The OcUK Relationship Counselling and Hugs Thread

Weird isn't it. I was the same - even in my real life. I struggled to tell friends. I told very few people. My work colleagues didn't even know until earlier this year. Part of me thought if I could hide it that it wouldn't be real. We are pressured into having these perfect family lives and you feel like a failure when it isnt!

I still sometimes wake up in the morning without it on my mind, before I realise that damn, my marriage has ended. You have to own these feelings and move on, else you will just become the victim. The sad old divorcee who wastes the next 10 years of their life never getting over it! That's what I will not become!

I told my work only because it was affecting it. I wanted them to know that things were difficult and as much as I was keeping it bottled up some days were going to be difficult.

there were 2 couple friends that knew about it and she seemed to tell a lot of her work friends.

It was our 10yr anniversary last may which was after we called it quits. With not many people knowing her social media was littered with congratulations etc. Little did they know.
They say a picture tells a thousand words and Facebook proves this. But with a difference. It tells a thousand lies. Not all is what it seems.

I’ve not woken up like that and have only looked on positives. I’m not one to dwell on the past even if it was such a huge part of my life. What’s done is done. Time to
Move on. Reigniting old friendships and starting new ones.
 
Thanks for sharing all your stories guys much pain and hope in these. And glad to see I'm not alone. What resonates is this from joel
This....

My guess is the turning point was when your child was born. You both devoted so much time and effort on your child that you forgot about each other. Not on purpose but because you mind was elsewhere. As time when on you drifted apart but stayed as a unit together.

Both my and my partner agree this is what caused the problems and the miscommunication or no communication. The pressures of bringing up children really leave little time to furnish the relationship. I suppose women need that more than men. I just accept that brining up kids is hard and get on with the ups and downs. I think my partner really believes it shouldn't be and everything should be wonderful as portrayed on social bloody media!

But heh ho lets see what happens; I always have hope but the reality of that will be tested over the coming weeks!

I have good siblings and think I'll be calling on them for some support when I really need it. I also have a really good boss too so I'll get the space I need.
 
Thanks for sharing all your stories guys much pain and hope in these. And glad to see I'm not alone. What resonates is this from joel


Both my and my partner agree this is what caused the problems and the miscommunication or no communication. The pressures of bringing up children really leave little time to furnish the relationship. I suppose women need that more than men. I just accept that brining up kids is hard and get on with the ups and downs. I think my partner really believes it shouldn't be and everything should be wonderful as portrayed on social bloody media!

But heh ho lets see what happens; I always have hope but the reality of that will be tested over the coming weeks!

I have good siblings and think I'll be calling on them for some support when I really need it. I also have a really good boss too so I'll get the space I need.

talking to people is good. Just choose wisely. I purposely didn’t choose my close friends as their partners were close friends with my ex. I didn’t want any kind of conflict of interest as the ex would have for sure spoken to the females of the gang.
People on here were helpful and also on another forum I’m a member of. Family wise I chose my mum and my cousin.

All the best though mate, hang on in there! Keep us updated if you wish. We are no experts on relationships but we can give our experiences and tell you how things went.
 
My turn to ramble. My wife and I have been together for 13 years, married for nearly 9. When we first got together she was active and energetic and got me into a lot of good habits, not just around my own fitness/health but helped me with my confidence and plenty more besides. I’ve always been a more introverted/passive person so her personality was a natural fit for me, bringing me out of my shell and giving me a bit more drive.

Fast forward to now and it feels like things have done a total 180. It feels like I have to take the lead on everything and always be the one to pick up the pieces when things go bad. I feel terrible for saying that because there is usually a good reason for it beyond her control but I guess it gets to a point where there’s always “something”. I on the other hand just get on with things.

I guess things have come to a head over the last few months because I’m starting to feel like she’s just giving up. Throughout lockdown I’ve really tried to look after myself, keep up good habits and routines, eat well etc. She spends half the time in her pyjamas, doesn’t do much around the house and lives off junk (well, relatively speaking anyway). I feel like it’s really damaged our physical relationship, as well as just being a drain on me. I just feel very relied upon but not particularly valued.

I’ve wanted to bring this up for a while but she’s recovering from an operation which has caused us both a lot of stress. It didn’t seem fair to add to it. However, I also know she will blame things on that but the reality is it was an issue long before the illness. Unfortunately this basically means I’ve had to stew about it until she recovers well enough to talk about it properly. The fact I’ve basically been a carer for the last couple of weeks has not helped, first because it’s not particularly romantic when things are already difficult and second because the fact she can’t do anything around the house has not made all that much difference.

I’m mentally exhausted dealing with it all. I don’t want to do anything drastic but I guess my concern is once this issue is out of the way something else will inevitably come along. We do still get along really well but at times it feels like we’re really good housemates rather than a couple. :/

Just feel a bit trapped I guess. It makes me sad reading some of the stories on this page with similarities that ended the way they did.
 
@One More Solo

sorry to hear you story. Illnesses and surgeries can put a strain on even some of the strongest bonds.

my personal opinion is that you need to bring it up with her. It sounds like you are close to throwing in the towel which sounds understandable in your situation. Do you think things could go back to what they once were?
 
Has she ever suffered with depression? It sounds like she could perhaps be going through that right now, especially if she had a complete opposite personality in the past.

Sometimes a person doesn't realise how much they've changed because of certain events etc. It took me several years to realise I'd lost who I used to be but now I'm trying to get back to that person. Counselling really helped with that, not just to air things out but also to learn ways to deal with stress etc.

I also had an ex who went through a depressive state which I was unaware of despite living together. He pushed me away emotionally (and physically a couple of times) he never wanted to do anything, he was withdrawn. Eventually I fell out of love and it devastated him. I felt awful but I was young and couldn't deal with the aggression etc that I was seeing. I do sometimes wonder where we'd be if he hadn't pushed me away. I don't think he was fully aware that he was doing it.

Sadly relationships aren't easy and there are going to be times when it gets tough, really tough. The question is do you want to stick around and fight for it or do you want to walk away?

You definitely need to talk to her either way.
 
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Yo Solo I would advise waiting to see how she is in a couple more months. We are in weird times and people react to lockdown differently - some people are fitter/more active and some got fatter. Definitely not worth doing anything drastic until we are out of it and then you should talk to her about it and make sure she's aware how you're feeling. I had the same issue with my ex and didn't say anything and should have!
 
@One More Solo

Personally I would leave it for now, with her operation and lockdown effect you need to give her the support she needs and put aside your own feelings.

I know its hard dude and you want things to resemble normality between you two but this is somethings how a relationship pans out and you will get through it.
 
My turn to ramble. My wife and I have been together for 13 years, married for nearly 9. When we first got together she was active and energetic and got me into a lot of good habits, not just around my own fitness/health but helped me with my confidence and plenty more besides. I’ve always been a more introverted/passive person so her personality was a natural fit for me, bringing me out of my shell and giving me a bit more drive.

Fast forward to now and it feels like things have done a total 180. It feels like I have to take the lead on everything and always be the one to pick up the pieces when things go bad. I feel terrible for saying that because there is usually a good reason for it beyond her control but I guess it gets to a point where there’s always “something”. I on the other hand just get on with things.

I guess things have come to a head over the last few months because I’m starting to feel like she’s just giving up. Throughout lockdown I’ve really tried to look after myself, keep up good habits and routines, eat well etc. She spends half the time in her pyjamas, doesn’t do much around the house and lives off junk (well, relatively speaking anyway). I feel like it’s really damaged our physical relationship, as well as just being a drain on me. I just feel very relied upon but not particularly valued.

I’ve wanted to bring this up for a while but she’s recovering from an operation which has caused us both a lot of stress. It didn’t seem fair to add to it. However, I also know she will blame things on that but the reality is it was an issue long before the illness. Unfortunately this basically means I’ve had to stew about it until she recovers well enough to talk about it properly. The fact I’ve basically been a carer for the last couple of weeks has not helped, first because it’s not particularly romantic when things are already difficult and second because the fact she can’t do anything around the house has not made all that much difference.

I’m mentally exhausted dealing with it all. I don’t want to do anything drastic but I guess my concern is once this issue is out of the way something else will inevitably come along. We do still get along really well but at times it feels like we’re really good housemates rather than a couple. :/

Just feel a bit trapped I guess. It makes me sad reading some of the stories on this page with similarities that ended the way they did.

Mines different but net result is same. My gf has a medical condition now that's basically made her weak and unable to do any of the things I enjoy.

So Slightly different reasons. But yeah I feel like we are becoming housemates too. So I think I know how you feel. I feel like it just a slow decline into friends for me.

I dunno about you, but Ive just started doing things on my own. Like rather than feeling bad about it. I've even booked myself mini breaks.
I go on my bike, I've got a little trip to France doing adventure stuff.

I'm tired, as I have to do all the things she can't. She can't even vacuum as 3kg hand hoover is too heavy. This list is growing. I don't even ask for help any more. I guess at the moment I 'cope'. But it's no fun. That's the big issue for me.

I know it's going to be worse when lockdown is over. Ive wanted to book a holiday to Mexico to do one of my bucket list items, but I'm not even sure if she can physically do it anymore.


Is this in anyway similar to yours? Not the cause, but the net result?
 
She has asked for a trial seperation but I'm not sure its such a good idea having to leave the house in case the worse comes to worse.

Why is she expecting you to leave the house? In whose name is the house? I know I'm being profoundly cynical but this sounds like her setting you up so she can keep the house and the children in the divorce. If she wants a trial separation then she should be the one who leaves.
 
Really sorry to hear that @One More Solo.
The short answer is that there is never a good time to say to your partner "I'm not happy". There will always be a reason to put it off, but as you have said in your post, you are starting to stew on the current situation. The problem with these things is that eventually you emotionally disconnect from your partner ie stop fancying them because they are annoying you and that makes it much harder to reconnect, and puts the relationship at risk from outside forces as well.
Until you talk about it, you don't know what she is willing to change and what she isn't. I understand that we're all in a bizarre situation here, and people won't have been acting "normally" for the last 12 months, but in a way right now a door is opening which has been closed all that time. I'd give yourself a date in your mind, bearing in mind her recovery times for the operation, when you will raise it with her.
Would you consider counselling if she suggested it? It can be really useful to have an independent party help you put your finger on what you want to change.
 
Hello all.

So I’m around a month into my online dating adventure where I’ve exclusive talked to one woman a lot. We message all day every day, we call each other at least twice a day. We’ve video called and we’ve met in Tesco car park.

Today she invited me to an event in a few months time with her and her daughter (this is big deal in my eyes). (For context and is relevant shortly in my story The dad has never been interested or on the scene from what she has told me)
The last message I received from her tonight was one telling me how lucky she was to have met me etc. Which she has said a number of times before. My response was of a similar nature which it has been before too. We have both expressed strong feeling for each other, we’ve got on so well and it feels like I’ve known her along longer than I have.
Shes asked if I’d book time off work to spend the day with her and have planned other days in a few weeks time to spend with each other in the times we have free. (When lockdown eases)
In time between her last message to me and normal sleep time she posted on her Facebook tagging the dad of her child in a picture of her saying “she still very much looks like you” but I didn’t receive any kind of message or normal phone call from her saying good night.

So I guess my question is

Do you think what she is telling me about how she feels is the truth?

Does someone spend this much time and effort calling and messaging if she doesn’t mean it?

Am I overthinking the Facebook post?

My confidence is not great due to my ex. If my own wife didn’t really like me then why would anyone else is how I view things.

Would love some feedback.
 
You won't know until you spend more time with her. But one thing is for sure, however much she says the father is no longer in their lives, the likelihood is that he will always be in the background. That is one of the difficulties in dating a single parent. I'm not saying it's necessarily a problem but it's something you have to accept and be happy with in such a relationship.
 
Hello all.

So I’m around a month into my online dating adventure where I’ve exclusive talked to one woman a lot. We message all day every day, we call each other at least twice a day. We’ve video called and we’ve met in Tesco car park.

Today she invited me to an event in a few months time with her and her daughter (this is big deal in my eyes). (For context and is relevant shortly in my story The dad has never been interested or on the scene from what she has told me)
The last message I received from her tonight was one telling me how lucky she was to have met me etc. Which she has said a number of times before. My response was of a similar nature which it has been before too. We have both expressed strong feeling for each other, we’ve got on so well and it feels like I’ve known her along longer than I have.
Shes asked if I’d book time off work to spend the day with her and have planned other days in a few weeks time to spend with each other in the times we have free. (When lockdown eases)
In time between her last message to me and normal sleep time she posted on her Facebook tagging the dad of her child in a picture of her saying “she still very much looks like you” but I didn’t receive any kind of message or normal phone call from her saying good night.

So I guess my question is

Do you think what she is telling me about how she feels is the truth?

Does someone spend this much time and effort calling and messaging if she doesn’t mean it?

Am I overthinking the Facebook post?

My confidence is not great due to my ex. If my own wife didn’t really like me then why would anyone else is how I view things.

Would love some feedback.

I’d recommend keeping your options open and not putting all your eggs in on basket. Don’t hold back with her, but you’ve only known her a month, and have hardly spent any real time with her (online/telephone calls don’t count), that way you don’t set yourself up for disappointment. Just enjoy yourself and see where it goes.

It’s certainly not a good sign that she’s told you one thing about her ex not being a thing, mean while she’s posting lovey dovey stuff to her ex? To me I’d immediately be thinking he binned her off, she will always be pining for him, and this is an example of that.

Sounds like you are going through New Relationship Energy, which is great and something to be enjoyed, but don’t let it cloud your judgment or set you up with unrealistic expectations for the future or put her on a pedestal.
 
You won't know until you spend more time with her. But one thing is for sure, however much she says the father is no longer in their lives, the likelihood is that he will always be in the background. That is one of the difficulties in dating a single parent. I'm not saying it's necessarily a problem but it's something you have to accept and be happy with in such a relationship.

I have no issues with it, I have children and am in contact with my ex. I guess it was more just that her words to me was that he’s never been in the picture as far as her daughter goes ie from birth, not spent time with her, not been a father to her at all, not provided etc but then she posts that?

I’d recommend keeping your options open and not putting all your eggs in on basket. Don’t hold back with her, but you’ve only known her a month, and have hardly spent any real time with her (online/telephone calls don’t count), that way you don’t set yourself up for disappointment. Just enjoy yourself and see where it goes.

It’s certainly not a good sign that she’s told you one thing about her ex not being a thing, mean while she’s posting lovey dovey stuff to her ex? To me I’d immediately be thinking he binned her off, she will always be pining for him, and this is an example of that.

Sounds like you are going through New Relationship Energy, which is great and something to be enjoyed, but don’t let it cloud your judgment or set you up with unrealistic expectations for the future or put her on a pedestal.

As much as I’d love not to put all my eggs in one basket it’s not in my nature to potentially string along multiple woman. Have one that is interested is a hard enough concept to grasp.

as above. The dad as far as she said has never been in the picture. (The daughter is 10) it was just odd that she posts that if it was the case. I kind of want to mention it but don’t know how to approach it in a way that’s sensitive.

I guess the new relationship thing makes sense. But if I had to make a list of every quality I’d look for in a woman she would tick every single one. That is putting looks aside too.

Not that I’d ever compare her to my ex to her face but I never felt like this with my ex in the early days.

Due to family events the relationship with the ex was rushed at the start. I had the choice of being homeless or moving in with her after around 4 months of knowing her.

I guess I do just need to give it more time.
we have 8 evenings pencilled in starting the 13th including a whole day together on the 23rd.
 
@joelk2 I would just err on the side of caution. Try not to get too invested before really getting to know her first. Allowing you to meet her daughter is a big step but there are some who don't seem all too concerned with their children meeting potential new partners

RE the Facebook post it could be her way of provoking a response out of him, get him to show his child attention or it could be her missing him and using it as an excuse to make contact. (Probably the latter)

I wouldn't mention it to her though. She might feel you're checking up on her. Plus you could ask her but how do you know you'd get the truth back?

It's easy to get caught up in the excitement of a new potential relationship. Just remember to take a deep breath and not rush into anything :)
 
@joelk2 I would just err on the side of caution. Try not to get too invested before really getting to know her first. Allowing you to meet her daughter is a big step but there are some who don't seem all too concerned with their children meeting potential new partners

RE the Facebook post it could be her way of provoking a response out of him, get him to show his child attention or it could be her missing him and using it as an excuse to make contact. (Probably the latter)

I wouldn't mention it to her though. She might feel you're checking up on her. Plus you could ask her but how do you know you'd get the truth back?

It's easy to get caught up in the excitement of a new potential relationship. Just remember to take a deep breath and not rush into anything :)

thanks. I guess you are right.
I think I do have an issue where I get invested too quickly. But when someone seems so right and things just seem to click it’s really hard not to. I mean I don’t have much experience in the matter but I can remember similar from days of old.

I won’t bring up the Facebook thing, I very rarely use it anyways. If it wasn’t for the marketplace I would have deleted my account a long time ago. It was just a little heartbreaking to see that she hadn’t replied to me but was posting that on Facebook if that makes sense.

Maybe I’m just asking for too much in regards to messages and responses. It was basically the only way me and the ex would ever communicate so I guess I just got used to it.

Will see how things go today

the whole charade of last night has resulted in me getting about 2 hours sleep
 
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I have no issues with it, I have children and am in contact with my ex. I guess it was more just that her words to me was that he’s never been in the picture as far as her daughter goes ie from birth, not spent time with her, not been a father to her at all, not provided etc but then she posts that?

As much as I’d love not to put all my eggs in one basket it’s not in my nature to potentially string along multiple woman. Have one that is interested is a hard enough concept to grasp.

as above. The dad as far as she said has never been in the picture. (The daughter is 10) it was just odd that she posts that if it was the case. I kind of want to mention it but don’t know how to approach it in a way that’s sensitive.

I guess the new relationship thing makes sense. But if I had to make a list of every quality I’d look for in a woman she would tick every single one. That is putting looks aside too.

Not that I’d ever compare her to my ex to her face but I never felt like this with my ex in the early days.

Due to family events the relationship with the ex was rushed at the start. I had the choice of being homeless or moving in with her after around 4 months of knowing her.

I guess I do just need to give it more time.
we have 8 evenings pencilled in starting the 13th including a whole day together on the 23rd.

A word of warning. Online communications like this can foster a false sense of intimacy. It can be very intense and bypass a lot of the social rules present when getting to know someone in person. You will generate a whole lot of feelings and preconceptions in your head that may just not be present when you meet and spend time in real life. An example of this is when you say you feel like you know her a lot longer than you have. You don't, but you feel that way due to the intense nature of funnelling your communications down a very narrow medium. It's like those experiments where they get two people to think they've fallen in love by having them stare into each other's eyes and ask each other twenty very personal questions. It works the same way.

Be aware of this when you meet up, things may be quite different in terms of how you feel about each other, and you've got to be ready for that. Treat it as a first date where you know a lot about each other on paper, but it's not the same as the physicality of being there in person, and that you don't really know each other beyond what you've said to each other. You've presented yourself as you see yourself, but she may have different ideas (and so might you).

As for the ex, that's something to keep an eye on. People with kids come with a certain amount of baggage, and they know that it can scare people off. She may be bending the truth, but there's a bit of dishonesty there if she's telling you the ex is out of the picture while she's tagging him on Facebook. She may be trying to stop you feeling that your going to come in fourth place after herself, her kid, and the father of her child, but that may be the case. I know you said you have kids and are in contact with your ex, but have you felt the need to lie about it to this new woman? That's a warning sign if she's going to start a relationship by lying to you in order to manipulate how you feel about her.
 
A word of warning. Online communications like this can foster a false sense of intimacy. It can be very intense and bypass a lot of the social rules present when getting to know someone in person. You will generate a whole lot of feelings and preconceptions in your head that may just not be present when you meet and spend time in real life. An example of this is when you say you feel like you know her a lot longer than you have. You don't, but you feel that way due to the intense nature of funnelling your communications down a very narrow medium. It's like those experiments where they get two people to think they've fallen in love by having them stare into each other's eyes and ask each other twenty very personal questions. It works the same way.

Be aware of this when you meet up, things may be quite different in terms of how you feel about each other, and you've got to be ready for that. Treat it as a first date where you know a lot about each other on paper, but it's not the same as the physicality of being there in person, and that you don't really know each other beyond what you've said to each other. You've presented yourself as you see yourself, but she may have different ideas (and so might you).

As for the ex, that's something to keep an eye on. People with kids come with a certain amount of baggage, and they know that it can scare people off. She may be bending the truth, but there's a bit of dishonesty there if she's telling you the ex is out of the picture while she's tagging him on Facebook. She may be trying to stop you feeling that your going to come in fourth place after herself, her kid, and the father of her child, but that may be the case. I know you said you have kids and are in contact with your ex, but have you felt the need to lie about it to this new woman? That's a warning sign if she's going to start a relationship by lying to you in order to manipulate how you feel about her.

We have met once already, it was a successful meeting. We chatted, laughed, hugged and kissed. I was greeted after by a message saying it confirmed how much she liked me.

I guess it’s more of the kind of dishonesty in a way that’s the bother. I wouldn’t dare tag my ex in a message such as that and we were married and have both been in the children’s lives through it all.

I have been fully upfront with everything in regards to my ex and was from the very the start. I didn’t want to paint any kind of picture which wasn’t the truth. I am a very honest and open person and like to think it’s one of my strengths. I come with my own baggage as such. But the potential of meeting someone with a child already doesn’t bother me, in fact I prefer it. I tend to find they are more mature and less selfish.

just as a side note. The Facebook post has been deleted.
 
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