The muslims are at it again

Raz · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:51

HEADRAT said:
So what about the countless Muslims that died fighting for the UK in WWII?

Bummer, I'm probably not British enough then

HEADRAT

They don't count - Bosnian* Muslims fought on the Nazi's side so naturally all Muslims were Nazi lovers. Those fighting with the British really wanted to fight with Hitler's lot.

*I forget which one but you know what I mean..

VIRII · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:52

Raz said:
They don't count - Bosnian* Muslims fought on the Nazi's side so naturally all Muslims were Nazi lovers. Those fighting with the British really wanted to fight with Hitler's lot.

*I forget which one but you know what I mean..

So how many muslims fought for the UK then? 2? 3?

Sleepy · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:52

Raz said:
and your point is? My post was highlighting the fact that there is a difference between the two.

And my point is that so what if there is a difference, which I don't completely agree with, in this country my rights to express my self are the same no matter if I offend peoples religious beliefs.

Sleepy · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:52

VIRII said:
So how many muslims fought for the UK then? 2? 3?

Thats a surpisingly ignorant post from you. You might want to withdraw it.

Vita · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:54

Too Many Muslim threads, why must you hate us that much

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Raz · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:54

VIRII said:
The difference is you care about one and not the other.
The difference is purely your perception of what is important and what is not.
One is a card, the other a cartoon, neither are desperately important.
Yet you CHOOSE to give value to one, you choose to feel insulted. It is pathetic.

Me...

It's what it signifies. Are you telling me that if the card was blank you'd still be having a fit?

HEADRAT · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:54

VIRII said:
What about the countless muslims who died fighting against the UK you mean.......
Are you confusing Muslims with indians? Are you thinking the Turks were on our side?

VIRII said:
So how many muslims fought for the UK then? 2? 3?

http://www.answers.com/topic/british-indian-army

On the eve of World War II almost 34,000 Punjabi Muslims were in the army (29 per cent) and during World War-II over 380,000 joined (about 14% of the total). No other class came close to these figures: Sikhs: 116,000, Gurkhas: 109,000, Muslims of other classes from UP, Deccan, Madras, Bengal, NWFP, etc 274,000, were recruited during 1939-1945. Muslims as a whole constituted a quarter of the Indian Army as of 1947 9....

Raz · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:55

Sleepy said:
Thats a surpisingly ignorant post from you. You might want to withdraw it.

why should he? we know it's what he believes....

VIRII · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:55

Sleepy said:
Thats a surpisingly ignorant post from you. You might want to withdraw it.

Nope I'll let it stand

How many fought for the UK
Fighting against Nazi invaders and fighting for the UK are NOT the same thing.

Raz · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:55

VIRII said:
So how many muslims fought for the UK then? 2? 3?

well done, you've outdone yourself. Actually, no Muslims fought.

Inquisitor · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:56

VIRII said:
Read it. If you still can't figure it out then I doubt there is much we can do to explain it.

I have; I still can't see why this is actually worth getting wound up over. These muslims don't like Valentine's day, OK, that's up to them. Does it affect us? Nope, not in the slightest.

Btw, I'm talking in particular about the apparent outrage at the fact that these blokes have burnt some Valentine's day cards, and I happen to agree with you that there's no reason anyone should have to respect everyone else's beliefs (although I do believe it's important to respect their right to their beliefs).

I find it quite amusing that these people have chosen to do this while everyone else in the world is generally having a great time, but certainly not outrageous.

HEADRAT · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:56

VIRII said:
Nope I'll let it stand How many fought for the UK
Fighting against Nazi invaders and fighting for the UK are NOT the same thing.

HEADRAT said:
http://www.answers.com/topic/british-indian-army

On the eve of World War II almost 34,000 Punjabi Muslims were in the army (29 per cent) and during World War-II over 380,000 joined (about 14% of the total). No other class came close to these figures: Sikhs: 116,000, Gurkhas: 109,000, Muslims of other classes from UP, Deccan, Madras, Bengal, NWFP, etc 274,000, were recruited during 1939-1945. Muslims as a whole constituted a quarter of the Indian Army as of 1947 9....

VIRII · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:56

Vita said:
Too Many Muslim threads, why must you hate us that much .

I don't hate anyone who chooses to fit in and just get along with the way of life in the UK.

Sleepy · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:56

HEADRAT said:
http://www.answers.com/topic/british-indian-army

On the eve of World War II almost 34,000 Punjabi Muslims were in the army (29 per cent) and during World War-II over 380,000 joined (about 14% of the total). No other class came close to these figures: Sikhs: 116,000, Gurkhas: 109,000, Muslims of other classes from UP, Deccan, Madras, Bengal, NWFP, etc 274,000, were recruited during 1939-1945. Muslims as a whole constituted a quarter of the Indian Army as of 1947 9....

And the relevent figures:
a. Killed - 24,338
b. Wounded - 64,354
c. Missing - 11,754
d. POW - 79,489
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Total: 179,935

Raz · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:56

VIRII said:
Nope I'll let it stand How many fought for the UK
Fighting against Nazi invaders and fighting for the UK are NOT the same thing.

Especially when there were no 'Nazi invaders' invading India.

Raz · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:58

VIRII said:
I don't hate anyone who chooses to fit in and just get along with the way of life in the UK.

But you hate those people burning cards in Pakistan?

How many Muslims here on this board complained? Yet you still find it your duty to insult us as much you can.

well no matter.

I love you

Raz · 14 Feb 2007 at 20:58

Inquisitor said:
I find it quite amusing that these people have chosen to do this while everyone else in the world is generally having a great time, but certainly not outrageous.

I'm not, my wife-to-be is in Italy

Raz · 14 Feb 2007 at 21:01

Sleepy said:
And my point is that so what if there is a difference, which I don't completely agree with, in this country my rights to express my self are the same no matter if I offend peoples religious beliefs.

I understand that, but I still don't have any idea why you feel you need to tell me that. The point was that the cartoon was insulting to us - NOT whether it should have been drawn or not.

Sleepy · 14 Feb 2007 at 21:01

VIRII said:
Nope I'll let it stand How many fought for the UK
Fighting against Nazi invaders and fighting for the UK are NOT the same thing.

Well how many blokes from the Eastend fought for the UK? Probably none, they fought for King and Empire, some cos of a hatred of facism, some cos it was the 'thing to do'

Vita · 14 Feb 2007 at 21:02

VIRII said:
I don't hate anyone who chooses to fit in and just get along with the way of life in the UK.

Yeah but, Valentines day isn't only celebrated in the UK. It's done all over the world. And if Muslims didn't want to get along, do you really think some would change the way they live just to stay in a country?

Think about it.