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Good idea I have signed up as the info you guys provide over on gtforums is great. I can tell you now that it is a 7 pin connector 3 on top 4 on the bottom. Working on a photo if needed.
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Good idea I have signed up as the info you guys provide over on gtforums is great. I can tell you now that it is a 7 pin connector 3 on top 4 on the bottom. Working on a photo if needed.
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I thought the 2nd disc was like an extras disk, but it seems it has some cars and tracks on it.
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031109p1.html
For us with a HDD seems like a good option and i like the way you can select what to have installed or not. Surprised that if you dont install you cant use them, would have though just a disk swap would have been fine. If you have an Arcade or not much room on your HDD, it seems a bit daft that unless you free up space buy a new memory card/HDD you will be missing some of the game.
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031109p1.html
For us with a HDD seems like a good option and i like the way you can select what to have installed or not. Surprised that if you dont install you cant use them, would have though just a disk swap would have been fine. If you have an Arcade or not much room on your HDD, it seems a bit daft that unless you free up space buy a new memory card/HDD you will be missing some of the game.
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I think the tracks on disk 2 are the testing grounds and the snake tracks (king mamba etc) which not a lot of people raced on anyway. The cars part is more annoying but I will make space for the install.
Not very realistic then if turning off the gadgets makes you faster
I'm betting it doesn't. If you use the gadgets you should always be faster and be able to set faster lap times. It probably just takes a bit of practice.It won't matter as the leaderboards will reflect what your using just like in Forza 2.
On Disk 2
Road Racing Track Pack - 730.4 MB
Rally di Positano, Fujimi Kaido, Nurburgring Nordschleif
Funny it says 27 tracks on the disk and only list 3 tracks unless each has about 9 versions (cant see that), bolded the track most want to race on.
Not very realistic then if turning off the gadgets makes you faster
It won't matter as the leaderboards will reflect what your using just like in Forza 2.
Why would they make you faster?
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Well thats actually a significant loss of decent circuits then and not what I had read was included up until now. I hope they haven't broken the ring into lots of p2p races to get that number. Disk limitations is a definite down side of the 360 but I don't see what else turn 10 could do to provide us the content.
Not very realistic then if turning off the gadgets makes you faster
It won't matter as the leaderboards will reflect what your using just like in Forza 2.
For TCS/Stability, in cars like the mini, you need to be able to slide it around and get on the power early with a little 'slip/spin' to get the fastest lines, which would seem realistic.
The ABS though, well you can defo brake a little harder without it then with.. maybe it cuts in a fraction early on purpose to penalise you, without it, you can hear the wheels starting to lock a little right on the limit..
All the quickest times are with no aids whatsoever..
And I can't get to grips with using the clutch on manual gears (on the MS WHeel)! so I'm stuck with that for now..
Because no man will ever be able to make the corrections to a car as quickly or delicately as a computer. Hence the whole reason F1 went through a spell of electronic gadgets.
Then it's not accurate at all. More fun certainly though.
Because no man will ever be able to make the corrections to a car as quickly or delicately as a computer. Hence the whole reason F1 went through a spell of electronic gadgets.
Then it's not accurate at all. More fun certainly though.
I thought they just make things easier and safer. Not quicker.
It depends on how intrusive said gadgets are. Notice how high end super cars often have selectors for different 'modes' of traction control depending on what task it will be performing. The traction control on a F1 car would have been far more subtle than say, on an Audi TT (which has on or off). If the traction control is too overbearing then it will in fact slow you down in corners in favour of safety. I'm sure you've heard the cliche term 'the edge of grip', most commercial traction control systems will keep you well away from that for safety reasons, turning it off will allow the car to ultimately go around bends faster as it'll allow the car to get closer to the point at which it'll lose traction.
Ultimately it depends on the car and the system it employs, but i'd be willing to bet the vast majority of cars with traction control available to the public will in fact slow the car down in the hands of a highly skilled driver.
Things like ABS will always be beneficial as you are right in saying a computer can make subtle adjustments to the breaking to get every ounce of grip the tyres have in them.
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I thought they just make things easier and safer. Not quicker.
They make it quicker. BAR Honda once did a demonstration run to show the difference. The best start any of the drivers had ever been done manually was a light year away from being close to the best the computer could manage. No matter how good you are with the brakes you wont be able to apply the corrections an ABS system will. Hence the reason why teams try to find loopholes to keep using such systems.
Yes it's safer but it's much faster as well.
They make it quicker. BAR Honda once did a demonstration run to show the difference. The best start any of the drivers had ever been done manually was a light year away from being close to the best the computer could manage. No matter how good you are with the brakes you wont be able to apply the corrections an ABS system will. Hence the reason why teams try to find loopholes to keep using such systems.
Yes it's safer but it's much faster as well.
Are you talking about F1 systems or the ones found in normal cars?
I would have thought a good driver in a non ABS car would be able to stop quicker.
No, you are focusing on the wrong 'gadget' tbh, take a look at my post above. ABS will always be beneficial, but traction control however will often slow a car down.
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Because no man will ever be able to make the corrections to a car as quickly or delicately as a computer. Hence the whole reason F1 went through a spell of electronic gadgets.
Then it's not accurate at all. More fun certainly though.
You are thinking F1, we are talking street cars
On my own car, it's quicker with Traction/Stability turned off, they intervene too much when you push it at/slightly over the limit, and you can see when hot-lapping in the lower cars (for example) that you can carry more speed through some corners with a little understeer/wheel slip..
ABS, I would agree, although most ABS does kick in slightly too early, it won't allow the wheels to be on a partial 'lock' and when it modulates it's actually quite ineffective at stopping compared to maintaing peak grip on deceleration as it is an on/off action that is being applied....
So, although I agree that in extreme cases like F1 and top end sport, then absolutely, the driver cannot beat the electronics, but on lesser cars/series (BTCC as an example), assists would slow them down..
Do you not agree?
No, for maximum deceleration, you don't want ABS to cut in... it's on/off action makes stopping distances longer...
Of course, that is if you can threshold brake correctly..