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Journey · 24 Apr 2011 at 11:33

estebanrey said:
I'd tell them, if I was being mugged. FOLLOWED by loads more nonsense.

Seriously? I mean, you should really do some reading before you decide to post such uninformed tripe. :rolleyes:

Robbo as he has already said, although is part of the Carphone Warehouse group of stores, it is still in direct competition with them and all the other contract providers, including P4U and so on. The reason their stock in unlocked and unbranded is so they can then sell what ever stock they have on what ever network the customer needs, or indeed sell them SIM free.

Good luck thinking some one who is nicking your £500 smart phone gives a carp if it's locked or not, they just unlock it change the IMEI and sell it down the pub or what ever for £100.

"Nooo don't take my phone it's locked and your SIM won't work in it, then who'll look like the fool!!!"

TheVoice · 24 Apr 2011 at 11:46

estebanrey said:
I just feel the whole 'unbranded' and 'unlocked' thing is a bit of a sacred cow for some people that's all. For example very few people change their branded booting splash screens on their PCs but when it come o their phone, seeing a brand name suddenly becomes an issue.

It's network branding that is the issue. It's the phone-based equivalent of the rubbish bloatware and toolbars that PCs come pre-installed with. All it does is harms the user's end experience.

DIABLO · 24 Apr 2011 at 11:47

I think estebanrey should leave the talking to people who actually have a clue.

PraxxtorCruel · 24 Apr 2011 at 12:54

Can someone confirm that the only two carriers that offer truly unlimited internet, are giff-gaff and talk mobile?

londonbairn · 24 Apr 2011 at 13:08

Buymobilephones are factory sourced from Samsung and identical to a sim free sku.

snapdragon · 24 Apr 2011 at 13:25

PraxxtorCruel said:
Can someone confirm that the only two carriers that offer truly unlimited internet, are giff-gaff and talk mobile?

3 do it as well

Streeteh · 24 Apr 2011 at 13:36

Right you lot, your harping on about how amazing this phone will be has made me extend my existing contract for a month and preorder this phone from mobiles.co.uk instead of going for the much cheaper option of a SGS.

I hope you're happy with yourselves!

Robbo · 24 Apr 2011 at 13:40

Streeteh said:
Right you lot, your harping on about how amazing this phone will be has made me extend my existing contract for a month and preorder this phone from mobiles.co.uk instead of going for the much cheaper option of a SGS.

I hope you're happy with yourselves!

Haha, you won't regret it squire!

Streeteh · 24 Apr 2011 at 13:43

To be honest i wrote it off completely as i assumed that contracts would be insanely expensive, especially on vodafone (i'm pretty much limited to them due to signal issues with every other carrier around where my parents live).

I then decided to have a glance for funs sake, found that for £30 for the phone you could get a £30/month vodafone contract. After deducting the cost of the new phone that works out at around £10/month for the contract. Pretty reasonable tbh.

Robbo · 24 Apr 2011 at 13:51

It is very well priced, yes. You can't go wrong!

PraxxtorCruel · 24 Apr 2011 at 14:06

Anyone gone with the Talk Mobile 12 month contract deals? Will they be locked to Talk Mobile?

londonbairn · 24 Apr 2011 at 15:10

Streeteh said:
To be honest i wrote it off completely as i assumed that contracts would be insanely expensive, especially on vodafone (i'm pretty much limited to them due to signal issues with every other carrier around where my parents live).

I then decided to have a glance for funs sake, found that for £30 for the phone you could get a £30/month vodafone contract. After deducting the cost of the new phone that works out at around £10/month for the contract. Pretty reasonable tbh.

You do realise you are over paying right? Buymobilephones has £30p/m for 18 months on T-mobile, with more mins (600 minutes), and slightly less upfront (£20)....you're going to end up paying £190 over odds for a lot less minutes

Streeteh · 24 Apr 2011 at 15:18

rafster said:
You do realise you are over paying right? Buymobilephones has £30p/m for 18 months on T-mobile, with more mins (600 minutes), and slightly less upfront (£20)....you're going to end up paying £190 over odds for a lot less minutes

Read my post, i can't go with Tmobile.

300 mins is plenty for me.

£50 quidco cashback from mobiles.co.uk more than cancels out the difference in phone cost as you can only get £30 from buymobilephones.

Also, it's not as if i'm paying £190 for 'nothing'. I'll be getting 6 months worth of mobile phone contract. Yes it's slightly more expensive as i could 'downgrade' to a cheaper contract in those six months, but it certainly won't work out as completely free as you are wording it as. Assuming i went with the cheapest vodaphone contract i could it would be roughly £15/month, so it would work out as £90 saved, but i can't get a £30/month 18 month vodafone contract so it's a moot point.

[EDIT] Oh and, the tmobile contract is limited to 500 texts. I need texts more than i need mins and the vodafone contract has unlimited (ok, fair use of 3000)

SKILL · 24 Apr 2011 at 15:43

I'm really tempted by this but got a problem in that I can't realistically afford the phone sim-free and yet I'm annoyed with contracts, mainly as I'm a light user, now £30 or so a month for a phone I don't have a problem with, it's the fact that almost inevitably I'll need to call an 0845/0870 number during a month and the cost of those calls are silly and 'of course' the 'free' minutes on your contract don't include any of these...

estebanrey · 24 Apr 2011 at 16:14

Journey said:
Seriously? I mean, you should really do some reading before you decide to post such uninformed tripe.

Precisely what reading have I missed sir?

Journey said:
Robbo as he has already said, although is part of the Carphone Warehouse group of stores, it is still in direct competition with them

Yeah, sure it is. :rolleyes:

I think you should read a business book and look up the advantages of trading under several names, it's called spreading your risk. You might also want to look up how the Competition Commision works too, I think you find from their point of view CPW and mobiles.co.uk are the same company.

They are in competition with each other as much as my left and right hands are in competition with each other.

Journey said:
and all the other contract providers, including P4U and so on.

P4U, CPW and Mobiles.co.uk aren't contract providers, they are mobile phone vendors. Orange, T-Mobile, Vodafone etc are contract providers.

If you're going to imply someomne is ignorant as you did with the first line of your provocative post, I find it best you make sure your terminology is spot on therafter.

Nice own goal though

Journey said:
The reason their stock in unlocked and unbranded is so they can then sell what ever stock they have on what ever network the customer needs, or indeed sell them SIM free.

But that's not what I asked was it? I asked why there isn't anything on their site about them being unlocked if it's such a desirable thing to have? I'd paste it all over the front page but for some reason it seems to be a big secret that only [wannabe] indusry insiders like you and Robbo know about...why?

And why don't the contract providers mind and insist everyone else has to lock them? I'm thick so don't know all this stuff but those two questions should be easy for someone as learned as you, I await your well-informed answers :rolleyes:

Journey said:
Good luck thinking some one who is nicking your £500 smart phone gives a carp if it's locked or not, they just unlock it change the IMEI and sell it down the pub or what ever for £100.

Another own goal, if they are easy to unlock why should I be worried about getting a locked unit?

Robbo · 24 Apr 2011 at 16:17

Can you please stop with this rubbish estebanrey, you are just making yourself look stupid over me saying that people should be aware phones from Phones4U MIGHT be locked.

If that doesn't bother you then great, but not everyone is the same as you (thank god).

estebanrey · 24 Apr 2011 at 16:19

Just keep avoiding those two questions Robbo

Robbo · 24 Apr 2011 at 16:23

You are saying that people dont care if a phone is locked or not, some do, some dont.

It is quite clearly a selling point on the Mobiles.co.uk site, for example - http://www.mobiles.co.uk/htc-incredible-s.html It says in the 4 points under the Facebook/Twitter stuff.

It is a selling point, albeit not for everyone. You are just being argumentative for nothing.

estebanrey · 24 Apr 2011 at 16:36

Argumentative? Short memory much? Robbo, you said that P4U might be locked and I replied...

Good! Makes it less appealing to thieves and as I'm locked into an 18 month contract and happy with my network I really couldn't care less.

I can't see me selling me it for the duration of my contract and I'm sure in 18 months you'll be able to unlock it in most high street shops.

Clearly talking about MY situation and not confrontational or argumentative in the slightest. You then replied saying I was speaking "Nonsense" with the confused smilie. So forgive me for sounding like a primary school child but you 'started it'.

Go read my OP again and tell where I accussed you of being speanking nonsese or being ignorant because I can find several examples of you doing it to me.

Robbo · 24 Apr 2011 at 16:39

The tone of your post made it seem like I had insulted you directly, then you've constantly argued for absolutely no reason when I've never said there is anything wrong with having a locked phone if you aren't bothered about it.

My iPhone is locked for example, but if I had a choice, I'd want it unlocked.

Understood?

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