The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - MODS & TWEAKS

Oh man i just discovered that random vampire attacks kill actual quest NPCs. The Completionist in me is about to lose my mind.
 
KingDazza said:
Yep did all the latest tips and tricks at the time including LOOT etc. Like I say none of the mods were scripted anyway and also why 80 to 90 hours before issues arose... strange but it was a deal breaker for me at the time.
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Well you're just going to have to try and track it down aren't you, theres no simple magic wand you can wave here to try and make it better. Most of us have had these problems at some point or other and have to turn detective to try and track it down, remove one mod at a time, check it, does it crash? No? Try another, etc, etc. Its a pain but once you get it sorted leave it alone and you should enjoy many trouble free hours.

The bottom line is, if you have No Mods At All, completely vanilla game clean install, deleted absolutely everything from Steam and both it's .ini files, redownload again started a Brand New Game from scratch does it still crash then? Because if not your problem is somewhere in either

a) the mods you've installed
b) the graphical enhancements (ENB's, if present)
c) the savegame has a problem, unattached instances, orphaned scripts, in which case you'll have to try a savegame script cleaner.

If its STILL crashing when EVERYTHING is vanilla you have problem with your computer, checked all the drivers? Hardware? Done a stress test on the graphics card? Memory?

Like I say there no magic wand to wave here just some good old fashioned detective work. :o
 
KingDazza said:
I had an issue when I last heavily played Skyrim last year, I would be grateful for feedback on.

Every time I played Skyrim, starting a fresh with a new character, I found it would be 100% stable until about 80 to 90 hours in, where by it would start crashing every hour or two. The crashes could be anywhere outside, just wondering around Skyrim. I re-rolled 3 times and each time I'd get 80 to 90 hours in and stability would suddenly become an issue.

Yes my skyrim was graphically modded but done correctly with sorted load orders etc and none of them were scripted. I also played with the unofficial patches, official patches and all dlc.

I'd like to return to Skyrim but not if its going to always become unstable, just when my toon just starts to get into the higher levels. .
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The SKSE memory patch sorted that out for me.
 
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http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/61995/?
 
Even with MO organiser's abilities it is not magic and cannot remove all the guff that some mods put in save games.

SKSE memory patch will help prevent crashes due to the game being rubbish at allocating more than 256MB of ram but allocating 512MB to the first block.
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Well you're just going to have to try and track it down aren't you, theres no simple magic wand you can wave here to try and make it better. Most of us have had these problems at some point or other and have to turn detective to try and track it down, remove one mod at a time, check it, does it crash? No? Try another, etc, etc. Its a pain but once you get it sorted leave it alone and you should enjoy many trouble free hours.

The bottom line is, if you have No Mods At All, completely vanilla game clean install, deleted absolutely everything from Steam and both it's .ini files, redownload again started a Brand New Game from scratch does it still crash then? Because if not your problem is somewhere in either

a) the mods you've installed
b) the graphical enhancements (ENB's, if present)
c) the savegame has a problem, unattached instances, orphaned scripts, in which case you'll have to try a savegame script cleaner.

If its STILL crashing when EVERYTHING is vanilla you have problem with your computer, checked all the drivers? Hardware? Done a stress test on the graphics card? Memory?

Like I say there no magic wand to wave here just some good old fashioned detective work. :o
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I appreciate your input - but I know that :) What I was trying to establish was if playing vanilla would avoid my type of issue and if so it mean't that it was mod related. So if for example someone said hey I'm on Windows 7 64bit and have played a toon for 200 hours vanilla with no issues of stability then it would have given me motivation in a certain direction.

As for removing mods, you cant do that even with non scripted esp's and be 100% sure as they still impregnate saves, so as the issue only ever raised its ugly head after 80 to 90 hours I was trying to save some huge chunks of time with other user feedback. But anyway thanks for your input :)

And thanks to Devious, but alas I'd already tried that.

Anyway I'm now re-rolling on a completely fresh install, no USKP's, no bsa's or esp's, but with some easily removable non-save dependant textures and I'll see how I get on. Also no SKSE either. 7 hours in and no problems, but then I really wont know for many, many days to come....

Cheers all :)
 
I sooo. thought it was the SKSE memory fix.

I was plagued with exactly the same issue and had given up my games until that was released
Maybe re-check the SKSE is all installed properly.

It cant be a mod issue as we all would have that issue (which we did until the SKSE mem fix)

Its either a hardware (mem lack of) issue or a very specific mod we are not using.


But I cant think of mods which would cause problems afters 80 hours?

Honestly since the SKSE mem patch I have installed mods without as much thought as I did before (always made a save though) whereas before I was always weary of the crash.
 
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wunkley said:
I'm trying this today/ right now! Have to say, it's really nice.

I had to run 'Ordenador texture optimiser' though as my 780Ti's were being pushed to their 3GB memory limit with this. Since running that and a few other tweaks I seem to have as good if not better performance than what I was using before.
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What do we install, first the FULL and then install the optional 4k textures?
 
Devious said:
I sooo. thought it was the SKSE memory fix.

Its either a hardware (mem lack of) issue or a very specific mod we are not using.

But I cant think of mods which would cause problems afters 80 hours?
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Its not hardware, 16GB RAM, GTX780 back then and now SLI 980's. Besides it would have shown issue far earlier on.

I believe its something to do with the save file and/or connected with late game progression when many more cells are populated and in need of cleaning. Possibly of course ;)
There are some who believe that when you get further on and the save file goes beyond a certain size (not talking about extreme bloat here) that the game can be more prone to falling over.

I'll see how I get on, but if it happens again this time I know its just the game and some combination of how I've been playing it. If not then it was mod related.

I've got some tricks up my sleeve either way this time if it happens that I will be trying, involving cell cleaning/resetting, possessive corpses and possibly even save cleaning as a very last resort. However I'm hopeful that it was simply mod related and the fact I'm not using any now will be the fix itself.

I'll update in a few weeks time when I get that far. :)
 
Terribly terribly bored of doing the 125 Thieves Guild Quests. It'd be far better if you could do 5 at a time ather than doing 2, returning, hadning in, going back, doing 2 more...
 
KingDazza said:
Its not hardware, 16GB RAM, GTX780 back then and now SLI 980's. Besides it would have shown issue far earlier on.

I believe its something to do with the save file and/or connected with late game progression when many more cells are populated and in need of cleaning. Possibly of course ;)
There are some who believe that when you get further on and the save file goes beyond a certain size (not talking about extreme bloat here) that the game can be more prone to falling over.

I'll see how I get on, but if it happens again this time I know its just the game and some combination of how I've been playing it. If not then it was mod related.

I've got some tricks up my sleeve either way this time if it happens that I will be trying, involving cell cleaning/resetting, possessive corpses and possibly even save cleaning as a very last resort. However I'm hopeful that it was simply mod related and the fact I'm not using any now will be the fix itself.

I'll update in a few weeks time when I get that far. :)
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I went through all that save cleaning malarkey when I was about 100 hours in and it didn't work as my saves wern't really the problem (not bloated). I had given up on the game just as the skse memory patch was released. I'm now carried on approaching the 250 hour mark with no crash to desktop or corrupted saves.

Can you recheck that skse + the memory patch is installed correctly? Others have stated that additional fixes like the double cursor fix have interfered with skse working correctly.
 
Devious said:
I went through all that save cleaning malarkey when I was about 100 hours in and it didn't work as my saves wern't really the problem (not bloated). I had given up on the game just as the skse memory patch was released. I'm now carried on approaching the 250 hour mark with no crash to desktop or corrupted saves.

Can you recheck that skse + the memory patch is installed correctly? Others have stated that additional fixes like the double cursor fix have interfered with skse working correctly.
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Hi & thanks, but like I say I'm not using it this time around so there is nothing to check. I can assure you that when I had these problems before I was using skse correctly with the memory fix correctly enabled. I never used double cursor fix either.

However its great to hear you've done so many hours without issue, which leads me to think my problems previously must have been mod related as the skse fix still didn't stop it despite running it from the start. So it must be a mod I would have thought. I'll let you know how I get on with this vanilla play through. Tbh I'm loving it with just the texture mods only anyway. Once and if it starts happening I'll be sure to ask more advice at that point. :)

EDIT: I'll run with SSME as it implements memory fix without the need for skse. Thanks for thoughts, its pushed me in a prevention rather than cure direction. Cheers.
 
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BubbySoup said:
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/61995/

Massive graphics overhaul of almost every area in Skyrim. Be warned, files are large especially if you want the one with some 4k textures in. Parallax effect patch as well.

Try running the 4k textures, JK's town expansions and an enb - made my PC cry :D
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Posted just above fella. That said, it is very nice and worth a go. I for one daren't even try the 4k textures with 3GB vram, not really necessary any way I don't think . I'm using the 2k ones and ran 'Ordenator texture optimiser' as mentioned above as without doing that I was exceeding vram with this.
 
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