*** The OS X Lion Thread ***

Of course its not a complete operating system if you have to have SL installed first!

Windows used to release new operating systems with a separate "upgrade" version, this cost less as you had to have the previous version installed. That is exactly the same principle as SL and Lion except there is no "full" version i.e. just load lion direct from a DVD. (I may be incorrect here but thats what I think is happening).

And on this point, it is possible that if Lion does become available on DVD/USB it will be a complete install (no SL required).
 
On problem I've just found is that the cursor seems to disappear in Flash based applications in Safari. I've only tried a couple of games in FB so far but it's dang annoying. Nothing mentioned on the net as far as I can tell.
 
Given that it's possible to take the .dmg file from the installer and create a DVD or USB stick and then use that to do a clean install of Lion of course it is a complete operating system. The reason to have Snow Leopard installed first is to enable the "normal" distribution channel, i.e. the App Store, not as a technical requirement for running the actual new OS version.

As for whether it's a major release or just a service pack ... well you can't go by whether the major "version number" has changed these days anyway(*). Yes it's not OS XI ... but that could be just that they want to keep the OSX brand for longer and think it's easier for people to deal with breeds of cats instead of changes in Roman numerals.

Is it worth £21 ... in my opinion yes. Do I like all the changes ... of course not but that's just my preferences and shouldn't be taken on whether the changes are bad or not.
(*) take HP-UX for instance, the last three major releases are 11.00, 11.11, 11.23 and 11.31. Those are not service pack releases on the 11.0 OS they are major release in their own right.
 
My bad, I wasn't sure if you had to have SL installed first to even contemplate installing Lion. I guess that would make Lion a full operating system then...

On a second note, when OSXI comes I think the re-brand will be different but similar i.e. you will get 11.0 Hawk, 11.1 Falcon, 11.2 Blue ***, etc...
 
The iMac I ordered on the 19th shipped yesterday. I'm all excited to see whether it'll turn up with Lion preinstalled or whether I'll have to jump through the hoops for a freebie upgrade.
 
memyselfandi said:
Given that it's possible to take the .dmg file from the installer and create a DVD or USB stick and then use that to do a clean install of Lion of course it is a complete operating system. The reason to have Snow Leopard installed first is to enable the "normal" distribution channel, i.e. the App Store, not as a technical requirement for running the actual new OS version.

As for whether it's a major release or just a service pack ... well you can't go by whether the major "version number" has changed these days anyway(*). Yes it's not OS XI ... but that could be just that they want to keep the OSX brand for longer and think it's easier for people to deal with breeds of cats instead of changes in Roman numerals.

Is it worth £21 ... in my opinion yes. Do I like all the changes ... of course not but that's just my preferences and shouldn't be taken on whether the changes are bad or not.
(*) take HP-UX for instance, the last three major releases are 11.00, 11.11, 11.23 and 11.31. Those are not service pack releases on the 11.0 OS they are major release in their own right.
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Quoted as the truth, i couldn't have summed it up better.
 
My wife hates the removal of the scrollbar buttons. She dislikes scrolling with two fingers (don't ask) and so isn't happy about that bit.

After initially hammering her 2007 MacBook it has settled down and runs about the same speed as when it ran SL. A little hotter though.
 
Of course its a complete operating system! Jesus!
Its not an upgrade. Its a complete OS that can be upgraded from snow leopard just like any other OS before it. I installed mine on a empty hdd so that puts an end to that. 10.7 is how apple market a new OS. 10.7. is how they iterate upgrades.
 
LordSplodge said:
My wife hates the removal of the scrollbar buttons. She dislikes scrolling with two fingers (don't ask) and so isn't happy about that bit.
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Tell her to accept change and move forward grandma!

Does she scroll with grabbing the scrollbar? How...dated!?
 
I've just spent an hour shifting around programs in launchpad.

Which DOES NOT Tally up with the applications folder.

I'm wondering how many app launch ways do we actually need!
 
Well i think launchpad is considered as "all"

people will still want to dump their top progs and folders on the dock.

It's shrunk my dock slightly but its going to be trial by error on workflow kind of thing.
 
I've just spent a bit of time organising launch pad and I generally don't get the idea of it, yes for some people it'll be useful but it is far quicker for me to hit cmd+space and type the program (more often than not only the first 2/3 letters are required.
 
Logsi said:
Launchpad is for casuals. Spotlight and a hidden dock is where it's always been at.
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It's slightly annoying that, with the dock hidden off the bottom of the screen, you still get the annoying jumping icons when something wants your attention - but you just see the top popping in to view.
 
sbi5ar said:
I've just spent a bit of time organising launch pad and I generally don't get the idea of it, yes for some people it'll be useful but it is far quicker for me to hit cmd+space and type the program (more often than not only the first 2/3 letters are required.
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Alfred > Spotlight > Launchpad.

Weirdly my iMac used to idle @ 38c now idles at 44c. Whereas my MBP idled at 50-52c now idles @ 38c
 
Quick question

I've noticed Frontrow no longer appears when I hit the menu button on my remote. The remote is still working as I can control iTunes etc with it, just pre-Lion obviously the menu button would launch Frontrow, now it doesn't

Anyone else seeing this?
 
Logsi said:
Tell her to accept change and move forward grandma!

Does she scroll with grabbing the scrollbar? How...dated!?
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No she scrolled by pressing the buttons (the up/down ones) and has done so for the past 4 years. She will get used to the change it just may take some time, bless her.

Oh and she isn't a grandma (yet!) :p
 
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