experience that the every day user loves.

As for suggesting that the Android OS is not 'decent' is selling a it a bit short in my opinion. In a great many aspects it's a far more capable OS just somewhat more prone to inducing confusion and possibly requiring a little more thought in setting it up. When Apple aren't breaking every iPhone on the planet with updates, they 'Just Work'. Android has more substance but at the cost of immediacy for the user experience.

Again it's not about stats but usability and functionality. For the majority of users the iPhone and iOS has that in spades. It's just important to retain a balanced and fair view on the subject.
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Not gunna lie, from being a user of Andriod and also someone that supports people using them in a enterprise enviroment. They are terrible to use! nothing is where expected, its horrible to set anything up and still after 2years lacks VPN! Yet give me and iPhone and I can set up enterprise email and VPN in 2minutes.. go figure on why people prefer iPhones. People don't want to be spending 10minutes to find where to change there ringtone. I wouldn't step back from an iphone. I even told my Galaxy tab for a ipad 2 - generally because of andriod.
 
waso_dude said:
Not gunna lie, from being a user of Andriod and also someone that supports people using them in a enterprise enviroment. They are terrible to use! nothing is where expected, its horrible to set anything up and still after 2years lacks VPN! Yet give me and iPhone and I can set up enterprise email and VPN in 2minutes.. go figure on why people prefer iPhones. People don't want to be spending 10minutes to find where to change there ringtone. I wouldn't step back from an iphone. I even told my Galaxy tab for a ipad 2 - generally because of andriod.
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My mum got an android and it took me a day to set it up for her - horrible to use in comparison.
 
waso_dude said:
Processing power is nothing with out a decent OS and apps. Both of which the iphone has over Andriod or RIM.
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Nothing wrong with Android or the applications

EVH said:
Apple's main strength has always been the synergy between hardware and software.

Look at some benchmarks and you'll see that even though the chip is clocked lower, it's beaten everything in the market.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/...rks-800mhz-a5-slightly-slower-gpu-than-ipad-2
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So? That’s about to be rectified with ICS.

Or like I’ve done you could just install CM7.1 rom, suddenly CPU benchmark results are much higher, or if you want more overclock. :)
 
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waso_dude said:
Not gunna lie, from being a user of Andriod and also someone that supports people using them in a enterprise enviroment. They are terrible to use! nothing is where expected, its horrible to set anything up and still after 2years lacks VPN! Yet give me and iPhone and I can set up enterprise email and VPN in 2minutes.. go figure on why people prefer iPhones. People don't want to be spending 10minutes to find where to change there ringtone. I wouldn't step back from an iphone. I even told my Galaxy tab for a ipad 2 - generally because of andriod.
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Eh? VPN is under Settings/Wireless & Networks/VPN Settings.
Enterprise email is as easy as setting up on an iPhone/iPad... In all honesty I find the Enterprise experience to be equally lacking in both but then I'm used to using RIMs BES and having the control freak admin on that... I find the Enterprise aspects of both OSs to be peripheral at best.

Either way - it's semantics and I do agree with you - there is some basic functionality that requires more diddling around on Android than on iOS - and it's what I was saying - iOS is undeniably the most accessible UI available today. Much of it is horses for courses no doubt but in opposite to you, I would not go back from my Android phone to Apple, not because of the device (I love that) but because of having the Apple infrastructure tapping my credit card constantly. EDIT: or having them tell me what I can or can't do on my device.

Deku said:
My mum got an android and it took me a day to set it up for her - horrible to use in comparison.
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I have to ask - was it because it completely made no sense or because you are so used to the iOS context that you just didn't know where to look? I use both regularly and, in my attempted unbiased opinion, they are both fairly easy to set up.
 
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And here's me chopping in my BB 9780 for a 4S tomorrow.

Ive been through the whole smartphone era sarting from XDA's. Nothing comes close to to Apple now. Ive been waiting for them to sort silly things out (wireless sync etc) and IOS5 is the deal breaker for me.

I dont want to fanny about installing and configuring various widgets, and having to install custom ROM's. Ive been there with the XDA's. It was fun at the time, now I just want something which works. And works instantly. The iphone OS is the slickest thing out there.

Roll on tomorrow :)
 
ebilcake said:
So specs seem to be 800MHz dual core with 512MB of memory, the only thing I like about iPhone 4S compared to other high end phones available is the graphics chip.

There are 1.5GHz phones being released shortly with higher resolution displays. Are you guys seriously happy with this phone?
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All you've done is complain since it was announced and try and put forward the point that Android is better just because it has marginally faster hardware specs that actually work out to be slower... :D

Give it a rest. :)
 
SteveOBHave said:
I have to ask - was it because it completely made no sense or because you are so used to the iOS context that you just didn't know where to look? I use both regularly and, in my attempted unbiased opinion, they are both fairly easy to set up.
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I really did not find it that easy, be it cos I'm so used to iOS I'm not sure. I had to research online for things on how to do stuff.
 
Alpherah said:
This thread needs deleting tbh :p and a new one with a rule not to bash Apple devices or counter bash Android devices.
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Where's the fun in that? I like hearing both sides of the argument.

How boring would it be if we all just gushed together at how amazing our iPhones are.
 
ebilcake said:
Or like I’ve done you could just install CM7.1 rom, suddenly CPU benchmark results are much higher, or if you want more overclock. :)
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But you cant compare a stock iPhone v's a rooted and custom Android can you? The laymen wont root/Customize their android, they will just use it as it is, hell most probably wont even update it!
 
Anyone in London had a shipping notification yet? I ordered within minutes of the site going live but my order still says preparing for shipment.
 
Robbo said:
All you've done is complain since it was announced and try and put forward the point that Android is better just because it has marginally faster hardware specs that actually work out to be slower... :D

Give it a rest. :)
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Indeed - it's a pointless argument and one of the main reasons for discussions degrading into useless willy waving poop slinging matches.


Deku said:
I really did not find it that easy, be it cos I'm so used to iOS I'm not sure. I had to research online for things on how to do stuff.
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Understood - I still have to go looks stuff up for Blackberrys sometimes - too many irritating niggly menu options - I can see how going from iOS to Android would have a similar impact.
 
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V_R said:
But you cant compare a stock iPhone v's a rooted and custom Android can you? The laymen wont root/Customize their android, they will just use it as it is, hell most probably wont even update it!
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Why because you can't overclock or install heavily tweaked custom roms on iPhones?, I can see why thats not fair.

But the point was it's just a software issue which will get fixed and if the user can follow some easy instructions they can fix it right now. :)
 
Deku said:
Where's the fun in that? I like hearing both sides of the argument.

How boring would it be if we all just gushed together at how amazing our iPhones are.
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I agree, but there is a difference between discussing things and trolling.

Unfortunately, most of the stuff found in this forum is the latter.
 
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