The first "proper" Kepler news Fri 17th Feb?

Gregster · 20 Mar 2012 at 17:38

spankingtexan said:
So things are now drawing to a close, GK104 is nvidias top end card, anyone expecting second gen Keplers this year are gonna have a long wait cause there isn't gonna be one according to Gibbo.

It's faster than a 7970 at stock and overclocks just as well as 7970's supposedly.

It's appaently going to be cheaper than ati's top end offering, runs cooler with less power and noise. This card sounds like a winner to me but the big question is will anyone with 7970's actually sell up to get a 680?

If they do sell up for a 680, do you think they will admit it?

Biffa · 20 Mar 2012 at 17:39

I'd say not unless there was a specific title that they needed to play.

cainer · 20 Mar 2012 at 17:41

spankingtexan said:
This card sounds like a winner to me but the big question is will anyone with 7970's actually sell up to get a 680?

i doubt anyone would want to take the price hit now the 7970 can be had for 360 delivered, that must make 2nd hand value ~320 atm?

windheaven · 20 Mar 2012 at 17:42

spankingtexan said:
So things are now drawing to a close, GK104 is nvidias top end card, anyone expecting second gen Keplers this year are gonna have a long wait cause there isn't gonna be one according to Gibbo.

It's faster than a 7970 at stock and overclocks just as well as 7970's supposedly.

It's appaently going to be cheaper than ati's top end offering, runs cooler with less power and noise. This card sounds like a winner to me but the big question is will anyone with 7970's actually sell up to get a 680?

funny thing is i'm starting to see more people auction off their 7900 cards on ebay.. and people are actually bidding on them....

gazzaa · 20 Mar 2012 at 17:43

spankingtexan said:
So things are now drawing to a close, GK104 is nvidias top end card, anyone expecting second gen Keplers this year are gonna have a long wait cause there isn't gonna be one according to Gibbo.

It's faster than a 7970 at stock and overclocks just as well as 7970's supposedly.

It's appaently going to be cheaper than ati's top end offering, runs cooler with less power and noise. This card sounds like a winner to me but the big question is will anyone with 7970's actually sell up to get a 680?

im gunna wait and see what yours runs like first.

chipachap · 20 Mar 2012 at 17:43

I might, it depends on how much I could sell the 7970's for!

They run at stock but both go to 1200/1600 for 3dmark11/bf3/heaven, so if I sold them and got 2 bad 680 clockers I wouldn't be impressed!

xsistor · 20 Mar 2012 at 17:44

spankingtexan said:
So things are now drawing to a close, GK104 is nvidias top end card, anyone expecting second gen Keplers this year are gonna have a long wait cause there isn't gonna be one according to Gibbo.

It's faster than a 7970 at stock and overclocks just as well as 7970's supposedly.

It's appaently going to be cheaper than ati's top end offering, runs cooler with less power and noise. This card sounds like a winner to me but the big question is will anyone with 7970's actually sell up to get a 680?

No, nobody's going to be able to justify selling up a 7970 for a 680 unless they wanted some very specific NVIDIA exclusive feature. If the 680 does come out for sub £400 though, the 7970 will drop a lot in price and some people may wish they had waited the two months. Especially if they'd been the ones that paid circa £500 for the 7970s off better partners.

psychodil · 20 Mar 2012 at 17:46

I cant really see people selling 7970s to buy 680's. If the toms benches are correct the 680 is 18% faster at stock. Which is not a massive jump at 1080p. Its better yes but not a big enough upgrade to make people upgrade from a 7970.

I suspect the difference will become slightly smaller at higher res and i cant see the 680 overclocking as well in terms of percentage increase. Would be fantastic if it did though :-)

rare · 20 Mar 2012 at 17:54

Why would anyone sell a 7970 and buy a card that in a lot of instances hardly surpasses it? Doesn't seem logical to me.

Its an interesting card for sure though but hardly warrants an upgrade from a 7970.

ALXAndy · 20 Mar 2012 at 17:57

xsistor said:
No, nobody's going to be able to justify selling up a 7970 for a 680 unless they wanted some very specific NVIDIA exclusive feature. If the 680 does come out for sub £400 though, the 7970 will drop a lot in price and some people may wish they had waited the two months. Especially if they'd been the ones that paid circa £500 for the 7970s off better partners.

Two months is a long time to go without if you NEED a card. A very long time.

It's 1/6th of a year, and I can't see my zombie splatting pals willing to wait for me for two months whilst I wait to buy a GPU.

However, as we know there is a world of difference between needs and wants.

I made my choice which at the time was the best one (imagine how I'd feel now having wasted £430 on a 580 !) and thus there is no point in worrying about the past. It's said and done, I have a GPU that takes care of everything I need it to.

I guess more importantly I am satisfied. It's those who are never satisfied that are going to pay the price for their habits now.

xsistor · 20 Mar 2012 at 18:00

If you NEED a card, then yeah. It may make more sense than buying something inbetween. But for those just looking to upgrade to scratch an itch, the price drop of £100-£150 will hurt if the kepler comes in at sub £400

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 20 Mar 2012 at 18:02

Righty Ho!! So what about the GTX670 and GTX660?? We need those cards to push down prices a bit for the rest of us mere mortals!!

Gregster · 20 Mar 2012 at 18:07

So....Who is getting one on launch day?

I am deffo in for thursday afternoon shopping on Overclockers

xsistor · 20 Mar 2012 at 18:09

gregster said:
So....Who is getting one on launch day?

I am deffo in for thursday afternoon shopping on Overclockers

Should be a nice big boost over 560Ti for sure

Gregster · 20 Mar 2012 at 18:11

xsistor said:
Should be a nice big boost over 560Ti for sure

Yep and all I play at the mo is BF3, so will be a needed boost also (and nice to be able to turn everything on).

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 20 Mar 2012 at 18:11

gregster said:
So....Who is getting one on launch day?

I am deffo in for thursday afternoon shopping on Overclockers

Why don't you just get another GTX560TI??

Bobisuruncle54 · 20 Mar 2012 at 18:12

Marine-RX179 said:
You are missing the point.

This "GTX680" we see now was supposed to be a GTX660 which would probably be at around £200~£250 price range, which is 2nd most popular "sweet spot" for most people after the "£150~£200" price range. Now with the price tag of £400+ for this card, it instantly become out of range for lots of people (if not most people).

I think the distinction to make is why this is happening, to me there are two possibilities:

1) Nvidia cannot make a better card due to the manufacturing process. Anything larger cannot be produced profitably so they are forced to produce a smaller GPU. It would also have to mean that this smaller GPU is still costly to manufacture resulting in a higher price.

2) Nvidia has a much larger chip ready to go, but sees that its smaller GPU can rival AMDs single GPU flagship. As a result, it sees no need to release the larger GPU until AMD brings out a faster one, and charges according to the market prices AMD has set with the 7000 series.

dave_beast · 20 Mar 2012 at 18:13

Does anyone know what clock speeds the GTX680 was in the Toms Hardware review?

Jakus · 20 Mar 2012 at 18:14

gregster said:
So....Who is getting one on launch day?

I am deffo in for thursday afternoon shopping on Overclockers

Enjoy,

You would be advised to wait until next week unless they have a £399 or less price tag though, I think there will be plenty around

thezakarum · 20 Mar 2012 at 18:15

Bobisuruncle54 said:
I think the distinction to make is why this is happening, to me there are two possibilities:

1) Nvidia cannot make a better card due to the manufacturing process. Anything larger cannot be produced profitably so they are forced to produce a smaller GPU. It would also have to mean that this smaller GPU is still costly to manufacture resulting in a higher price.

2) Nvidia has a much larger chip ready to go, but sees that its smaller GPU can rival AMDs single GPU flagship. As a result, it sees no need to release the larger GPU until AMD brings out a faster one, and charges according to the market prices AMD has set with the 7000 series.

Gibbos already said that the GK110 won't be coming out this year.

The only higher end cards coming this year is likely the duel GK104 card, or GTX690.