** The AMD Navi Thread **

[LePhuronn]

I wonder what Powercolor have done with that custom PCB? And I wonder if the performance is worth the premium over a reference 5700XT and EK block?

 

[Martini1991]

I wonder what Powercolor have done with that custom PCB? And I wonder if the performance is worth the premium over a reference 5700XT and EK block?

Or you just spend slightly more and get a 2080 super lol.

 

[Gibbo]

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[4K8KW10]

AMD Radeon Pro W5700 With Navi 10 GPU Announced For Workstations – USB Type-C & 9 TFLOPs For $799 US
https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-pro-w5700-7nm-navi-10-workstation-graphics-card-launch/

 

[4K8KW10]

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-5500-graphics-benchmarks-tested-on-par-with-rx-580/

 

[Freddie1980]

Slower and more power hungry then a 1660 despite a new architecture and smaller process.........

 

[Sargatanas2511]

Slower and more power hungry then a 1660 despite a new architecture and smaller process.........

Progress takes time. You can't just pull an architecture that makes monumental jumps every time you're behind. Any progress is good progress and it's in everyone's interest to have at least 2 players in the game.

It'll depend on price and whether drivers can improve things too.

 

[Poneros]

That's a pretty pathetic showing. We can only hope it's because it's the OEM version.

 

[Martini1991]

That's a pretty pathetic showing. We can only hope it's because it's the OEM version.

My own opinion is that AMD have been scared to release the card because it clearly shows the tiers are messed up.

 

[bru]

It shows that this is the lower end of he range, not quite beating a 580.
The 5700 series is quite telling as the midrange cards, pushed quite hard they are performing well. But really it is the next ones the 5800 series that we all want to see.

 

[TNA]

Progress takes time. You can't just pull an architecture that makes monumental jumps every time you're behind. Any progress is good progress and it's in everyone's interest to have at least 2 players in the game.

It'll depend on price and whether drivers can improve things too.

I don't know man. They did it with the Radeon 4870 about 10 years ago when they were being slaughtered by the GTX 8800.

I guess they are just severely out spent on R&D right now and are just way too behind. That was one of the few reasons why I went G-Sync a few years ago as AMD really fell behind when it comes to high end. They can't even keep up when on a better process.

Let's see what RDNA2 brings to the table. Hopefully it is a decent jump in performance, but I am not holding my breath.

 

[Martini1991]

It shows that this is the lower end of he range, not quite beating a 580.
The 5700 series is quite telling as the midrange cards, pushed quite hard they are performing well. But really it is the next ones the 5800 series that we all want to see.

But it's looking like this lower end is going to be priced at Polaris level lol

 

[Sargatanas2511]

I don't know man. They did it with the Radeon 4870 about 10 years ago when they were being slaughtered by the GTX 8800.

I guess they are just severely out spent on R&D right now and are just way too behind. That was one of the few reasons why I went G-Sync a few years ago as AMD really fell behind when it comes to high end. They can't even keep up when on a better process.

Let's see what RDNA2 brings to the table. Hopefully it is a decent jump in performance, but I am not holding my breath.

Oh I am not saying it'll never happen but it's not common.

Also we have no idea where this 5500 fits in the stack and it might even end up being priced as a 1650 competitor. In that space it would be great.

 

[Aretak]

It's by no means impressive, but it is a step forward. It's a large perf/watt increase over Polaris, even if it doesn't catch Nvidia. Pricing is ultimately going to be key. It needs to be up against the 1650 (and the lower end of 1650s at that), not the 1660. Trying to sell RX 580-ish performance for £200+ again would be an absolute joke.

 

[4K8KW10]

Slower and more power hungry then a 1660 despite a new architecture and smaller process.........

That's a pretty pathetic showing. We can only hope it's because it's the OEM version.

If it's like all the previous AMD cards which were heavily overclocked/overvolted out of the box, I would keep some hope that the things are not so dark for them.

 

[HEADRAT]

We've seen AMD comprehensively "wipe the floor" with INTEL with their latest CPUs, just hoping we see them do the same in the GPU space with NVIDIA, it's a tall ask but absolutely vital for competition (pricing)

I feel 2020 is going to be AMDs year, INTEL have no response for their CPU, with SONY and Microsoft both using AMD in their consoles I can only see them going from strength to strength.

I do think AMD might have missed a trick not implementing their "chiplet/infinity fabric" design in the GPU space, maybe that will come in time.

 

[Steampunk]

We've seen AMD comprehensively "wipe the floor" with INTEL with their latest CPUs, just hoping we see them do the same in the GPU space with NVIDIA, it's a tall ask but absolutely vital for competition (pricing)

I feel 2020 is going to be AMDs year, INTEL have no response for their CPU, with SONY and Microsoft both using AMD in their consoles I can only see them going from strength to strength.

I do think AMD might have missed a trick not implementing their "chiplet/infinity fabric" design in the GPU space, maybe that will come in time.

It is bound to. It's the only alternative to ever larger monolithic chips on ever more difficult, smaller processes (often with poor yields) ie make lots of smaller, easier to make chips and have them pretend to be a single chip. We've already seen the new Threadripper be able to have four chiplets (and what looks like expansion space for more), and yet present itself as a single processor.

That approach has to come to GPUs because it's the way forwards, whether you get in there first like AMD, or get dragged kicking and screaming into the same approach at some point in the future. GPU being very parallel are also particularly suited to this kind of approach, with a workload being spread across multiple chips.

AMD had to tackle one thing first, and they went to CPUs, as that's where the big money is for business like data centres, AI learning, etc. They are building a war chest, and I think the next step will be to revise their fundamental approach to building GPUs the same way they have with CPUs. They are probably already doing it now.

 

[Freddie1980]

Coreteks said on a podcast with Good Old Gamer that he received information that AMD wanted to initaily retail the RX5500 at...$249. It was only when board partners refused to produce cards as they feared it would just result in large unsold stockpiles that AMD relented.

 

[HeX]

Coreteks said on a podcast with Good Old Gamer that he received information that AMD wanted to initaily retail the RX5500 at...$249. It was only when board partners refused to produce cards as they feared it would just result in large unsold stockpiles that AMD relented.

Taking that leaked performance is showing the 5500 as pretty much identical performance to a 590 but at half the power, if they try and charge anything over ~£150 for it they're mad.

 

[4K8KW10]

AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT Graphics Card Custom Models Spotted With 6 GB & 8 GB GDDR6 Memory, Tackles The GTX 1660 Series
https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-5600-xt-custom-graphics-cards-6-gb-gddr6-spotted/

• ROG-STRIX-RX5600XT-O8G-GAMING
• ROG-STRIX-RX5600-O8G-GAMING
• TUF 3-RX5600XT-O8G-GAMING
• TUF 3-RX5600-O8G-GAMING
• DUAL-RX5600XT-O8G-EVO
• DUAL-RX5600-O8G-EVO
• RX5600 CLD 6GO
• RX5600 PGD 6GO
• RC5600 PGU 6GO
• RX5600XT CLD 6GO
• RX5600XT PGD 6GO
• RC5600XT PGU 6GO

Chip is unknown. Navi 12?