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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

Martini1991 said:
But why did they have to delay?
AMD would have already been out and ahead.

The 5080 wouldn't have been changing lol
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It could be as simple as the competition has done something unexpected, and they need to see what that looks like so they know how to proceed (in light of the 5080 reviews, maybe they want to know how high they can jack up prices :cry:).

It's absolutely bonkers when you think about it - AMD opted to not compete at the "high end" this generation as they seemingly couldn't keep up with Nvidia on RDNA. But now it looks like an overclocked 7900 XTX with the RT improvements of RDNA 4 plus FSR4 would have been quite competitive...
 
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McPhee said:
It could be as simple as the competition has done something unexpected, and they need to see what that looks like so they know how to proceed (in light of the 5080 reviews, maybe they want to know how high they can jack up prices :cry:).

It's absolutely bonkers when you think about it - AMD opted to not compete at the "high end" this generation as they seemingly couldn't keep up with Nvidia on RDNA. But now it looks like an overclocked 7900 XTX with the RT improvements of RDNA 4 plus FSR4 would have been quite competitive...
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Yeah I imagine it would have faired very well. If you ignore the halo cards of Nvidia which honestly as amazing as they are, they are out of reach for most sane people then it would have been a good proposition.
 
MyBrainz said:
Got to wonder what they need 2 months for.. BIOS updates fit in with this theory. Keep an eye out for any stickers on boxes if they have clock speeds on them :p

I remember my RX 480 having a 4GB sticker covering what said 8GB :D
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Sumanji said:
Here's an extreme (borderline ridiculous) thought. What if AMD are buying time to rebrand their lineup?
  • XT becomes XTX
  • Vanilla 9070 becomes the XT
  • Eventually, 9060 XT becomes the new 9070 vanilla (so it better aligns with the 5070)
This would, of course, involve some mass BIOS flashing, and janky stickers on boxes, but if they really wanted to stick with their target pricing it would be doable.
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RavenXXX2 said:
Software if you believe AMD.
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I'm sure they're using some of the time to improve FSR4, but I suspect it's mostly a panic implementation of multi frame gen... :rolleyes::(
 
McPhee said:
It could be as simple as the competition has done something unexpected, and they need to see what that looks like so they know how to proceed (in light of the 5080 reviews, maybe they want to know how high they can jack up prices :cry:).

It's absolutely bonkers when you think about it - AMD opted to not compete at the "high end" this generation as they seemingly couldn't keep up with Nvidia on RDNA. But now it looks like an overclocked 7900 XTX with the RT improvements of RDNA 4 plus FSR4 would have been quite competitive...
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It's really going to depend what AMD does with the 9070xt and 9070, going by leaked benchmarks it does seem AMD have brought their top tier performance down to the mid tier, the question is will they increase their mid tier pricing to the higher tier. If they don't they win, if they do it's another own goal.

I present to you the AMD marketing team.

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Why does it sometimes feel like the prices of GPU's now are priced like mobile phones? The ultras, upper mids, mids etc.
A 9060 XT might be the GPU version a Pixel 9.

Strange thought I know but it's the feature sets and AI focus too.
 
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Phixsator said:
Nvidia compared it to the 4070 non super. My expectations are around 4070 super performance. Who says you can't release the same card twice? :P AMD has done it before so surely nvidia can aswell.
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Yes, but the traditional "release the same card twice" is usually the exact same card rebranded. This is more like RX 7970 to RX 285 way back when h a lot of effort with nothing to show!
McPhee said:
It could be as simple as the competition has done something unexpected, and they need to see what that looks like so they know how to proceed (in light of the 5080 reviews, maybe they want to know how high they can jack up prices :cry:).

It's absolutely bonkers when you think about it - AMD opted to not compete at the "high end" this generation as they seemingly couldn't keep up with Nvidia on RDNA. But now it looks like an overclocked 7900 XTX with the RT improvements of RDNA 4 plus FSR4 would have been quite competitive...
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I think the rumours are more that a bigger die's sales would have been insufficient to pay the design costs. That does ignore the halo effect which is huge. At least for Nvidia - wines the success of things like 3050, 3060, 4060 etc.

Still Nvidia at 90% does make it hard for others to even bother with many dies.
 
Ok, so what's the current consenus? I'm seeing two competing threads:

1) AMD has, if not exactly 5080 performance, something quite close cooking with 9070xt for a lower price.

2) AMD has done messed things up again with 9070xt only around 4070 ti performance and they will price it at £700
 
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