Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (May Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 522 41.6%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 733 58.4%
  • Total voters
    1,255
  • Poll closed .
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scorza said:
When the British Army is transferred to the EU Army (any honest person knows this day is coming) then we won't be able to. It'll be up to Jean-Claude Juncker's successor to decide if the Falklands are worth re-capturing, or if an intervention in Sierra Leone is viable.
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This scaremongering nonsense again.

Do you really think any British Prime Minister is going to sign over control of the UK armed forces to the EU? The idea is utterly ridiculous.

I expect we will co-operate further with the other EU nations on defence, quite possibly we'll contribute some small part of our forces to a "European army" - doing so makes a lot of sense when so much of our military action is co-ordinated with our EU allies - but the idea that we would place our entire forces under EU control? It's just scaremongering gibberish.
 
scorza said:
When the British Army is transferred to the EU Army (any honest person knows this day is coming) then we won't be able to. It'll be up to Jean-Claude Juncker's successor to decide if the Falklands are worth re-capturing, or if an intervention in Sierra Leone is viable.
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And that successor could easily be a Brit while UK is in EU. Rather than running away like a kid that throws his toys out of the pram the country should focus on getting proper people elected into European parliament. Unfortunately people voted in bunch of people that aren't interested at all to represent UK interests in the EU. Though I'm sure they vere happy to collect money for job they're not doing.
 
Mr Jack said:
If we weren't sovereign, we couldn't leave the EU.
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I disagree.

Article 50 is a framework by which a country can legally exit the EU, for good.

Until we invoke that the Supremacy of European Law applies and decisions of the ECJ will continue to bind our courts.
 
Mr Jack said:
This scaremongering nonsense again.

Do you really think any British Prime Minister is going to sign over control of the UK armed forces to the EU? The idea is utterly ridiculous.

I expect we will co-operate further with the other EU nations on defence, quite possibly we'll contribute some small part of our forces to a "European army" - doing so makes a lot of sense when so much of our military action is co-ordinated with our EU allies - but the idea that we would place our entire forces under EU control? It's just scaremongering gibberish.
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Would you have thought that a British Prime Minister would have given up a huge chunk of the rebate for nothing? Yet that's what happened. I bet the French are still laughing at us for that one (we told them we'd reform the CAP - hahaha!). What happens if there's a miracle between now and 2020 and Corbyn becomes PM - I can easily imagine him giving away control of the British Armed Forces.

I remember ages ago telling people that the EU would have its own foreign policy, people said it was just scare mongering yet now they have their own foreign minister (a pro-Putin, pro-Iranian Italian Socialist).

bayo000 said:
And that successor could easily be a Brit while UK is in EU. Rather than running away like a kid that throws his toys out of the pram the country should focus on getting proper people elected into European parliament. Unfortunately people voted in bunch of people that aren't interested at all to represent UK interests in the EU. Though I'm sure they vere happy to collect money for job they're not doing.
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There will never be a Brit in charge of the EU - the other nations just wouldn't accept it. Due to the way the European Parliament is elected, British voters have a very diminished voice there.
 
Mr Jack said:
This scaremongering nonsense again.

Do you really think any British Prime Minister is going to sign over control of the UK armed forces to the EU? The idea is utterly ridiculous.

I expect we will co-operate further with the other EU nations on defence, quite possibly we'll contribute some small part of our forces to a "European army" - doing so makes a lot of sense when so much of our military action is co-ordinated with our EU allies - but the idea that we would place our entire forces under EU control? It's just scaremongering gibberish.
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And if you disagree with the Military action that has taken place by an EU army, who do you not vote for in the next election?
 
Mr Jack said:
This scaremongering nonsense again.

Do you really think any British Prime Minister is going to sign over control of the UK armed forces to the EU? The idea is utterly ridiculous.

I expect we will co-operate further with the other EU nations on defence, quite possibly we'll contribute some small part of our forces to a "European army" - doing so makes a lot of sense when so much of our military action is co-ordinated with our EU allies - but the idea that we would place our entire forces under EU control? It's just scaremongering gibberish.
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A government getting into bed with the Chinese and allowing them major input into the hardware and software to run an upgraded Hinkley Point nuclear power station could very easily also sign over control of our armed forces to the EU. Hell, there's not much left that hasn't be sold or signed over to foreigners :)

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/21/nuclear-power-deal-china-uk
 
bayo000 said:
And that successor could easily be a Brit while UK is in EU. Rather than running away like a kid that throws his toys out of the pram the country should focus on getting proper people elected into European parliament. Unfortunately people voted in bunch of people that aren't interested at all to represent UK interests in the EU. Though I'm sure they vere happy to collect money for job they're not doing.
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It will never be a Brit, and throwing toys out of the pram? You mean leaving a group of mates you've just realised ain't going anywhere and dragging you down.

It's ****ed and even the remain side are saying it, but still clinging to the "needs reform" line but it's never gonna happen.
 
Mulder said:
I disagree.

Article 50 is a framework by which a country can legally exit the EU, for good.

Until we invoke that the Supremacy of European Law applies and decisions of the ECJ will continue to bind our courts.
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Well we can't be sovereign even if we leave the EU then... International law trumps even European law. Unless of course we become something like North Korea and remove ourselves from all international treaties.
 
John40 said:
Yes it would be but do you really think Remainers care, if they did they wouldn't be happy to let us be totally absorbed into a Superstate and eventually lose all identity as a nation.
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No, I don't think they do care. They all appear to hapless morons who have no idea what's going on outside their sad little lives.
 
kitkat2015 said:
No, I don't think they do care. They all appear to hapless morons who have no idea what's going on outside their sad little lives.
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Somebody on here was trying to say you could be patriotic and still want to Remain.
Difficult to be patriotic when the place that was once an Independent self governing country has become a parish council of the EU.
As their posts continually show the Remainers see patriotism as unclean, outdated and ultimately racist.
If you're a patriot you have to be a member of the BNP/EDL as according to the Remainers you're extreme right wing and very very dangerous.
 
kitkat2015 said:
A vote to remain would be an insult to every person in these photographs.....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ance-faces-World-War-soldiers-eve-battle.html
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A vote to remain would be an insult to every person in this tapestry. Especially the guy with the arrow in his head. He died for us.

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Seriously, how is a vote to remain an insult to people who fought in a war 100 years ago? How is it any different to people who fought 1000 years ago?
The world changes. People change. The geo-political landscape of 1914 and the war that was fought because of it surely has no relevance to this debate.
 
Rilot said:
A vote to remain would be an insult to every person in this tapestry. Especially the guy with the arrow in his head. He died for us.

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Seriously, how is a vote to remain an insult to people who fought in a war 100 years ago? How is it any different to people who fought 1000 years ago?
The world changes. People change. The geo-political landscape of 1914 and the war that was fought because of it surely has no relevance to this debate.
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Because those people fought to stop the germans ruling over europe as they did in WW2 & now the remain voters want to just give it to the germans on a plate.

Can you not see that. How much more does it need spelling out to you?

A vote to remain is a vote to ring the death bell for the UK.
 
At the start of this process we had Farage and Brexit talking about a whole host of issues from NHS and housing strain, the fishing industry the loss of democratic control, waste, TTIP and on and on.

Boris seems to have dumbed down the argument into something far more woolly and unclear. I honestly think he is the worst thing that could have happened to Brexit.

Brexit need to start talking in clear detail about EU policy or they will have no chance.
 
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