*** The iPhone 3G Thread ***

MacRumors said:
RoughlyDrafted reports on details of the iPhone 2.0.2 firmware 3G connectivity improvements. According to a "source close to AT&T," the connectivity issues have been caused by iPhones demanding that cell towers devote more power than necessary to their connections. When a "critical mass" of iPhones, all demanding excessive amounts of power, are connected to a cell tower, the transmitter runs out of power and begins dropping calls and degrading data delivery. The 2.0.2 firmware update is said to address this issue via modifications to the power control algorithm.

The source also clarifies that iPhones running 2.0 and 2.0.1 firmware are continuing to cause problems for all users, which explains why many users have reported that connection issues persisted after they updated their iPhones. This also explains the advertising push for the 2.0.2 update seen with Apple adding a banner ad to the iPhone App Store and AT&T sending text messages to users encouraging them to update their iPhones.

This is one of the reasons why AT&T has been sending text messages to users to persuade them to upgrade to the 2.0.2 software. In a mixed environment where users are running 2.0, 2.0.1, and 2.0.2, the power control problems of 2.0 and 2.0.1 will affect the 2.0.2 users.

“It is not the network that is fault but the interaction of the bad power control algorithm in 2.0 and 2.0.1 software and the network that is at fault. The sooner everybody is running 2.0.2 software the better things will be. Having seen the graphs the 2.0.2 software has already started to make difference.”

Apple is due to release a software update for the iPhone in September, but it is not known whether it will include changes to further address the connectivity issues.
 
Is the iPhone worth about £440, to use on any plan?

It depends what you use it for.

You can look at it as an expensive device but justifying it to myself, I see it as an exceptional phone with an iPod built in. Not to mention the browser which is unlike anything I've used on a phone personally or the interface which is amazing.

I haven't yet made the purchase but I will be when it goes Pay As You Go. Despite missing some bits and pieces, it makes complete sense.
 
It depends what you use it for.

You can look at it as an expensive device but justifying it to myself, I see it as an exceptional phone with an iPod built in. Not to mention the browser which is unlike anything I've used on a phone personally or the interface which is amazing.

I haven't yet made the purchase but I will be when it goes Pay As You Go. Despite missing some bits and pieces, it makes complete sense.

Yeah, id use it as an iPod too. And could sell either an HTC Touch Dual, or a HTC Kaiser to help fund. I can get it completely unlocked direct from NZ...hmmm.

Or do i get the old one?
 
How can I go about connecting my iPhone to my car stereo? My car stereo has a built in mp3 plug but I cant seem to find the cable I would need? Any help?
 
Just picked up my second handset as my first managed to get dust under the screen within 24 hours of turning it on, and now this one has a chewed up metal bezel. Pathetic quality control.

The guy in the O2 shop made it clear that if I replace my original handset due to dust problems, that if there is a problem with the second one it has to go for repair, even if it's within their 14 day period which it still is as I only got it on Tuesday.

Going to pop to the Apple store later, see if they can do anything, if not, I'll just cancel the contract I guess.
 
Just picked up my second handset as my first managed to get dust under the screen within 24 hours of turning it on, and now this one has a chewed up metal bezel. Pathetic quality control.

The guy in the O2 shop made it clear that if I replace my original handset due to dust problems, that if there is a problem with the second one it has to go for repair, even if it's within their 14 day period which it still is as I only got it on Tuesday.

Going to pop to the Apple store later, see if they can do anything, if not, I'll just cancel the contract I guess.

I expect that is probably a flagarant abuse of the sales of goods act so I would press them on that, goods have to be in a servicable condition and fit for purpose or you are to be offered a repair, replacement or refund within a reasonable period of time.

Just because you have had one fault sorted does not mean your warranty is in any way diminished on its replacement, thats just nonsense.
 
How can I go about connecting my iPhone to my car stereo? My car stereo has a built in mp3 plug but I cant seem to find the cable I would need? Any help?

you'll need a 3.5 to 3.5 male to male lead, like this
3-5mm_mtomcable.jpg


freely available from your local hardware stores.
 
Just picked up my second handset as my first managed to get dust under the screen within 24 hours of turning it on, and now this one has a chewed up metal bezel. Pathetic quality control.

The guy in the O2 shop made it clear that if I replace my original handset due to dust problems, that if there is a problem with the second one it has to go for repair, even if it's within their 14 day period which it still is as I only got it on Tuesday.

Going to pop to the Apple store later, see if they can do anything, if not, I'll just cancel the contract I guess.

Ring 02.

I'm on my fourth iPhone 3G now because of various issues (quality) and found my local store to be downright ignorant when it comes to help.

Went in there today actually, because the glass was raised up high on one side and eventually was letting dust in. The manager said there was nothing he could do as I hadn't purchased it there (well, I bought the original there, but he seemed to think that it stood for nothing :rolleyes: ).

I asked them to call 02 and they arranged a replacement to be sent, no questions asked.
 
Hmm I noticed a lot of dust on the right side of my 3G insides last night. Given that I got this phone from CPW, can I do anything?

Edit: It is hardly visible most of the time, as they are tiny speckles. For the most part they can only be seen with the screen switched off in sleep mode.
 
The best bet in my expereince is to go back to Apple regardless of who you bought it from.

I got an iphone 3G from CPW also which im pretty sure is faulty now, I dont have the receipt though (I realise i'm an idiot), would an Apple store help me out / swap for a new one?
 
Well the pathetic saga continues.

Popped to the Apple store last night with my damaged phone, guy there said that because I didn't buy it from them, there is nothing they can do, but if I take it back to the O2 shop, they should replace it regardless of whether it's my second handset or not. Was a bit miffed, but as I didn't have a Genius Bar appointment I could only go on what He told me.

Went back to the O2 shop earlier, showed them the handset, they all looked at it and had the cheek to imply that I had damaged it and that I should have checked it before I left the shop. All in all, they said that as it was already a replacement that they can't issue another and it has to be sent to Apple for evaluation, and even then Apple might not replace it. I argued the toss until I was blue in the face. They wouldn't even let me cancel the upgrade and revert back to my original tariff as they wouldn't take a damaged handset back. But they'd ******* hand one out!

I phoned O2 customer services there and then in the shop, the guy on the phone basically said the same thing as the others, and that it was down to the policy of the store I was in.

In the end, the 'duty manager' said He would phone his manager tomorrow and see what they say, if they offer a replacement out of good will then all is well, if not, it has to be sent off, or I take out insurance and claim on that.

Total pain in the **** and a waste of my time, and to be honest I just want rid of the whole thing. Sick of being fobbed off by people who have an answer for everything.
 
Well the pathetic saga continues.

Popped to the Apple store last night with my damaged phone, guy there said that because I didn't buy it from them, there is nothing they can do, but if I take it back to the O2 shop, they should replace it regardless of whether it's my second handset or not. Was a bit miffed, but as I didn't have a Genius Bar appointment I could only go on what He told me.

Went back to the O2 shop earlier, showed them the handset, they all looked at it and had the cheek to imply that I had damaged it and that I should have checked it before I left the shop. All in all, they said that as it was already a replacement that they can't issue another and it has to be sent to Apple for evaluation, and even then Apple might not replace it. I argued the toss until I was blue in the face. They wouldn't even let me cancel the upgrade and revert back to my original tariff as they wouldn't take a damaged handset back. But they'd ******* hand one out!

I phoned O2 customer services there and then in the shop, the guy on the phone basically said the same thing as the others, and that it was down to the policy of the store I was in.

In the end, the 'duty manager' said He would phone his manager tomorrow and see what they say, if they offer a replacement out of good will then all is well, if not, it has to be sent off, or I take out insurance and claim on that.

Total pain in the **** and a waste of my time, and to be honest I just want rid of the whole thing. Sick of being fobbed off by people who have an answer for everything.

I got my first iPhone from the O2 store and swapped it at the Apple store cos it had a faulty switch. They never even asked where I got it from.
 
Can u use USB extentions for the chargers as Im getting quite bored of sitting on top of the plug socket when I wana use it on charge.
 
Just ordered my 3G - little concerened after all the people who have had major problems with theres.

It really cant be that bad can it?
 
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