***The Official HTC Sensation thread***

As said before, if people like a certain phone more than the other no problem! :)

However a bit more detail/info as to why that is the case and not just "oh it feels cheap, light" etc. would be nice, like the way you explained above as opposed to your last post.

I like the galaxy nexus more than the GS 2 due to stock android, the JESUS SCREEN! Official google phone, yet quite a few people much prefer the GS 2 because it has a slightly better camera, slightly better GPU, SD card.

However what I don't get is that you know there is a better mobile on the market for not much more and is better in every way except "perceived quality" and the stock software can be discussed about non-stop as they are both good in their own ways.

And "build quality" is very different to "perceived quality", there is no denying that the GS 2 has much better "build quality" than the sensation whilst the sensation has better "perceived quality".

And what happens if you are out one day walking down the street and you pull your mobile out of your pocket and accidentally drop it onto the hard concrete ground? Unless you have a case, the sensation is going to get battered a lot more due to the build quality, materials used than the GS 2.

More RAM, greater multi tasking and would be more useful on the HTC mobiles since sense uses a lot of resources.

As for speed/smoothness, yes speed/snappiness wise they are more or less the same, however the GS 2 is without a doubt buttery smooth in everything where as with the sensation, it isn't one bit especially when web browsing. And this is very important to me personally and is one of the reasons why the iphones are very popular as well.

However when you post this:

[TW]Fox;20780677 said:
People tend to get really hung up on little details that in the real world mean very little and then inflate them into huge issues with plenty of hyperbole and end up losing sight of what these devices are actually like on a day to day basis rather than on a PDF spec list or a test bench.

When I chose it I knew that almost never would I go 'Hmm, I wish I'd had the marginally quicker processor of the Galaxy S2, it would really enhance my experience' yet every time I picked it up I'd go 'Hmm, I wish I didnt have such a plasticy phone' had I picked the S2.

That gives the impression that there is virtually no difference between the 2, when that really isn't the case at all, not just from my point of view, but many other people, not just on this forum, but a lot of others and according to pretty much all the expert reviews and plus you could have worded it better.

And there is a difference in real world, the stuff that I listed you notice just by daily usage. Benchmarks I don't care about etc.

And yes I know that is a couple of the main reasons why you didn't get the GS 2, however personally for me even if my main uses were the same as you (and most of them are) and after having had a play with both devices for more than 5 mins, I honestly could not take a sensation over the GS 2, maybe if I weren't as tech minded like the majority of us here and just an average joe then the sensation would appeal to me more due to the sense UI looking all fancy and colourful etc.
 
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However what I don't get is that you know there is a better mobile on the market for not much more and is better in every way except "perceived quality" and the stock software can be discussed about non-stop as they are both good in their own ways.

It was the same price as my Sensation but price wasn't part of the equation.

Perceived quality as my key purchase driver.

And "build quality" is very different to "perceived quality", there is no denying that the GS 2 has much better "build quality" than the sensation whilst the sensation has better "perceived quality".

I prefer perceived quality to build quality. I need my phone to last 12 months. If it falls to bits in Month 13, I'm good with that. It's the same reason I drive a car which every so often throws me a repair bill, but has a fantastic quality interior. It's just how I prefer to do things.

And what happens if you are out one day walking down the street and you pull your mobile out of your pocket and accidentally drop it onto the hard concrete ground? Unless you have a case, the sensation is going to get battered a lot more due to the build quality, materials used than the GS 2.

I'll buy a new shell for it, or if its properly broken, I'll just buy a new phone? Same thing I'd do if I broke anything else I own :confused:

Should I buy a Smart ForTwo because it has easily replcable plastic panels instead of those pesky metal wings, incase I crash?

More RAM, greater multi tasking and would be more useful on the HTC mobiles since sense uses a lot of resources.

It might be useful to you, but since I've yet to have any issues with RAM or speed its obviously the case that for what I use my phone for, it wouldn't be any more useful for me.

As for speed/smoothness, yes speed/snappiness wise they are more or less the same, however the GS 2 is without a doubt buttery smooth in everything where as with the sensation, it isn't one bit especially when web browsing.

Never noticed it. I'm not going to get bent of shape over inferiority I've never noticed.

I picked the phone that suited me best in the real world. That phone was the HTC Sensation. And it trends continue as they are my next phone will be HTC as well. I don't care how good something is, I cannot stand plasticy phones.
 
This is all redundant now if your willing to click one button to root the device. Having used both phones this is my summary.

CPU: Sensation / Overclocked at 1.78ghz stable the Sensation has the edge in benchmarks.
Display: Sensation / QHD Resolution and better colour accuracy. GS2 has better blacks and colour vibrance; the Sensations's are not awful by any means.
Build Quality: Sensation / Much better to hold and has a premium feel.
Price: Sensation Considerabley cheaper.

Internal Storage: GS2 / GS2 16/32/64gb vs Sensation's 4gb. I've lots of apps on my phone and have 800mb left. With SD cards, I can't imagine you would require so much internal storage.
Memory: GS2 / 1gb over the Sensations 768mb.
Camera: GS2 / I've not tested this myself but reviews say the GS2 has the better camera.

GPU: Tie / Pretty even I'm sure.
UI Smoothness: Tie / Sensation now has Hardware GPU Acceleration, and matches the GS2 for "buttery" smoothness. The latest roms are very stable and consistant now.
Battery: Tie / Huge improvement using the Bricked kernel. Spend £15 on a 1950mah battery and 1 1/2 days is very achievable.

When the Sensation is rooted, the GS2's has no immediately noticeable main advantages in real world use. I've never ran out of ram with Android. So much Internal Storage is not needed, 4GB (1gb user apps) is plenty for even the guy who downloads 100's of apps, this is not even including SD cards.

Anyone would be an idiot to take Internal Storage / 256mb of extra ram over a QHD resolution display. For that main reason is why I would rate Sensation over the GS2.
 
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This is all redundant now if your willing to click one button to root the device. Having used both phones this is my summary.

CPU: Sensation / Overclocked at 1.78ghz stable the Sensation has the edge in benchmarks.
Display: Sensation / QHD Resolution and better colour accuracy. GS2 has better blacks and colour vibrance; however the Sensations's are by no means catastrophic.
Build Quality: Sensation Much better to hold and has a premium feel.
Internal Storage: GS2 / GS2 16/32/64gb vs Sensation's 4gb. I've lots of apps on my phone and have 800mb left. With SD cards, I can't imagine you would require so much internal storage.
Memory: GS2 / 1gb over the Sensations 768mb.
GPU: Tie / Pretty even I'm sure.
UI Smoothness: Tie / Sensation now has Hardware GPU Acceleration, and matches the GS2 for "buttery" smoothness. The latest roms are very stable and consistant now.
Battery: Tie / Huge improvement using the Bricked kernel. Spend £15 on a 1950mah battery and 1 1/2 days is very achievable.

When the Sensation is rooted, the GS2's main advantages now are not very obvious in the real world, I've never ran out of ram with Android. So much Internal Storage is not needed, 4GB (1gb user apps) is plenty for even the guy who downloads 100's of apps, this is not even including SD cards.

I can honestly say the GS2 can't do anything better than my Sensation that is immediately obvious. Anyone imo would be an idiot to take Internal Storage / 256mb extra ram which wouldn't be noticeable over a QHD resolution display.

What about when the two are stock?

Im thinking of buying one of these two phones. Initially was going to go for the HTC, as I like the look of it, but having now seen that the GS2 has a far better benchmark score than the Sensation as well as being amazingly light, my head has been turned towards the GS2.
 
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I can honestly say the GS2 can't do anything better than my Sensation that is immediately obvious. Anyone imo would be an idiot to take Internal Storage / 256mb extra ram which wouldn't be noticeable over a QHD resolution display.

Not to thread trash but I can think of one immediate thing, colours and blacks. No other screen out there looks asvibrant or gives a "whoah" factor than an AMOLED screen and when used in the dark especially with a phone that's all black as well it looks even cooler/modern.
 
What about when the two are stock?

Im thinking of buying one of these two phones. Initially was going to go for the HTC, as I like the look of it, but having now seen that the GS2 has a far better benchmark score than the Sensation as well as being amazingly light, my head has been turned towards the GS2.

The GPU on both phones are very close. They say Sensations just edges it on paper.

The Sensation when overclocked stable to 1.78ghz would edge GS2 overclock in benchmarks.
 
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Not to thread trash but I can think of one immediate thing, colours and blacks. No other screen out there looks asvibrant or gives a "whoah" factor than an AMOLED screen and when used in the dark especially with a phone that's all black as well it looks even cooler/modern.

Colours are more vibrant yes but not as accurate.
Blacks are not that bad on the Sensation.

Resolution is so much more of an advantage than nicer blacks.

I would want nice blacks on a 46" TV, not really a big issue on a mobile device.
 
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Horses for courses. AMOLED looks nicer than any LCD based screen, Retina included. I;ve had all these phones next to each other on the table and everyone agrees but if you're dead set on one specific handset then that's personal preference.

My own choice would be the power of the S2 (this includes internal storage AND external SD card capabilities) with the screen of the Nexus but that's not possible now so will await the S3.

There is a reason why the S2 has sold so well in every country to date while the Sensation hasn't hence why HTC have had to out several versions to punch in some extra sales.
 
I don't mean to keep taking issue with your posts but you are a bit Sensation-happy at times.

CPU: Sensation / Overclocked at 1.78ghz stable the Sensation has the edge in benchmarks.

Are you sure about that? What benchmarks are those? Why do they really matter?

Build Quality: Sensation / Much better to hold and has a premium feel.

The S2 is definitely a better put-together phone. You're right about the premium feel though.

Camera: GS2 / I've not tested this myself but reviews say the GS2 has the better camera.

Yes, it's quite a lot better actually. The Sensation camera is acceptable though.

GPU: Tie / Pretty even I'm sure.

I don't think it is. The S2 is still quite a bit faster, not that it really matters.

UI Smoothness: Tie / Sensation now has Hardware GPU Acceleration, and matches the GS2 for "buttery" smoothness. The latest roms are very stable and consistant now.

No. It is not tied. The Sensation still isn't as smooth as the S2. It's certainly an improvement over stock, but to suggest it's now tied is simply wrong.

Battery: Tie / Huge improvement using the Bricked kernel. Spend £15 on a 1950mah battery and 1 1/2 days is very achievable.

Buy the extended battery for the S2 and you're back to square one.

When the Sensation is rooted, the GS2's has no immediately noticeable main advantages in real world use. I've never ran out of ram with Android. So much Internal Storage is not needed, 4GB (1gb user apps) is plenty for even the guy who downloads 100's of apps, this is not even including SD cards.

Surely that depends on your use? What if you use the camera/video quite a lot? Or you like to install fairly large game files that eat up that app space?

Anyone would be an idiot to take Internal Storage / 256mb of extra ram over a QHD resolution display. For that main reason is why I would rate Sensation over the GS2.

What a bizarre statement.

Oh, and before you tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, I own and have used both of these phones extensively over the past few months. Not a quick go on a table, on my mates one or in a phone shop. :)

The Sensation is excellent, but unless you're thinking along the same lines as [TW]Fox, you can't really argue beyond HTC Sense and the premium feel, because the S2 takes it - comfortably.

What about when the two are stock?

Im thinking of buying one of these two phones. Initially was going to go for the HTC, as I like the look of it, but having now seen that the GS2 has a far better benchmark score than the Sensation as well as being amazingly light, my head has been turned towards the GS2.

Do benchmarks honestly bother you, honestly? :confused:
 
@Johnnytoxic

Just going to echo what mrk and robbo said.

Also I am talking about out of the box/stock rom, not all modded kernels etc. and since you seem to have compared a modded sensation to a stock GS 2, it isn't really fair, because I BET you that if you where to do the same to the GS 2, every where you have said the sensation is better regarding speed etc. would then be better on the GS 2 if modded.

So stock VS stock most of your points there are irrelevant since you are comparing stock GS 2 to a modded sensation.

And as said that comment:

Anyone would be an idiot to take Internal Storage / 256mb of extra ram over a QHD resolution display. For that main reason is why I would rate Sensation over the GS2.

Is just stupid and TBPH screams HTC fanboy to me.

All very well QHD res, but when the overall quality looks crap IMO to the GS 2 screen then it is worthless, IMO the colours on the sensation look washed out (not as bad as the DHD) and this is not just comparing side by side but by themselves for more than 10 mins of usage.

As for benchmarks, all I can say is lol, they mean nothing, real world usage is more important, can have the highest epeen number and the mobile could feel laggy in actual use or you can have a mobile that has a much lower quadrant score than another mobile but feel just as smooth and faster if not better than the mobile that has the higher quadrant score.
 
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To be honest, the qHD res doesn't really add anything to the experience for the most part. When browsing the (small) difference is only noticeable in portrait mode and most people use landscape for that anyway.

You do notice it on things like the Android Market though, which is nice.
 
True robbo!

And I personally can't see how just because the sensation has a higher res screen makes it the much better display considering SAMOLED+ is better overall for pretty much everything else (my listed reasons on the last page as to what they are).

Also forgot to mention about pricing, don't know about now as I CBA to go looking :p, but when the HTC S and GS 2 were pretty much new iirc the difference in price for paying out right was only like £20 or something, so not "much cheaper" and were the contracts for the HTC S not actually dearer than the GS 2?

And don't forget on paper and in real world terms the GS 2 is the better mobile overall compared to the sensation, so therefore it qualifies the extra cost over the Sensation ;)
 
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UI Smoothness:

No. It is not tied. The Sensation still isn't as smooth as the S2. It's certainly an improvement over stock, but to suggest it's now tied is simply wrong.

Have you used the latest bricked kernel and ARHD rom? I've compared both GS2 and Sensation side by side and both are silky smooth, menu navigation and webpages. Cannot see any noticeable difference.

The Sensations blacks/colours are not bad at all. I cannot understand how people can prefer the GS2's display because of smidge better blacks and colour vibrance. Even more crazy on a mobile phone where you don't really need the black of blacks.

A phone is meant to be a productivity tool not a cinematic experience. Thus I consider with a phone, resolution to be of upmost importance, ( web browsing, remote desktoping etc ). When I use a GS2 now it feels like the equivalent of going back to 800x600 for a PC monitor. It's just frustrating, that the phone never got it's just deserts due to it's stock rep.


@TW-Fox: just wondering, have you rooted and changed the rom/kernel on your phone? I was amazed with the battery life improvement when I changed to bricked kernel.
 
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Have you used the latest bricked kernel and ARHD rom? I've compared both GS2 and Sensation side by side and both are silky smooth, menu navigation and webpages. Cannot see any noticeable difference.

The Sensations blacks/colours are not bad at all. I cannot understand how people can prefer the GS2's display because of smidge better blacks and colour vibrance. Even more crazy on a mobile phone where you don't really need the black of blacks.

A phone is meant to be a productivity tool not a cinematic experience. Thus I consider with a phone, resolution to be of upmost importance, ( web browsing, remote desktoping etc ). When I use a GS2 now it feels like the equivalent of going back to 800x600 for a PC monitor. It's just frustrating, that the phone never got it's just deserts due to it's stock rep.


@TW-Fox: just wondering, have you rooted and changed the rom/kernel on your phone? I was amazed with the battery life improvement when I changed to bricked kernel.

Yes, I've tried those. I'm not even arguing the Sensation is slow to start with, it doesn't need all this defending.

However, when you start bringing benchmarks into it and banging on about kernels and ROMs, obviously these comparisons will be made.
 
I ordered a Sensation XE recently from Dialaphone and it was supposed to arrive today but I received an email saying it's delayed and after logging in to the website I see the status is ATF Failed or something which I've read means out of stock.

I got an email about it saying will be despatched on the 21st instead but today after logging in it says will be despatched on the 19th but it looks like that "update" occurred just because I logged in to the Dialaphone website lol.

It's for my wife and it would be nice if we received it before Christmas but I'm leaning towards unlikely to appear before Christmas unless anyone can shed some light on this type of situation that will give me some hope? :D
 
From a support perspective (and thas't what I do) both phones generate almost identical support calls from customers, both in quantity and issues.
The issues (and perceived faults) are, in the majority customer based issues not phone hardware or software issues. both phone are very solid performers and I would bet that dropping either of them onto a corner would produce the same faults.

As most customers, have no real idea about the quality or performance of there smart phone/lap top/ PC/ car/ TV, need I go on.

Then the issues here are mainly about what 1 person prefers over another, as despite the better performance of the GS2 the difference in real world usage is almost negiable. The difference is only noticable (imho) in bright sunlight, as HTC are behind the curve there.

I have the Sensation and choose it over the GS2, why, well I like HTC sense, the feel of their phones, the ability to flash custom Roms, my dislike of Samsung support, the poor quality of their support tools, the fact that on average software is not as good as HTC (look at the recent and ongoing issues with the Ace)

Overall as a user the HTC overall package has very few flaws, the Samsung just slightly more.

However to confirm, the GS2 the better phone.

I have very little IPhone experience on the 4s so can't add anything of value there :)

Users who are more knowledgeable tend to pick faults to justify their own decisions to or not to buy :)
 
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