The muslims are at it again

ElRazur · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:13

Raz said:
ElRazur, in all seriousness, you don't need to bother arguing. Finding fundamental faults with Islam is one thing - it allows us to question what we believe, but making blank statements against Islam all the time is another.

Right...My bad so Hijab is islamic then and others....? :confused:

Skyfire · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:14

VIRII said:
I cba to check the exact post and I believe it was deleted by a mod but iirc you stated that she must be a chav if she was born on a council estate.
I am not sure if that is why you got a short suspension. I'd rather you got a long one, preferably by some rope around your neck

*disclaimer - winky smiley used so it must be alright....

The chav comment was not even worthy of an RTM let alone a suspension. It was actually because of a misunderstanding with another poster.

/unties rope and makes it into a lasso

As we are being honest, might I ask why your wife was from a council estate?

Raz · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:14

cleanbluesky said:
all good things practiced by Muslims = responsibilty of Islam

all bad things practiced by Muslims = something else

People from abroad - including Europe - see England as having a booze culture, fair to say that Christianity is about booze and hang overs?

Skyfire · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:16

ElRazur said:
Right...My bad so Hijab is islamic then and others....?

May I ask why you left Nigeria? And what was wrong with France, Germany etc.? :confused:

squiffy · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:16

ElRazur said:
According to my understanding, water and food is not allowed in christainity. Fasting is depriving one self of certain enjoyments so as to get in a clean state with god - Back in those days -Biblical and muhammed period, food and water was something considered to be one of those.

Water isn't a "enjoyment" it's about basic requirement. I hope nowaways people have changed, you don't dehydrate yourself no matter what the cirumstance. 12 hours without water in a desert enviroment doesn't seem such a good idea.

ElRazur · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:16

Skyfire said:
May I ask why you left Nigeria?

May i ask you what is the relevance :confused:

Raz · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:16

VIRII said:
Why?
Incidentally does Islam have a culture associated with it......

pedantic aren't you. Yes it does, answered to you millions of times before.

Raz · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:17

ElRazur said:
Right...My bad so Hijab is islamic then and others....?

Your comment was 'bad' yes. Since it was about arranged marriages and male dominance are you saying it wasn't?

ElRazur · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:18

squiffy said:
Water isn't a "enjoyment" it's about basic requirement. I hope nowaways people have changed, you don't dehydrate yourself no matter what the cirumstance. 12 hours without water in a desert enviroment doesn't seem such a good idea.

You dont fast for 12 hours but from sunrise to sunset...Well, my understanding. Muslims uses the moon and what not...so could be less or more sometimes but not 12 hours.

cleanbluesky · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:19

Raz said:
People from abroad - including Europe - see England as having a booze culture, fair to say that Christianity is about booze and hang overs?

I dont give a fudge about Christianity -we're not talking about a stereotype here - I'm asking why some people on this board consistently disclaim any negative behaviour associated with Islam as being cultural whilst accepting positive behaviours as Islamic

VIRII · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:19

Skyfire said:
The chav comment was not even worthy of an RTM let alone a suspension. It was actually because of a misunderstanding with another poster.

/unties rope

As we are being honest, might I ask why your wife was from a council estate?

Incidentally you were suspended BEFORE I saw the comment not after.

Because her parents lived in a council house?
Her father, whilst intelligent, had a very limited experience of life, a job he did for 20 plus years and I guess he was simply rooted in place.
He took an OU degree and it led to him travelling the world, living abroad and experiencing more of the world in 2 years than in the previous 50.

I met her at a concert as we both love music.(Well a gig actually at the Marquee - sadly closed down years ago). We met, we fell in love, we got married etc. She is intelligent, well spoken, ambitious, a bit lefty politically, a kind and gentle mother and into the arts and all things theatrical.
What's not to like. (Apart from the guardian reading aspects).

ElRazur · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:19

Raz said:
Your comment was 'bad' yes. Since it was about arranged marriages and male dominance are you saying it wasn't?

Bro, my comment was NOT "bad" more like a tongue in cheek. You refuse to see the point hence i said so.

Raz · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:20

ElRazur said:
You dont fast for 12 hours but from sunrise to sunset...Well, my understanding. Muslims uses the moon and what not...so could be less or more sometimes but not 12 hours.

Seeing how you were Muslim, you should know that. But yes you're right anyway.

Skyfire · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:20

ElRazur said:
May i ask you what is the relevance

/Non-PC mode on

You bang on about Islam and other cultures, Nigeria is your problem, you should not have escaped but try to make it a better place. This, incidentally, is good advice for all immigrants. So why did you come to the UK, if you don't mind me asking :confused:

Raz · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:21

ElRazur said:
Bro, my comment was "bad" more like a tongue in cheek. You refuse to see the point hence i said so.

I see your point, 'Islamic' culture has many bad points, and could learn a lot from Western culture. My point is that we should at least know what is based on Culture and what is based on Religion.

VIRII · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:21

ElRazur said:
Bro, my comment was "bad" more like a tongue in cheek. You refuse to see the point hence i said so.

Is that "bad" as in negative or "Baaaaaaad" as in "goooood"?

ElRazur · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:23

Skyfire said:
/Non-PC mode on

You bang on about Islam and other cultures, Nigeria is your problem, you should not have escaped but try to make it a better place. This, incidentally, is good advice for all immigrants. So why did you come to the UK, if you don't mind me asking

Is this the dude who voted bnp? Haaa. I was born here so your statement is invalid. Again i dont see the relevance. Try again. Oh i forgot here - :confused:

manoz · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:23

Is that blood they're using in picture 6?

cleanbluesky · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:23

VIRII said:
I met her at a concert as we both love music.(Well a gig actually at the Marquee - sadly closed down years ago). We met, we fell in love, we got married etc. She is intelligent, well spoken, ambitious, a bit lefty politically, a kind and gentle mother and into the arts and all things theatrical.
What's not to like. (Apart from the guardian reading aspects).

Aaaawwww

I hope you got her flowers yesterday. Then sat her down and explained to her that her political leanings are contributing to a general decline in British society, even though she reads the only paper that is a True Bastion of Truth in this media-crazy sensationalist society...

Skyfire · 15 Feb 2007 at 13:24

VIRII said:
Because her parents lived in a council house?
Her father, whilst intelligent, had a very limited experience of life, a job he did for 20 plus years and I guess he was simply rooted in place.
He took an OU degree and it led to him travelling the world, living abroad and experiencing more of the world in 2 years than in the previous 50.

I met her at a concert as we both love music.(Well a gig actually at the Marquee - sadly closed down years ago). We met, we fell in love, we got married etc. She is intelligent, well spoken, ambitious, a bit lefty politically, a kind and gentle mother and into the arts and all things theatrical.
What's not to like. (Apart from the guardian reading aspects).

Maybe she thinks you are too righty?

Marrying a lefty is a bit like marrying another culture if I am to read your post correctly, would a true Aryan wife be more to your liking, if so, why not have pushed harder for true happiness in your life?