Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (May Poll)

[G-MAN2004]

It pains me to know people like this will be voting. This app is full of utterly clueless crap like this, all from liberal students. Unfortunately the majority seem to lap it up, all shouting to vote remain. Ugh...

 

[grahamjenks]

It pains me to know people like this will be voting. This app is full of utterly clueless crap like this, all from liberal students. Unfortunately the majority seem to lap it up, all shouting to vote remain. Ugh...

The fact those people are voting is democracy surely, one of things lots of brexiters claim is something to EU lacks!

 

[Narj]

It pains me to know people like this will be voting. This app is full of utterly clueless crap like this, all from liberal students. Unfortunately the majority seem to lap it up, all shouting to vote remain. Ugh...

The myth that Brexit is a far right idea really annoys me. The left should be more up in arms about the lack of transparency, democracy and the impact on the poorest in society from unfettered immigration than anyone else when it comes to the EU. I'm baffled.

We all know what Jeremy Corbyn really thinks.

 

[Locky]

I had to turn that debate off in fear of throwing something at the TV. The biased towards the remain was clear..

 

[Third Opinion]

I had to turn that debate off in fear of throwing something at the TV. The biased towards the remain was clear..

I was at work so missed it.

What was the reasoning for the 18-29 age group audience?

Polls already show that under 30's are generally in favour of remain. I am not complaining about that but if the polls are right the argument wasn't going to be be balanced.

Considering the EU vote will be everyone of voting age why was the audience selected by age?

 

[itchy]

This debate is truly awful.

I lasted 25 minutes and felt physically sick.

Typical setup if I have ever seen one, they had every person from all over the planet in the audience. Never seen anything like it.

Full of phone zombies and retards, you can see them a mile off with their glossy eyes and fashion glasses.

You have to be a mental case to vote in, no doubt about it.

By the way the pro EU crowd, the is word that 100,000,000 from Africa are heading to Europe this summer.

What you going to do about that, if you IN the EU?????

 

[Efour]

Jesus itchy are you one of them? i know it was 2 am but lol

 

[Amp34]

Quote from article........

"In all these cases, it has been confirmed that the postal vote counting started on Sunday without witnesses and in contradiction to the official rules."

Yet they aren't investigating due to fraud, rather irregularities in the counting.

Everyone I know are voting out, the is no one I have spoke to voting in.

We've already been through this. It's called who you socialise with.

 

[Amp34]

Look at the list, countries with high GDP are almost entirely those with high quality of life.

What do you think finds welfare and all the other expenditures for almost half the population, who pay less tax than they receive.

Also why assume we have poor quality of life, uk is ranked 14th.

There is another Index run by the UN called the Happiness index. It's far more complex than GDP which is probably one of the reasons why it's not used by governments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

GDP is easily manipulated by increased population and eats to unsustainable government policies and consumer lifestyles.

The point of the happiness report is to show you don't need to have a huge house and the latest gadgets to be happy. GDP and money can help, but they certainly aren't the be all and end all.

We need to be moving away from GDP as a measure of growth and successful countries, more towards quality of life and "happiness"

Other options include

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where-to-be-born_Index
http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org

All show that GDP is not the most important factor in having an enjoyable life, which to me is the most important factor. I'd rather live a happy 30 years than a depressing 70 for example.

 

[Amp34]

I had high hopes when Boris came out for Leave, as he seemed to be someone who could speak to a wide range of the electorate. Now, I'm not so sure - I'm fighting a gut feeling he's a bit of an oaf and an oaf with an ulterior motive at that.

Not sure how much of that view is being coloured by the lacklustre, verging on ****-poor, performance of Vote Leave, who I think are far too close to the Tories - the whole thing is beginning to stink of a Tory stitch-up. Personally, I think GO would have put up a more combative performance if they'd got the nomination. I've had three bits of pro-EU propaganda through the door - including Dave's £9m offering, which ended up with a rather obscene Anglo-Saxon phrase scrawled across it and then got posted back - but not a single one from Vote Leave.

Happy to be proved wrong, but I think the government's endless ramping-up of the fear factor will win the day, although in some quarters they're in danger of overplaying that particular hand. People I speak to are saying it comes across like people in high places with the same vested interest all doing favours for each other.

I read an interesting opinion piece this morning.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/26/eu-debate-enlightenment-historians

What, no facts in the EU debate? You cannot be serious

If there is one thing that Britain’s European Union debate has plenty of, it is facts. Hardly a day passes without a weighty, for the most part decently researched, report from a generally reliable source crammed with facts about the impact of a possible Brexit on everything from migration to the price of milk.

Yet it has become one of the laziest of lazy populist tropes of the Europe campaign that the debate somehow lacks facts. To which the only reply is surely the one coined on Wimbledon’s centre court, long ago, by John McEnroe. You cannot be serious. The facts are out there. The issue is whether people want them.

The final month of Britain’s European argument is being played out in terms that have become familiar. On the one hand, there is an anxious and tired political establishment that is very far from perfect in many ways, rarely of one mind about everything, well aware of the EU’s many defects, but which nevertheless remains rooted in the common view that policy must be constructed within a framework of facts, truth and rational calculation.

Ranged against them are those who cast themselves as the enemies of this establishment and the world over which it presides. They are the angry, the disillusioned and the aggrieved. In the United States, these voters are Donald Trump supporters. In Austria they voted for Norbert Hofer. In Britain, they are led by Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage, their arguments rocket fuelled by the anti-European rightwing press, all channelled through the individualist echo chamber of social media.

These leaders (and their leftwing counterparts) have very different long-term goals – Johnson wants to be prime minister, Farage wants to split the Tory party, the Daily Mail wants to intimidate politicians. But their business is revolt, not reason. Increasingly in this referendum, especially as remain appears to edge ahead, they seem to be more concerned with ploughing up the pitch than with winning the contest. *continued*

The latter part of the quote also has a depressingly loud resonance. It just seems to be a power struggle, not two groups truly trying to argue one way is the best for the British people.

 

[Amp34]

We wouldn't be cutting the supply from the EU though, we'd just be able to accept more people from other countries outside of the EU because we'd have less total immigration

So more people from India and Pakistan for example (which many people complain about)? I'm not sure you'd get many Aussie doctors (to use the example above your post) as only someone really desperate to sample British life would want to take a pay cut and work longer hours.

It's the same issue with many other professions. The UK just doesn't pay enough compared to most other english speaking nations, meaning immigrants filling the jobs will be coming from poorer countries, quite possibly with english as a second language.

 

[Amp34]

I lasted 25 minutes and felt physically sick.

Typical setup if I have ever seen one, they had every person from all over the planet in the audience. Never seen anything like it.

Full of phone zombies and retards, you can see them a mile off with their glossy eyes and fashion glasses.

You have to be a mental case to vote in, no doubt about it.

By the way the pro EU crowd, the is word that 100,000,000 from Africa are heading to Europe this summer.

What you going to do about that, if you IN the EU?????

1/10th of the African population? There are going to be some empty towns and cities in Africa next year. I wouldn't be going near north Africa as a holiday destination either, you'll never find a hotel room.

Either way it's irrelevant to our situation. We have the English channel and are not in the Schengen area so even if they manage to hire enough boats to get across the med the continent will have to deal with 100 million more residents, not us.

EDIT: Multi combo! Guess that's what you get being in a different time zone!

 

[bayo000]

I lasted 25 minutes and felt physically sick.

Typical setup if I have ever seen one, they had every person from all over the planet in the audience. Never seen anything like it.

Full of phone zombies and retards, you can see them a mile off with their glossy eyes and fashion glasses.

You have to be a mental case to vote in, no doubt about it.

By the way the pro EU crowd, the is word that 100,000,000 from Africa are heading to Europe this summer.

What you going to do about that, if you IN the EU?????

Hope you stocked up on your tin foils hats cos they'll be 3000000000 times more expensive if you get your way.

You do realise no matter what the result is. YOU will still be in the EU this summer. Most importantly still be part of Europe as a continent and refuges will still want to come to UK.

 

[izzop]

Did wonder how long it was going to be before the pension card was played.

Personally thought it would have been played a little later.

 

[John40]

Operation Black Vote under investigation by the Charity Commission after calling itself a charity when it isn't registered as one.
Surprise surprise It was handed 28 grand last year by Jeremy (Sir Cover Up) Heywood which is also under investigation.

 

[Chris Wilson]

Britain to send another ship to "deter" people smugglers in the Mediterranean. That'll be a few thousand more illegal migrants ferried safely into Europe at the taxpayers expense then..... Perhaps they should just send a few cruise liners for them to come over in comfort.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ed-libya-anti-smuggling-mission-migrants-arms

 

[Metallifux]

Did wonder how long it was going to be before the pension card was played.

Personally thought it would have been played a little later.

Gideon seems to have forgotten about the governments own pensions "Triple Lock".

 

[platypus]

By the way the pro EU crowd, the is word that 100,000,000 from Africa are heading to Europe this summer.

What you going to do about that, if you IN the EU?????

Who's word? Your mates down the pub?

You are a total nut case.

 

[izzop]

Gideon seems to have forgotten about the governments own pensions "Triple Lock".

Surprising how much they do forget when it suits.

 

[izzop]

Britain to send another ship to "deter" people smugglers in the Mediterranean. That'll be a few thousand more illegal migrants ferried safely into Europe at the taxpayers expense then..... Perhaps they should just send a few cruise liners for them to come over in comfort.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ed-libya-anti-smuggling-mission-migrants-arms

It's merely a token gesture and certainly isn't going to achieve as much as they would like people to believe.

But at least it shows we're all in this together!