*** The Official Elite: Dangerous Thread ***

Edit: oh dear....I just noticed your 'First Discovered by MORGAN GRIMES' logo. LOL, You are one of THEM! An Explorer!!! LOLOLOL Jesus Wept, how can you guys actually sit and do that stuff when there are freshly painted walls around in need of someone to oversee the drying process?

lol. This made me laugh. Yeah, I found exploring virually created world that are procidurally generated to be boring as hell also. Would be diferent if it was something they made and maybe you can land on worls or something.
 
If you are losing money doing stuff in game then you're doing it wrong, some professions might make less but to actually lose money? Nope, you're doing it wrong.
 
This is where some sort of storyline like in the X series would be nice. Some sort of history lesson to how you got to where you are now. And some general history of all the different races or governments etc.
 
Edit: oh dear....I just noticed your 'First Discovered by MORGAN GRIMES' logo. LOL, You are one of THEM! An Explorer!!! LOLOLOL Jesus Wept, how can you guys actually sit and do that stuff when there are freshly painted walls around in need of someone to oversee the drying process?

No, I just tend to do a bit of all sorts and decided that would make a nice sig, if something bores you don't do it. I'm sure you play plenty of games that would bore me and many others to tears too.

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Wow, this thread has gone rather nasty rather quickly.

RE: Big ships & trading.
I trade a bit, upgrade combat ship a bit, go killing things or PowerPlay.

Been exploring, was kinda cool, only made it half way to SagA and hot footed it back to play with new ships / patch.

If I only have a little time I'll do some trading, if I have quite a bit I'll kill things.
Planning on a Courier to do lots of missions quickly.

The game keeps me amused - Have GW2 for a different style when I feel like it :)
 
Is there nothing outside of the starting region then? You have 'populated space' and then 'everything else' which is just planets hanging in the void doing nothing?
 
Not played since power-play was introduced for all intense and purposes my Anaconda is just sat there in space, waiting for something exciting to happen.....

Elite is about credits, you cant do anything without credits. Sure you can lick the walls whilst travelling to the core, you can lick the walls whilst grinding for power-play (if there ever was a appalling system design in a game this is it) You can lick the walls travelling between 6 points, trading the same 3 goods in your available credit zone.

Mining should be the most profitable thing to do in game it simply is badly implemented 4 hr time sink to you realise its really better off licking walls....

Still I like the game for what it is but its simply not fun being penalised in anything you do bigger than a Asp in terms of credits and the significant amount of time required kit anything else out. A game should not be a full time job which is seemingly to me what Elite is atm. It just lacking in fun once the initial i need to do this for X amount of hrs with seemingly no progress apart from a credits going up.
 
So is Elite Dangerous still boring as hell, or have the finally shaped a good MMO game out of a decent arcade flight sim?
It's not supposed to be an MMO. Get that idea out of your head and you'll probably enjoy it more...

Also a little put off by the fact they are starting to release DLC at a higher price than the actual game. (game £29.99 - 1st dlc/'season' £39.99)
This is not DLC.
This is an entire expansion. Same as with Eve or WoW or whatever other things have expansions.

Elite Dangerous. About as much depth as a Puddle. A puddle the size of the Pacific mind you.
Yeah, but the forecast is heavy rain...!

Is there anyway to speed up supercruise? Jumping to some stations is taking well over 10 minutes, at the moment I'm flying towards Weinbaum City, and I'm dying of boredom. Console needs a Tetris game or something.
Full throttle, avoid flying near the gravity wells around other planets and stars. Pretty much it.
This is supposed to be to-scale, so there will be some stations and the like that are hours away from the nav point.
Mark them up and don't revisit those systems, if it's an issue. Alpha Centauri is like that, IIRC.

I had to abandon the journey to Weinbaum City, was taking so long that I nearly used up all my fuel. Had to jump to another station.
ALL your fuel?
Shouldn't have happened, especially on just a 10 minute trip in Super Cruise... You start out with a full tank before jumping in?
Most ships have hours worth of SC fuel, if not days!

Not at all...I just want to do something that is actually bloody interesting and/or with a point to it and not lose money doing so,
Like WHAT?
So many complaint about how XYZ is crap, yet no-one ever comes up with what would make it better and how to implement it...

because by losing money in the game, you are regressing in the game and won't be able to afford to run your spaceship.
It costs me 4mil to rebuy my Python, yet I seem perfectly capable of making many more millions to ensure I can always afford this several times over. If you're losing money, you're doing something wrong!

....and besides, as soon as you start getting into the BIG ships, then trading is the ONLY viable way to play the game. Anything else, will lose you money, so don't tell me that maximising profits isn't what the game is all about.
Big ship = big guns = high value targets = profit.

I would suggest you stop whining and go play Eve: Online... but I did actually sign up for a trial account there and that is boring as hell! It's like playing Freelancer on autopilot, mixed with rolling a D20 and trawling through my spreadsheets at work!
 
Well,

After getting a touch bored with the game (I was kind of stuck in a rut) I thought I'd give powerplay a bit of a go over the weekend, and now I understand it a bit better, I'm quite enjoying it. Currently in Sekh helping prevent one of our control systems being overthrown so playing the CZ minigame a lot.

Have also been doing a bit of undermining and merit farming. It's added a bit of depth for me, which is nice although I suspect the novelty will wear off at some point but by then it will be Christmas hopefully.

Also quite looking forward to the CQC as a bit of an occasional diversion.

One thing I can't understand is people who complain about "the grind" Do you want everything handed to you on a plate, right at the very beginning of the game?

There are many, many ways to progress in the game and measure your own success. It's not all about having the biggest ships!

My targets are:

1) Earn enough money to have a stable of ships for various professions
2) Get to Elite in Combat and Trade (exploring drives me mad - needs some meat on those bones)
3) Try pirating for a bit (no real progression marker for this one sadly unless you count bounties)
4) Rank up in all the major factions
5) Get to rank 5 for a bit in one of the PP powers
6) Maybe have a crack at mining (no real progression marker for this one sadly)

It's been a bit like a relationship really. It's all romance and glamour at the beginning, then the rut sets in, you get bored and start looking around for other things and then you realise you have to make some sort of effort if you want it to last and to get any pleasure out of it!
 
It's not supposed to be an MMO. Get that idea out of your head and you'll probably enjoy it more...

from official www.elitedangerous.com - What is Elite: Dangerous?
Elite: Dangerous is the definitive massively multiplayer space epic.

Am I missing something or the game is not what they actually advertise it is?

I dont have it, so I'm not going to argue with the rest of your post but what you said about EVE speaks for itslef...EVE has flaws, but it's a fantastic game.
 
from official www.elitedangerous.com - What is Elite: Dangerous?
Elite: Dangerous is the definitive massively multiplayer space epic.
Am I missing something or the game is not what they actually advertise it is?
Argument done to death - Very basic summary, ED does not have sufficient features common to MMOs for players to consider it thus.
Forthcoming features may well take it down that route, but aside from having lots of people online (with many more in Solo), there just isn't that level of interaction yet. The galaxy is too vast to even meet other players unless you're in the starting locations. I'm a mere 20Ly out (2 mins travel at best) in a High Tech system and trading hub, yet the only players I have seen in months are the three I wing up with.

EVE has flaws, but it's a fantastic game.
Yeah... if you're into 4-hour tutorials on just the basics, getting owned by big dock-camping corporations run by 12-year-olds and leaving all the really fun stuff like actually piloting your ship to some dull strategy/RPG mechanic, all while paying lots of money for the privilege... sure... I guess that might be fun for you.
I've yet to find a single EVE player who can tell me what is so fun about the game. I've only watched them as they all get more and more frustrated, despite being long-term players in big corps and claiming to be good at it... No fun being had on any of those channels!
 
Them releasing this add-on now, while the vanilla game is yet so hollow, doesn't inspire me with any confidence that this game will be anything but an empty space truck simulator, until the day it dies.
This is why I am a little disappointed, for a game that only came out under 9 months ago it's a really bad reflection on the company/product that they are now announcing a dlc expansion for the same price as the game :( also makes me skeptical that they will add anything for owners of the base game.

Also from some of the videos and streams I've seen the whole space truck simulator statement seems true.
A game should not be a full time job which is seemingly to me what Elite is atm. It just lacking in fun once the initial i need to do this for X amount of hrs with seemingly no progress apart from a credits going up.
Completely agree with this
This is not DLC.
It's not content that is downloadable from the internet :confused:
This is an entire expansion. Same as with Eve or WoW or whatever other things have expansions.
If you take WoW as an example, the first expansion came out 2 years after the game was released. (Elite Dangerous was released under 9 months ago?)

I really like the look of the game & the community around it seems pretty good (the websites for trading, youtube videos etc are nice)

From my point of view, I was thinking of getting it as an alternative to X3. (while also gaining the MMO aspects the website seems to promote/advertise)
from official www.elitedangerous.com - What is Elite: Dangerous?
Elite: Dangerous is the definitive massively multiplayer space epic.

Am I missing something or the game is not what they actually advertise it is?
Also I really like the idea of CQC as it would be something to jump into every now and again.
I feel quite fortunate that I didn't just buy the game in the weekend for £29.99 given the pricing of the expansion DLC.

I will probably wait and watch over the game until the expansion DLC comes out then decide whether to buy it.
 
Yeah... if you're into 4-hour tutorials on just the basics, getting owned by big dock-camping corporations run by 12-year-olds and leaving all the really fun stuff like actually piloting your ship to some dull strategy/RPG mechanic, all while paying lots of money for the privilege... sure... I guess that might be fun for you.
I've yet to find a single EVE player who can tell me what is so fun about the game. I've only watched them as they all get more and more frustrated, despite being long-term players in big corps and claiming to be good at it... No fun being had on any of those channels!

It doesn't have to be 'fun' to be enjoyed.

Played it for quite a few years and it has it flaws, the unique thing about EVE is that fleeting moment when your ship is on the line. Never had an adrenaline rush like that in a game before or after.
It's also the biggest problem, nobody wants to loose their **** so its all baiting and camping rubbish 95% of the time, players eventually get fed up trying to find the mystical 'good fights'

But there's so much depth to it it's staggering, the industry, player driven market and powerblocks across the galaxy controlled by corporations. If we could get even a fraction of what EVE offers into Elite:eek:
 
Well after spending a lot of the 3 day weekend on the budget T Flight stick (which again is great value for money) and ED it's made me realise that I do actually want to try a far better HOTAS package. So not for the first time this year, and after a moment of indulgence shopping, I have a new toy on route which should be here Thursday.
 
This is why I am a little disappointed, for a game that only came out under 9 months ago it's a really bad reflection on the company/product that they are now announcing a dlc expansion for the same price as the game :( also makes me skeptical that they will add anything for owners of the base game.

Improvements are being added, the missions system is a good example of something that will carry over to the base game.

Also from some of the videos and streams I've seen the whole space truck simulator statement seems true.

Stop watching trader streams...

If you take WoW as an example, the first expansion came out 2 years after the game was released. (Elite Dangerous was released under 9 months ago?)

WoW also charged monthly, Elite will have been out for a year when Horizons is released, that's a pretty normal timeframe for DLC.

I really like the look of the game & the community around it seems pretty good (the websites for trading, youtube videos etc are nice)

From my point of view, I was thinking of getting it as an alternative to X3. (while also gaining the MMO aspects the website seems to promote/advertise)

Also I really like the idea of CQC as it would be something to jump into every now and again.
I feel quite fortunate that I didn't just buy the game in the weekend for £29.99 given the pricing of the expansion DLC.

I will probably wait and watch over the game until the expansion DLC comes out then decide whether to buy it.

It would appear to be a good plan for anybody on the fence at this point to wait for Horizons.



It doesn't have to be 'fun' to be enjoyed.

Played it for quite a few years and it has it flaws, the unique thing about EVE is that fleeting moment when your ship is on the line. Never had an adrenaline rush like that in a game before or after.
It's also the biggest problem, nobody wants to loose their **** so its all baiting and camping rubbish 95% of the time, players eventually get fed up trying to find the mystical 'good fights'

But there's so much depth to it it's staggering, the industry, player driven market and powerblocks across the galaxy controlled by corporations. If we could get even a fraction of what EVE offers into Elite:eek:

EVE was a pretty empty shell on launch too, it's taken a long time for it to get to where it is now, 12 years long in fact so any comparison is going to be flawed unless you are talking about what EVE was 9 months after release, which unless I am recalling incorrectly was pretty bad and bug ridden. I'd imagine Elite is going to be substantially improved by the time it gets to being 12 years old, I just hope it gets the chance to continue being developed for the duration :)
 
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