The Official Prometheus (Alien Prequel) Thread

I think it's supposed to be more of an "easter egg" than anything. One of the concept artists also talked about it on the extras disc and was suggesting to have Weyland be accompanied by a group of bodyguards, one having the name 'Batty'.
 
anyone else got this on bluray? trying to watch it in 3d and it keeps crashing out at the same points, if i skip past them its fine i can keep watching till it crashes again, then skip it a few seconds forward and carry on.. am watching it on my pc using samsung external bluray.
 
I like his confirmation of Deckard as a replicant there. I always hear that Ford thought he was human though, so with that in mind is it likely he'll come back if the character has, in his eyes, become something else entirely?
 
R0B75 said:
I watched Prometheus on Blu Ray and I enjoyed it more than I did at the cinema. I don't know why, maybe just the expectation at the time was too high.

Anyway, I watched the deleted and alternate scenes afterwards, but I didn't feel that any of them would add anything to the film if you consider there is going to be a sequel. I agree with Ridley Scott, as it is, the film is complete. I'd still like to see an extended cut at some point, but I don't feel its necessary.
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having just watched the deleted scenes i think yeah they arent needed, there are some bits in them i think would keep some people happy, although tbh its pretty easy to explain those by other reasons, but overall i can see why they werent included. The engineer scene told me nothing tbh, i had already thought thats pretty much how it went. I enjoyed the film the first time round ( apart from the best efforts of the unpleasent ape in the row infront who drank beer, crunched popcorn and burped constantly) and enjoyed it even better the second time round, even the editing which i thought was poor at first seems fine having watched it a second time, i guess there was too much to take in the first time and it felt rushed, now i've had peace to watch it alone i found it much better and have picked up on a lot more the second time round. So really i agree its pretty much as it should be.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
Script wise, the bunch of scientists were awful, not following any scientific protocol on the trillion dollar mission, it just doesn't make any sence at all.
So many holes, aliens that didn't make sence, scenes that didn't make sence either.

I was very let down by this film.
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whilst i admit they arent the most scientific bunch, and tbh it would be a very different film had they rocked up and put the whole thing in quarantine whilst a bunch of white coats bumbled about testing things... yawn i might just have died with boredom.... if you like aliens ( not saying you do just using it as an example) then why is no one tearing that film apart for the rather rag tag bunch of misfits and unproffesional marines that made up the group, nevermind that gorman had only done two combat drops.... no wait one was simulated.. whatever.

Also if alien/aliens were released today would we be tearing it apart because they travelled far into space and found a alien race that just happened to be the perfect design for fitting on a human head, and perfectly compatible with the human physiology in knowing to jump right for the mouth and be completely compatible with its survival needs. Probably, seems rather convienient. To me Prometheous ties this altogether really well whilst opening up loads of possibility's, these things fit together nicely when you consider that they all possibly came from the same origin. Many of today's scientists believe that life began in space and arrived to earth via asteroids, replace asteroids with "engineers" and no evolution was not forgotten in the film, but its just a different idea to the origins of the origin of evolution.
 
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The point in Aliens, is they sent a rubbish team, with an inexperienced officer who had been handpicked, so the military bioweapons division would have maximum chance of gaining an actual alien, from an infected host.
They didn't send in their best team.

Prometheus would have been a very different film if they had stuck to some semblence of scientific thinking. You would have had slow progression into the ruin, suspense would have been built.
The geologist mapmaker would have been able to find his way around, until caught in a blind panic while abushed, rather than dandering around not having a clue where he is with a map on his sleeve!
Basic quarrantine would have built suspense, and led to the agenda's of people coming to the fore in a more incidious and stealthy manner, rather than here have a drink of naught alien juice so we can... oh wait, we've no idea why he did that yet, just that he did it after a conversation with his sleeping father. We can guess, but it isn't clear.

The ship crew on the trillion dollar mission all seemed to come from the lower percentiles of junior school, it wasn't a company action to send the worse, these were actually meant to be the best, you could have portrayed them as such, had some conversations which did a little bit of explaining, or them attempting to explain the actions as things progressed, and so on. Then had them cut down, with backstabbing, with aliens, with weather events.

As for tearing alien apart, in alien 3 the facehugger bred with a dog, thsu why it had differetn characteristics, legs to grab and a chut to deliver an egg alongside some form of biological anaesthetic is capable of knocking out most stuff on this planet, you don't have to vary it much - and now we know it had been specifically built for us, build to kill us, wipe us out, as the engineers had enough of us.
 
did they say that in aliens though, about the marines? its been a while since i've seen it but i thought they made it pretty clear they were supposed to be the best of the best. It was burks choice to release the facehuggers to infect ripley and newt, i doubt given burke's rather cowardly nature he'd have signed up to a long trip where he intended to infect the entire crew and his best chance of survival should it all go wrong.

I'll give you the lack of scientific thinking, but i think it would have made the film too long, and the characters might have been a bit flat had they all been by the books types, although some of the characters didnt work that well anyway. I never saw this film as a suspense thriller anyway more an adventure/mystery so the lack of suspense never came into it for me. why david go's about things the way he did is something open to interpritation however he has been tasked with advancing things by weyland who ultimatly has very little time to acheive what he went for, david asks holloway for permission to do it by asking him what he'd do to find the answers, to which he answers anything, allowing david to give him the black goo, not really that complicated, its not entirely dissimilar to what burke tried to do in aliens.

as for the dog in alien 3, well its got two ends that would work by your description but it still knew to go for the mouth and not the anus, although lol, that again might have been a very different film!. Dog's evolved on earth, presumably as a result of the engineers dna meddling just like the humans did, so again fits nicely.
 
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ianh said:
IIRC face-huggers are attracted to CO2 which is why they go for our mouths, if we breathed through our bums Alien would be a very different film :D
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lol yeah i'm giggling thinking about the consequences of that! :D

anyway this is what i mean its very convenient that they do that given there initially seems to be no relation between humans, dogs and the aliens, is it just pot luck that they detect co2, and we breath it out?, what if they had come from somewhere like titan hehe, but if you suppose they are all the result of the same evolutionary engineering run amock then it makes sense
 
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Zuban said:
Also if alien/aliens were released today would we be tearing it apart because they travelled far into space and found a alien race that just happened to be the perfect design for fitting on a human head, and perfectly compatible with the human physiology in knowing to jump right for the mouth and be completely compatible with its survival needs. Probably, seems rather convienient. To me Prometheous ties this altogether really well whilst opening up loads of possibility's, these things fit together nicely when you consider that they all possibly came from the same origin. Many of today's scientists believe that life began in space and arrived to earth via asteroids, replace asteroids with "engineers" and no evolution was not forgotten in the film, but its just a different idea to the origins of the origin of evolution.
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The problem with Prometheus is that it's a TERRIBLY WRITTEN film. It doesn't preserve the verisimilitude of the universe; there are inconsistencies in the way characters act and react to events which take place in the film, and therefore opens itself up to all kinds of criticism. The first two, arguably three, Alien films don't suffer from this affliction.

Furthermore, when people actually have to use extra diagetic sources to complete the flaws in the script it instantly becomes clear that the film is heavily flawed.
 
i dont find the writing bad tbh, putting it in block capitals wont change my mind on that but some specifics might.

what exactly are you reffering to as other sources to complete the flaws? also what are the flaws?. btw, i dont see the flaws, hence the question.

actually dont bother i've looked back through this thread at your other posts. difference of opinion but i dare say you have ruined this film for yourself.
 
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just watched all the deleted scenes

they would have stopped a lot of the complaints if they had left them in

things like shaw being in pain after the c-section

however all they did was confirm exactly what id already assumed about why people do certain things act a certain way etc...


I think its an excellent film, problem is people need to learn to suspend their disbelief
 
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gettothechopper said:
just watched all the deleted scenes

they would have stopped a lot of the complaints if they had left them in

things like shaw being in pain after the c-section

however all they did was confirm exactly what id already assumed about why people do certain things act a certain way etc...


I think its an excellent film, problem is people need to learn to suspend their disbelief
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that was exactly what i thought aswell :) although shaw was clearly in pain for the rest of the film, but for a start she grabbed two pain killer injectors before leaving the room, and some time later was dropping some chunky looking pills when she was suiting up to go back out. People after c section are encouraged to walk as soon as possible, same as other ops in that area, often its the anasthetic thats the problem, assuming medicine has advanced during the 80 years between now and then its not so unreasonable, also as david pointed out, she has a strong survival instinct.
 
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Zuban said:
i dont find the writing bad tbh, putting it in block capitals wont change my mind on that but some specifics might.

what exactly are you reffering to as other sources to complete the flaws? also what are the flaws?. btw, i dont see the flaws, hence the question.

actually dont bother i've looked back through this thread at your other posts. difference of opinion but i dare say you have ruined this film for yourself.
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I didn't ruin this film for myself. Damon Lindelof's rubbish writing did that plenty for me.
 
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