*** The iPhone 3G Thread ***

tempted to just go PAYG

i only ever need to top up 10/20 a month, the 300free texts and then the tenner is enough for me, usually, and i doubt i would use the interweb out and about.
but ive got inmind that the GPS you have to pay for using it? Will probally just buy a bolt-on for a month if i knew that i would be using it.
 
I went into the O2 store in the Cascades Shopping Center in Portsmouth and they said they will be opening at 7am on Friday to sell the new iPhone. They seemed quite enthusiastic which is good to see as people have reported going into store and the staff not knowing the 3G iPhone even existed.

ive got inmind that the GPS you have to pay for using it?

Well the GPS itself is free but to make any real use of it such as with the Google Maps application you need a data connection (GPRS, EDGE, UTMS, Wifi). I think you do need a generous data plan to make full use of the iPhone. I don't use any data on my current phone (Samsung D600) but that is because there is nothing to make use of it, the iPhone allows you to make use of data in many ways so I can see myself making good use of unlimited data.
 
You can navigate on the iPhone using maps, they demostrated it on the walkthrough video. It looked good enough to me. Just no speed cameras though!
 
I thought Tom Tom have in creation a GPS application for the iPhone meaning you can use full on Tom Tom using the GPS chip like some WM devices. This is how my SPV M700 works. No need for data use and how I was hoping the new iPhone will work so I can have an all-in-one GPS, phone and MP3 player.
 
Unlikely - it violates the iPhone EULA (real time route-finding and guidance software).

I believe that's just to cover themselves legally when the inevitable happens and some idiot drives into a river because their iphone told them to. TomTom are reported to be adapting their program for the iphone so I think once that is out a a lot of people will be very happy!
 
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Although it is all rumour - TomTom have denied quite strongly that they've made it or are even planning it... and it does violate the SDK license.
 
Of course TomTom and other nav apps will come to the iPhone. The EULA just reflects what is in the google maps EULA already which mainly refers to using the maps for guidence.

Nav is such a big thing that they're not about to let that one slip through thir fingers.
 
Why go to the effort to include a GPS chip if they won't let people develop TomTom like aps to use it? I certainly don't believe the cost is worth the geotagging and friend tracking features is worth that expense.
 
Why go to the effort to include a GPS chip if they won't let people develop TomTom like aps to use it? I certainly don't believe the cost is worth the geotagging and friend tracking features is worth that expense.

...a great way to ensure your $25 route guidance app sells on the app store ;)
 
Well I don't mine paying for an Apple subsidised GPS app so long as its as good if not better than Tom Tom and other equivalents.
 
The section in question refers to the Location Based APIs so the question is whether those APIs (which expose Google Maps functonality as well as more basic stuff) are the only way to communicate with the GPS unit.
 
The section in question refers to the Location Based APIs so the question is whether those APIs (which expose Google Maps functonality as well as more basic stuff) are the only way to communicate with the GPS unit.
Yes they are (without jailbreaking, that is).

I really hate the APIs. I'm a developer, I've used them a fair bit and they are just too restrictive. Sure, you can do some pretty amazing things like the games that have been demoed. In fact, you can absolutely brilliant things within the confines of your own application that sits on top of the iPhone API. However, it is really difficult to extend, modify and access many of the standard phone functionality and features.

There are more extensive and documented unofficial APIs for jail broken iPhones; i.e. don't even think about making something like IntelliScreen (http://www.greghughes.net/rant/TopNotchAppForIPhoneIntelliScreenBetaReleased.aspx) - which is in my opinion a basic addon to any phone (extendable home-screen functionality).
 
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