*** The Official Elite: Dangerous Thread ***
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That's why everybody will buy NMS too in fact. But other than that the two can't quite compare.
As a veteran of Elite, FE2 and EVE/beta I can tell you now Elite dangerous is cheap as chips.
If its £40 a year for a season pass so to say that's very cheap. EVE online is £90 a year and is the biggest grind fest of all. I thought Eve was the new elite how wrong I was in 2003.
Didn't stop me grinding for 4 years and making £300 in real money selling my character.
Elite is the only game where you feel like you are actually flying a space ship, not some pew pew your dead, you have to think should I run or fight etc.
I agree at the moment it can be as shallow as a puddle but give it time.
I see a great game that can only get better with time and support as in DLC.
Or do you want to pay £8 a month forever?
If its £40 a year for a season pass so to say that's very cheap. EVE online is £90 a year and is the biggest grind fest of all. I thought Eve was the new elite how wrong I was in 2003.
Didn't stop me grinding for 4 years and making £300 in real money selling my character.
Elite is the only game where you feel like you are actually flying a space ship, not some pew pew your dead, you have to think should I run or fight etc.
I agree at the moment it can be as shallow as a puddle but give it time.
I see a great game that can only get better with time and support as in DLC.
Or do you want to pay £8 a month forever?
Seriously? Do we need to make a chart comparing all the features or are you just trolling now?
i wasnt comparing the list of features between the two. if i was i would have listed them for both......
I do find it interesting that NMS can do PL within the core game whereas FD its an extra rather expensive paid add-on....however we dont know exactly how the landings are going to work so it is mainly speculation at the moment. But it is fair to say that this is a very expensive expansion. Hope theres a lot of meat to it which makes it worthwhile.
I do find it interesting that NMS can do PL within the core game whereas FD its an extra rather expensive paid add-on....however we dont know exactly how the landings are going to work so it is mainly speculation at the moment. But it is fair to say that this is a very expensive expansion. Hope theres a lot of meat to it which makes it worthwhile.
Interesting? Not in the least, it's called direction.
If you had followed any of the news from today you'd know a fair bit about how the landings will work too, you'd also know that the expansion does not stop with planetary landings but that is just the first feature point for it, but then I'm sure you'll carry on moaning about how £30 is expensive for a single facet of what is likely to be an entire years worth of updates and compare it to a completely different game that we know even less about all the while whining about value for money, guess what? don't like it, don't buy it.
If you had followed any of the news from today you'd know a fair bit about how the landings will work too, you'd also know that the expansion does not stop with planetary landings but that is just the first feature point for it, but then I'm sure you'll carry on moaning about how £30 is expensive for a single facet of what is likely to be an entire years worth of updates and compare it to a completely different game that we know even less about all the while whining about value for money, guess what? don't like it, don't buy it.
Wow lol. How about you get off your high horse yeah? I'm allowed to have an opinion. You might not like it but that's tough.
In actual fact im quite active on the Frontier forums so i do know a lot about what the first stage of PL is envisioned to be...well as much as David, Michael etc have been willing to state e.g. from here
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=172526
Summed up nicely. But it doesnt give us details, specifics...how things will work.
Also here:
https://www.elitedangerous.com/en/horizons?gclid=CIi_g-SNk8cCFSoEwwodGZQAWg&gclsrc=aw.ds
Bearing in mind its £39.99 which not too long ago that was the price for the core game Elite Dangerous by itself. A pretty steep price for DLC no? But hey i dont know of any other DLC of any PC game which was £39.99 thats why im saying it feels expensive.
That £39.99 includes the base game which as i said not long ago that was £39.99 by itself. Current players get a £10 discount if they buy within the limited time period making it £29.99 (still more expensive than any DLC i know of...)
So is this just press discovery scanner button when you fly over the blip marked on the terrain and you find a starport/shipwrecks/minerals etc. Right exactly you have no idea yet. But going on how exploration works at the moment that is about as deep as it gets. But like i said we dont have specifics maybe you are reading a beta backers forum or something as you do seem to give the impression you know exactly how its all going to work.
Well do tell..dont keep us in suspense.
Heres the info i've got
Thats it. Thats £30 worth? Well i'm sceptical. Especially since when FD initially mentioned that yes they would do Planetary Landings but it would be about a year after launch..i'm pretty sure most people did not expect them to only deliver half the package but charge full price for each part. (so probably £30 for this part and £30 for the atmo planetary landings = £60) If someone says yeah Planetary Landings will be first major DLC you expect that to include all types of world not just airless. You dont expect them to suddenly say ohh yeah for that price we will do half of what you expect. We will do the next half probably a year later and that will also be full price DLC.
Anything i missed out?
Pardon? Where on earth did I say you were not allowed an opinion?
Sorry, the price point stands, it is £29.99 if you already have the game, £39.99 if you pre-order without owning the current game and bear in mind you will have to wait until Horizons is released before you get access at that point so it's not at all unacceptable get a heavily discounted first release a year after release. In point of fact the majority of MMO's not only charged a monthly fee but also did the exact same thing, a yearly full price expansion that contained all the previous expansions, otherwise they end up stopping new players as it would become prohibitively expensive to start playing if they had to purchase each expansion at full price separately. in regards to the limited time period, until that ends it's a moot point, nobody apart from FD has any idea of how long the discount is for.
No we don't have specifics and I may have misread your comments on that in which case I apologise, however we do have a fair bit of information regarding how it will work don't we, specifics will come later as it was evident during the twitch stream that they were still being worked out, your list is very incomplete though.
No, your list is not £30 worth, not even close, you're still missing the fact that planetary landings are just the lead feature in one release of the expansion's season, if we break it down the planetary landing aspect is probably a quarter (given that we have had four releases in the current season, five are slated though) of the expansion we will get for that £30 and not even the full quarter given it's only the lead aspect of Horizons1.0, £7.50 for it, I'm in thanks.
It has also been known for a long time that atmospheric landings would be separate, so they are giving me exactly what I expected, if you expected atmospheric entry and landings then you were misinformed.
I'll refrain from ending with a rolleyes as I may have been somewhat antagonistic in my posting and can only apologise for it, I'm not having a particularly good day and your post just managed to hit my the wrong way, sorry
Sorry, the price point stands, it is £29.99 if you already have the game, £39.99 if you pre-order without owning the current game and bear in mind you will have to wait until Horizons is released before you get access at that point so it's not at all unacceptable get a heavily discounted first release a year after release. In point of fact the majority of MMO's not only charged a monthly fee but also did the exact same thing, a yearly full price expansion that contained all the previous expansions, otherwise they end up stopping new players as it would become prohibitively expensive to start playing if they had to purchase each expansion at full price separately. in regards to the limited time period, until that ends it's a moot point, nobody apart from FD has any idea of how long the discount is for.
No we don't have specifics and I may have misread your comments on that in which case I apologise, however we do have a fair bit of information regarding how it will work don't we, specifics will come later as it was evident during the twitch stream that they were still being worked out, your list is very incomplete though.
No, your list is not £30 worth, not even close, you're still missing the fact that planetary landings are just the lead feature in one release of the expansion's season, if we break it down the planetary landing aspect is probably a quarter (given that we have had four releases in the current season, five are slated though) of the expansion we will get for that £30 and not even the full quarter given it's only the lead aspect of Horizons1.0, £7.50 for it, I'm in thanks.
It has also been known for a long time that atmospheric landings would be separate, so they are giving me exactly what I expected, if you expected atmospheric entry and landings then you were misinformed.
I'll refrain from ending with a rolleyes as I may have been somewhat antagonistic in my posting and can only apologise for it, I'm not having a particularly good day and your post just managed to hit my the wrong way, sorry
Doesn't bother me in the slightest tbh, lifetime subscription is turning out to be a bargain 
Not that i have played since PP due to it being quite rubbish As for planetary landings i could take it or leave it. From the current core gameplay i very much doubt it will have any actual depth and landing on a planet will be just like landing on large space station (the one with palm trees) fill up with fuel, sell some stuff and move along to the next one apart it will take 3 times longer than docking at a station.
Thats my negative take on the entire thing. Oh apart from the price... which is nothing $£40 is 2 or 3 trips to the movies or 12hrs entertainment if you are lucky.
If £40 is to expensive for a game then you really should be out improving yourself. Unless your disabled, if thats the case put a jumper on and save some gas. I bet COD updates throught the year lifetime amounts to the same price, if not more.
Not that i have played since PP due to it being quite rubbish
As for planetary landings i could take it or leave it. From the current core gameplay i very much doubt it will have any actual depth and landing on a planet will be just like landing on large space station (the one with palm trees) fill up with fuel, sell some stuff and move along to the next one apart it will take 3 times longer than docking at a station. Thats my negative take on the entire thing. Oh apart from the price... which is nothing $£40 is 2 or 3 trips to the movies or 12hrs entertainment if you are lucky.
If £40 is to expensive for a game then you really should be out improving yourself. Unless your disabled, if thats the case put a jumper on and save some gas. I bet COD updates throught the year lifetime amounts to the same price, if not more.
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Whether it's worth it or not depends how much you like the game and want to see its continued development. For me its a no brainer having loved the elite games since I was a kid. Handed over £30 the second it was announced. Yes the game lacks depth at the moment, but I enjoy it in the short bursts I get to play it. As long as development continues I'm confident it will end up being a great game.
I'm happy to pay £30 a year for continued updates and added content, especially as its the only game I really play these days.
I'm happy to pay £30 a year for continued updates and added content, especially as its the only game I really play these days.
Elite isnt an MMO not even near it. Only part of it is server based. Its p2p network so basically its client based which allows simple client based hacks to run wild. In an MMO we would have in game admins, decent chat implementation, official servers hosted by FD. The NPCS wouldnt outnumber the human players in the game (32 max players). We have a cheap hybrid version where only some assets are server based but the actual players are not. Its multiplayer but certainly should not be compared with MMOS (like Guild Wars, WoW etc) Elite just isnt in the same ballpark. Thats not to say Elite is bad...far from it.
I understand that Planetary Landings is 1/4 or 1/5 of the season. However big problem there. The other 3 or 4 updates will have to be integral to Planetary Landings. For instance it cant be something entirely different like Thargoids because what about all the players who didnt purchase it? Heres an example of what airless Planetary landings season 1 will probably be like.
1.6 Planetary Landings roll-out starting with being able to fly low level rock type moons/planets. Can also dock at some outposts to refuel etc on some of these.
1.7 Can now drive your buggy around on said surfaces and scan/pick up various artifacts on said surfaces
1.8 Surface Bases, Missions Powerplay integration.
1.9 or 2.0 Loot and Crafting Implementation of minerals and artifacts mined or found on planet surfaces.
These staged updates are not going to be things we haven't heard about i'm afraid.
So basically that list you posted...break that down into 4 or 5 stages and thats about it. Bearing in mind some of the things you posted we already have as part of the base game. I'm actually fine with that because the gameplay FD have in the base game i like anyway (notwithstanding certain ongoing tweaks to make certain gameplay aspects more enjoyable/profitable)
If you are hoping FD will have completely different things that we dont know about (ie they havent announced) for Horizons then you might be in for some disappointment.
I will redact totally what ive said
if it does turn out that FD will implement in full the Planetary Landings stuff in one update and the other season updates are extra stuff..if they do that i will be massively impressed and surprised!Yes it was known it would be staged implementation but do you have a link from at least 6 to 7 months ago that said that not only would Planetary Landings be broken up into airless and atmosphere landing environments but that they would charge full price for each? If so then yeah i will eat humble pie no problem. I haven't see it and a lot of people on the forums haven't either hence why quite a lot of threads on the main forums about this revelation.
No worries. If i'm seen as overly critical that's because i love the game lol. Yous should see how some of the folk on the FD forums are reacting..its like ultimate betrayal by FD haha
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Quick question if anyone knows. I'm a premium beta owner so I have the lifetime pass. I tried to go into the store and see if I could add Horizon at zero-bucks but there's no such an option (only normal price or beta). I get this as I don't have to do anything at all to have Horizon whenever it's out in beta. Anyone can confirm?
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@johnnystuff - You will get it (and beta) when it comes out.
THe Premium Beta (£80) has all of the game for evah.
THe Premium Beta (£80) has all of the game for evah.
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The way I see it is we are lucky to have this game at all. Elite 4 was destined never to see the light of day as no publisher would touch it as it isn't yet another cod clone which is all the masses play these days.
So be happy we even have a new elite game and keep supporting the project by buying the add ons or it will die and we will just be left with COD 10 extreme black ops modern warfare whiney brat edition.
So be happy we even have a new elite game and keep supporting the project by buying the add ons or it will die and we will just be left with COD 10 extreme black ops modern warfare whiney brat edition.
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Awesome thanks.
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I was happy paying £6 (or £9) a month for WoW - Extremely good value for money (0.085 pence per minute).
I would happily pay the expansion cost - Although users can still play the current game fine without it.
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Have to say, wish I'd bought premium beta rather than standard beta now
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I purchased the Alpha and dont regret it, although i am ready for further depth and content as ive said before
It might not be an MMO in the truest sense but it sure isn't single player either is it? Anyways, I was just making cost comparisons, MMO, single player or whatever, £30 a year is not really an issue. I think most of it comes down to perceived value, it's a funny thing games software, most of us think nothing of blowing £30 and far more on a single night at the pub, a good meal, a cinema trip etc etc yet a game that will give us many many more hours of entertainment is expensive at that price. I'm not pointing fingers, I do exactly the same and when I actually sit back and think about have to ask myself why
I think you are completely off the mark there, the store page lists this:
And as such that is what I expect (famous last words?) we shall get
I think you are completely off the mark there, the store page lists this:
And as such that is what I expect (famous last words?) we shall get
Sounds interesting,
I don't care much for the cost lol, I spent like £thousands on gfx cards, monitors, hotas, frigging rudder pedals, and a £20 mousemat!
if I get another couple of hundred hours out of it then it's all good... it could be pretty cool though!
I don't care much for the cost lol, I spent like £thousands on gfx cards, monitors, hotas, frigging rudder pedals, and a £20 mousemat!
if I get another couple of hundred hours out of it then it's all good... it could be pretty cool though!