The New European Super (borefest) League

omnomnom said:
They would need the permission from the club's IN the premier League which they would prob get.
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The FA also needs to approve any competition a club plays is. It's clear there's going to be huge pressure from UEFA and likely FIFA to stop the affected FA's giving that approval.

If clubs are made to pick between domestic league or this I can't see the English clubs picking the Super League, it would kill their home following.
 
Perhaps champs league qualification should be based more on uefa co-efficients than just finishing third or fourth.

Say like a champion from each league followed by the next 20 or so teams in the top CE rankings.
 
omnomnom said:
AHH ok so what have I said in that quote that's incorrect?
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I simply quoted the latest one, there are plenty to choose from:p I don't agree with everything G Neville says but he speaks a lot of truth around this. Might be worth rewatching what he said and listen to it without the Liverpool glasses on as I said.

From my perspective remove the 'closed shop' aspect of it and allow promotion & relegation from it in some form then on the face of it I'm not seeing too much difference
 
Jimbeam3678 said:
I simply quoted the latest one, there are plenty to choose from:p I don't agree with everything G Neville says but he speaks a lot of truth around this. Might be worth rewatching what he said and listen to it without the Liverpool glasses on as I said.

From my perspective remove the 'closed shop' aspect of it and allow promotion & relegation from it in some form then on the face of it I'm not seeing too much difference
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But the latest one is factually correct?
 
BaZ87 said:
This has gone on and goes on at every level for years and years. I've banged on about it for the past 10 months now - we have parachute payments to protect the bottom of the PL, when project restart was being negotiated we had the smallest PL sides trying to block relegations and promotions to the PL to protect themselves, when talk of bailouts for the EFL were being discussed none of the (small) PL sides wanted to give a penny to the Championship. Everybody wants a closed shop, just only to those below them.
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I don't disagree with some of the points here - I think the PL has a responsibility to share the wealth with the lower leagues that it's currently failing to do. But even taking into account parachute payments, we've seen over 20 different clubs promoted to the PL in the last 10 seasons, so it can't be that much of a closed shop - this ESL appears to be completely different.
 
planty said:
I don't disagree with some of the points here - I think the PL has a responsibility to share the wealth with the lower leagues that it's currently failing to do. But even taking into account parachute payments, we've seen over 20 different clubs promoted to the PL in the last 10 seasons, so it can't be that much of a closed shop - this ESL appears to be completely different.
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The last sentence there is the big one.

If for whatever reason one of the big 6 squads totally implode, they could be relegated from the PL (realistically this wouldn't happen). This new (15 founders never get to leave) leagues rule sits so badly with me.
 
omnomnom said:
But the latest one is factually correct?
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I thought we were talking about the 'Super league':confused: I quoted it to highlight your obvious (to me anyway) dislike of Neville presumably due to the Liverpool & Man U thing. My point was maybe listen to him without the tribal glasses on, I don't think that's unfair to be honest.

To directly answer your off topic question if my memory serves me correctly I recall he presented what he saw and left you to form your opinions. I could be wrong as that documentary was what 2 or 3 years ago?
 
Jimbeam3678 said:
I thought we were talking about the 'Super league':confused: I quoted it to highlight your obvious (to me anyway) dislike of Neville presumably due to the Liverpool & Man U thing. My point was maybe listen to him without the tribal glasses on, I don't think that's unfair to be honest.

To directly answer your off topic question if my memory serves me correctly I recall he presented what he saw and left you to form your opinions. I could be wrong as that documentary was what 2 or 3 years ago?
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I don't dislike him at all but he's a massive hypocrite who's reaction was completely over the top.
 
Its a really tricky topic because fandamentally football became almost entirely about money years ago. When you are paying hundreds of millions for players, paying them half a million a week to play and the top is very much the same year after year based mainly on club wealth, you can't argue its not money driven.

When you allow oil countries to finance clubs, when you allow leveraged takeovers of clubs, when short term monetary success is all owners care about, its about the money.

This all smacks a little of Lewis Hamilton in F1 for me. There is only so much I can listen to someone preach to me about anything moralistic when they are fantastically wealthy and represent the very thing they claim to abhor.

FIFA is corrupt as hell, has been taking bribes for years, has/is taking the WC to places they shouldn't be entirely for monetary reasons. I guess my opinion is mainly coming from a fans perspective and a super-league is bad for the fans of almost every team apart from from those in it.

That being said, few clubs at the top of the game give a single **** about their fans beyond their desire to dip into their wallets so why would they care about them.
 
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