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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

Jono8 said:
I don't think the whole "clock for clock" thing really matters when it is looking like you will be able to get custom pre OC cards at 2.4ghz (if the rumours of the Gigabyte G1 being clocked at that are true)!

Pascal is clearly designed to run at very high clock speeds, where as to get anywhere near even the stock 1080 clock on a 980ti you will need LN2.
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I hope this is true and pascal can OC crazy. It will likely mean 1070 will end up being better than the 980Ti in every way :D
 
deFiniLoGy said:
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

I thought you weren't gonna comment again until reviews are out?
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Lol. Another one that can't seem to read. That was regarding the sale price of the second hand 980Ti...

We are talking about how much pascal will OC here :confused:


Mic drop, BOOOM! :p

To quote easyrider: "Next!" Lol ;)
 
geordiejc said:
Wish the 17th would hurry itself up!

My predictions:

1070 (OC) on par with 980 Ti reference.
1080 Founders > 980 Ti Reference by 25%

I don't believe that pascal is less efficient and slower clock for clock than maxwell either.
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No I think they meant it is slower than a 980ti clock for clock, which makes sense as the 980ti has more cores, more rops etc. But pascal will be an improvement compared to a maxwell with the same specs (2560 / 64 etc.)
 
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It is also irrelevant co aliens to clock because nvidia developed a brand new architecture that could reach higher clocks.

You pretty much have to mind design choice:
Do more work per clock cycle but having a longer critical path means slower clocks.
Do less work per clock but crank up the clock speeds.

Pascal is a move to the 2nd methodology. Pascal might have a lowr IPC, but it does have fewer cores anyway, but it has been design to achive mcuh higher clocks. As a consumer the only thing you care about is performance,e not how it is achieved.

Anyone who is arguing that pascal has an equal or lower IPC than Maxwell and thus is just maxwell on 16mm and not very exciting is either completely ignorant of processor deign, or an AMD fan boy.
 
D.P. said:
It is also irrelevant co aliens to clock because nvidia developed a brand new architecture that could reach higher clocks.

You pretty much have to mind design choice:
Do more work per clock cycle but having a longer critical path means slower clocks.
Do less work per clock but crank up the clock speeds.

Pascal is a move to the 2nd methodology. Pascal might have a lowr IPC, but it does have fewer cores anyway, but it has been design to achive mcuh higher clocks. As a consumer the only thing you care about is performance,e not how it is achived.
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I don't think it is anything to do with the architecture and more to do with the node shrink and the density they have the part made at. consider that gp104 has 7.2billion transistors in 314mm^2 16nm compared to 8billion for gm100 at 601mm^2 28nm. That either means TSMC are getting nowhere near the 50% die shrink or Nvidia have made the part very sparse to give it a better thermal characteristic and/or so they can use it as a safety measure while the node is still young.

If they were pushing on double density then Gp104 should be 270 - 280mm^2.

Taking he above into account, if AMD are pushing for density and considering that 14nm is about 5 - 10% denser than 16nm from previous apple chip comparisons, then the rumoured 232mm^2 polaris part could have pushing on 6.2 - 7 billion transistors.
 
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Absorbentsolid said:
Brother wants to order a 1080, When do they become available for preorder.
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hyperseven said:
well on my calendar I have to put out my pink and black lidded 'wheelie bins'.
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Do you really have pink wheelie bins?

Also the pixel fillrate on the 1080 is about the same as the titan X, but the texture fillrate is 40% higher, texture fillrate makes more difference in new games?
 
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Jono8 said:
I don't think the whole "clock for clock" thing really matters when it is looking like you will be able to get custom pre OC cards at 2.4ghz (if the rumours of the Gigabyte G1 being clocked at that are true)!

Pascal is clearly designed to run at very high clock speeds, where as to get anywhere near even the stock 1080 clock on a 980ti you will need LN2.
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Obviously, but I was comparing 980 vs 980Ti here to put into context gain percentages.

Jono8 said:
Also, stock vs stock a 980 Ti is ~30% faster than a 980. Not 40%
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That may be, but it's not exactly a massive difference to my example. Would mean a final score of 156 vs 170, which isn't as impressive, but not worlds apart.
 
Couple things stood out:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 also brings new technology called Fast Sync. We can’t give you any details right now, but judging from the graphs, this technology allows much faster frame rendering (30-40ms) compared to Vsync (90-110 ms). My understanding is that this technology is trying to bring better user experience in VR by replacing VSync.
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Also it has HDMI 2.0b too, as well as the DP1.4.
 
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