**The Official Star Wars Battlefront II Thread (PC)**

VincentHanna said:
There's a reason for that, people like Ubisoft and Take-Two (GTA V publisher) are reporting almost record profits on the back of microtransactions.

GTA V is the most successful game of all time and it still pulling in millions of dollars from microtransactions.

Remember, casual gamers don't know/care about this controversy and you'll likely find in a year that Battlefront II is one of EA's more profitable games.
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And that right there is the real problem, not the game companies, not the devs, but the people who buy the transactions/lootcrates. Its a simple concept, the same as drugs and cigarettes and gold selling in MMOs, if there is no demand and profit there would be no supply. Fact is , there is an enormous demand, loads and loads of people spend and will continue to spend loads and loads of money buying these things.

In MMO land, I dont blame the goldfarmers, I blame the (usually western) players who keep throwing money at the goldfarmers. Those players who have money to spend and think nothing of throwing the odd tenner here and there to get something to give themselves a leg up on other players and boost their flagging self esteem.
 
Nexus18 said:
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Yup pretty much.

Also, iirc, a mass effect developer said a while ago that loot boxes/micro transactions were the way forward as they had a couple of guys spend thousands on just loot boxes :o



bahahahahahahaha

Then I read this comment:



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Good to see ronku whore jackfrags is trying to downplay the issue, he makes some valid points but also some completely and utterly retarded comments:

- from what I seen, all this so called "free" dlc/content might be free but it is going to be locked behind in game pay walls thus either grind for 40+ hours to unlock the stuff or buy loot boxes. I think it is safe to say that the vast majority of people would rather have premium/season pass over BF 2 current system.... Heck shouldn't need to have any system like either but premium/paid for dlc is by far the lesser of 2 evils in this case

- people aren't really that bothered about pay to "win", more the pay to "progress", as I was saying last night to a friend, the amount of time required to level up the class was 1600 hours, that is more gameplay time than what I have in BC 2, BF 3, BF 1 and SWBF 1 combined...... It is just slightly less hours than what I have in bf 4 and I had everything unlocked in that game within a few hundred hours.....

I also have to laugh at people that try to claim that developers have a hard time of making money, no they really don't, remind me again, how much these companies are worth? That's right, millions, if developers want more money then they should be asking their publishers/ceo for a pay increase..... Also, remind me again how much money games like mario, zelda etc. made? And they had no dlc or micro transactions........ If developers aren't happy with their income and want more money then move to a new job.

Oh well, at least it looks like dice/ea are going to have to address this now. Going to be interesting to see what their next SWBF or BF game will be like with regards to micro transactions..... Supposedly need for speed payback is even worse :eek:
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https://venturebeat.com/2016/10/14/...llion-in-a-mobile-game-then-he-led-a-boycott/
 
I really want this, because star wars, and it looks like good fun outside of the unlocking BS.

I just can't bring myself to support the game, no matter how much I want to play it. Hopefully my will power can hold out.
 
I do care about 'Play to win' on a full RRP game, but me not buying the game won't change anything. Microtransactions are making a fortune for games publishers and is the new model.

Gamers think they can turn the tide by not buying it - But casual games don't care and make up the bulk of the sales. They don't even know about the controversy.

I know I'm not going to buy loot boxes, but I do want to play the single player campaign and multiplayer - Will I still be playing in 3 months? I doubt it.

It's also interesting that if you go in the FIFA thread, many of the players have spent money on that - What's the difference?
 
TonyTurbo78 said:
50 jibs for a 6 hour story?? :eek:
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Yup campaign isn't even finished, just ends on a massive cliffhanger with the end scene being tied to future dlc pack so if lootboxes do terrible then EA will say that game isn't profitable enough amongst other BS reasons therefore they can't finish it thus people will buy lootboxes then.....

southernorth said:
https://venturebeat.com/2016/10/14/...llion-in-a-mobile-game-then-he-led-a-boycott/
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Just ******* crazy....

VincentHanna said:
I care about 'Play to win' but me not buying the game won't change anything.

Gamers think they can turn the tide by not buying it - But casual games don't care and make up the bulk of the sales. They don't even know about the controversy.

I know I'm not going to buy loot boxes, but I do want to play the single player campaign and multiplayer - Will I still be playing in 3 months? I doubt it.
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And that there is the problem :(

Too many people have no will power or/and don't give a **** and then there are people that are of that same opinion.

Given the amount of hate/backlash, heck the fact that EA's post on reddit is the most downvoted comment of all time, I would like to think there are going to be a substantial amount that are boycotting the game.....


Thankfully EA/DICE made a complete **** up with the squad system i.e. can't play with friends in the same squad, as the squad based system just groups you in a new squad every time you die so there is absolutely no pressure for me to buy the game even if all the guys that I play BF 1, 3, 4 etc. with were to go and buy it :D
 
Yes but you are conflating Reddit users (and what they say) with the general games buying population - This issue won't even be know by casual gamers.

Always remember this:

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Not only that, but the ones who have all day to play are kids and students. The kids just ask their parents for "Xbox points" or whatever they are called now, the parents give them £10 and the kids go off spend that money on microtransactions. My 11 year old Nephew is always asking his mum for "Fifa points".

If everyone on Reddit boycotted the game, I guarantee it would still sell amazingly Worldwide.

Publishers are making huge profits from microtransactions so they have no reason to stop.
 
VincentHanna said:
Yes but you are conflating Reddit users (and what they say) with the general games buying population - This issue won't even be know by casual gamers.

Always remember this:

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Not only that, but the ones who have all day to play are kids and students. The kids just ask their parents for "Xbox points" or whatever they are called now, the parents give them £10 and the kids go off spend that money on microtransactions. My 11 year old Nephew is always asking his mum for "Fifa points".

If everyone on Reddit boycotted the game, I guarantee it would still sell amazingly Worldwide.

Publishers are making huge profits from microtransactions so they have no reason to stop.
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Yup I don't disagree, games will still sell incredibly well but still, even a few hundred thousand people not buying the game will lose a considerable amount of money, especially if these people were to order through origin/ea at the max price.
 
Was a pretty certain no buy before, then watched a stream of it last night. Looks horrid to play and the p2w aspect is obvious no matter how much they want to down play it
 
I liked the "heros only" servers in BF2 back in the day. There was nothing funnier than getting chased by 10 Yodas. But I guess with no mod or private server support, it won't happen in this one....

Just pay-to-win loot boxes until the game inevitably dies a month later.
 
Wasn't interested in Battlefront 2 at all, or anything by EA tbh... That subreddit is beautiful though.

Hopefully this could be the wheels in motion for a change. EA are a disgusting company, who have done nothing right for years.
Unfortunately, everyone will still buy it for full price. EA will maybe hand out a free hero and everyone will collectively stroke their privates in solidarity.
 
Ugh

the game £55, cant we just start a game and play with the characters and weapons?

the best thing about the first one was just being able to play offline against bots for 20 mins and get to sandbox all the starwars ships / guns / heros
(although it annoyed me that they never put the DLC into the skirmish mode)

I CBA to grind for 2958023965 hours to unlock a hero which I never get to use online because some kid beats you to the hero selection every round, or you do get them and die after a few minutes of play
 
gettothechopper said:
Ugh

the game £55, cant we just start a game and play with the characters and weapons?
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That seems to be the new EA etc do business now. Pay a crazy high price for half a game, then you have to buy the other half separately.

They did it with last year's Battlefront. It was £120 for the full game (lol), everyone stopped playing after a month and now it's £4 with empty servers. The same will happen again, so there is no point in buying this one either...

By contrast, people are STILL playing the BF2 from 2005 and it still has more content and better mechanics (and proper servers, mods, etc).
 
Probably because it was embarrassing to be out-shined by a 12 year old game.

But luckily the game is moddable and people are working on fixing MP. Rumours are Gog are going to host some servers.
 
It will still sell well unfortunatly. We gamers that actually know about this stuff and follow the news are the minority compared to the general consumer that looks forward to one or 2 games a year.
 
Plus don't forget the release of The Last Jedi will help sell copies of this game untold. I expect EA to make a huge profit from this game , sadly at the cost of the gamer.
 
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