The rise of OnlyFans

Even with evidence you keep replying lol.


Why mention the wife being obese? You're making yourself look dumb.

I mention it because these men claim to have standards, but the reality is their chosen obese ugly mean bitter wife shows the reality.


So if you hear of a woman being forced to sell sexual services you pat them on the back and say "great choice"?

Why are you trying to compare forced sexual slavery with legitimate work?


That is you assuming other people think like you, that sex and looks are the most valuable element of society. They aren't.

What’s more valuable? Where would you place it in the hierarchy of value? Or… is it possible that many different things have value in different ways.

I lose respect for someone who takes the easiest way out at the first opportunity.

So if you won the lottery you would not accept the money because it was too easy? Are you giving up all inheritance you may ever receive because it was too easy? Do you “lose respect” for people accepting these things?
 
I mention it because these men claim to have standards, but the reality is their chosen obese ugly mean bitter wife shows the reality.

Why do you keep acting so vehemently towards men with obese wives?

I don't even care about what the others have said, you keep coming back to this and it's a little odd. You've evolved from them being obese and ugly, to them being obese, ugly, and bitter since the last time you brought it up. Is it so difficult for you to believe that other people might have different values, or that those people might actually be happy?

Not everyone has the same standards, people value things very differently. In your case, you quite clearly value a certain type (I'm assuming slender, fairly fit woman as the baseline), someone else might be extremely personality focused. Others might simply like chunky women, there's sure as hell a market for it from what I've seen although I can't say it's my personal cup of tea.

I think that you diminish your arguments when you start making statements like this, it's almost as though you're either intentionally provoking people or are bitter over something yourself.

I prefer petite women that like to keep fit to give some reference here, but I'm also very much monogamous and quite private in regards to my life. I want a quiet, peaceful existence where I can enjoy myself with a small group of people that I enjoy the company of. I have an ex who was very much an exhibitionist and into some pretty extreme bedroom stuff, while we parted ways on good terms she was initially far from honest regarding the fact or I wouldn't have dated her and we both would have been better off. The idea of being any sort of media personality is absolutely anathema to my person, let alone flashing my bits or being with someone that does so largely for those reasons. By contrast, I've dated a chubby girl before that I absolutely got on with in every way other than the fact she wanted kids and was able to look past the little bit of weight. Very smart lady, masters in something relating to chemistry from what I remember.
 
For the 3rd time, I’ve already apologised for only saying obese. I’ve now added further poor qualities, such as mean, and ugly (inside and out), to demonstrate the point.

So you're being intentionally provocative in order to rile people up? Good to know you're not engaging in good faith, although your earlier comment about disabled people proved that.
 
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So you're being intentionally provocative in order to rile people up? Good to know you're not engaging in good faith, although your earlier comment about disabled people proved that.

What? My apology is based on using one quality that in and of itself is a preference, so I added others.

Surely you can see the ridiculousness of “yea I wouldn’t date that conventionally attractive, wealthy woman… now excuse me whilst I marry an obese, mean, bitter, ugly woman”
 
“Ugh, women who dare resort to making money engaging in a form of sex work lose all my respect… because they don’t work hard enough for their money… now excuse me whilst I claim benefits”

I’m calling out hypocrisy, not disabled people. Anyone engaging in good faith can see that.

As someone denigrated for being a filthy leftist woke socialist it’s genuinely refreshing to see the cry bullies switch tactic.

Slow Friday night huh?
 
Please discuss the topic itself and not turn the discussion onto personal natures for other members of the forum.

I've lost count the amount of times they have called people on here incels, rape apologists (amongst other things) and slates other people's life choices so it seemed a reasonable question given the slightly judgemental way the person it was aimed at does to people on this very forum but, hey-ho, Mod decision

TBH, the lack of response more than likely answers the question anyway.
 
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I've lost count the amount of times they have called people on here incels, rape apologists (amongst other things) and slates other people's life choices so it seemed a reasonable question given the slightly judgemental way the person it was aimed at does to people on this very forum but, hey-ho, Mod decision

TBH, the lack of response more than likely answers the question anyway.
My warning was an attempt to try and bring the thread back on topic.

Slow Friday night huh?
Quite...
 
What? My apology is based on using one quality that in and of itself is a preference, so I added others.

Surely you can see the ridiculousness of “yea I wouldn’t date that conventionally attractive, wealthy woman… now excuse me whilst I marry an obese, mean, bitter, ugly woman”

If she was conventionally attractive and wealthy she wouldn't be doing OFs in the first place though.

Also everyone's idea what is conventionally attractive is completely different. I have seen plenty of these top 1% models on chat shows who are 5/6's at most with my eyes. I wonder to myself what all the hype is about?

I prefer my women to be taller for example. My wife is 5ft8". I just couldn't be with a petite girl as I am 6ft3" and it just doesn't work.

That doesn't mean a petite girl is ugly. It just isn't my preference.

Also if you was going by catwalk models or supermodels from the 90's the vast majority of these top 1% OF's models wouldn't get a look in. Again that's a different opinion of what is conventionally attractive.
 
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I don't really know what looks have to do with the OF conversation as there are women of all shapes and sizes on there.

Any woman can make money from OF by default of her being a woman.

The same issues can come up if the woman is 100lbs or 400lbs.

OF girl doesn't always mean a nice personality either.

Women in general are more judgemental than guys because they have to make more judgements about guys approaching them.

Being online for a woman is a totally different experience than for a guy.

Men seek out conversations whilst women are trying to avoid most of them. Because it's constant for them.

I think going out with an OF girl it could be difficult to spend time with her, especially if she is successful. Because they mostly have to pretend they are single, and they can't really turn down work because of reputational damage.

So unless you're happy to play second place most of the time. Then it could be a difficult relationship.
 
What is this based on?
Common knowledge. Haven't you seen the stories where a top girl streamer is "exposed" for having a boyfriend?


A number of female internet personalities in the past have claimed or observed that having a boyfriend brings about a decrease in popularity on platforms such as Twitch.

Having a partner breaks the para-social illusion for most people.
 


So that appeared on my phone google feed today, might have already been mentioned somewhere in this thread but it's very likely you're not even talking to the person who's content you're buying, especially if they're in the top percent or 2.

So instead of talking with 'Nympho Nikki from Nevada' you're probably talking to 'Pervy Padmal from the Punjab'. Seems like they work in shifts and are basically shilling content around the clock and posing as the page owner in the chat. Pretty amusing considering the Onlyfans mantra on their 'about' page is about creators being able to make 'authentic connections with their fans', likelihood is you might not ever talk to the actual person running the page.

Not even sure of the legalities of that, seems deceptive to say the least considering what the site claims.

Ed: updated the link to unlocked archived version of the story.
 
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So that appeared on my phone google feed today, might have already been mentioned somewhere in this thread but it's very likely you're not even talking to the person who's content you're buying, especially if they're in the top percent or 2.

So instead of talking with 'Nympho Nikki from Nevada' you're probably talking to 'Pervy Padmal from the Punjab'. Seems like they work in shifts and are basically shilling content around the clock and posing as the page owner in the chat. Pretty amusing considering the Onlyfans mantra on their 'about' page is about creators being able to make 'authentic connections with their fans', likelihood is you might not ever talk to the actual person running the page.

Not even sure of the legalities of that, seems deceptive to say the least considering what the site claims.

Ed: updated the link to unlocked archived version of the story.

I read that article a week or so ago. Quite scary how duped and misled the fans are. It's very predatory, playing on peoples desires and wants and will be interesting to see how the lawsuit goes.
 
I read that article a week or so ago. Quite scary how duped and misled the fans are. It's very predatory, playing on peoples desires and wants and will be interesting to see how the lawsuit goes.


It baffles me about their mantra of 'letting creators make authentic connections with their fans', if in fact the site is totally fine with these 'creators' hiring people to shill content and chat for them. I don't see how that can't be considered fraudulent.

Quite obviously the site owners don't care as long as they're getting their cut. And I've seen people talking about a class action lawsuit over this, if it goes against the site they will probably take the easy route and state you might not be talking to the creators. Instead of putting some verification system in place that sees the creator log in and maybe sends a text code to the creators phone every few hours to verify its them on using the account.
 
It baffles me about their mantra of 'letting creators make authentic connections with their fans', if in fact the site is totally fine with these 'creators' hiring people to shill content and chat for them. I don't see how that can't be considered fraudulent.
How is it any different from Ye Olde Phone Sex lines where the supposedly young, fit 25 year old blone with the sexy, husky voice tells you she's slowly removing her tight jeans and playing with herself, when in reality she's a 50-something fat brunette granny, sat there with a headset on while she's knitting a blanket for the church raffle?

The connection is as authentic as the customer feels it to be. It's their fantasy they're paying for so as long as they get what they came for, who cares whether it's a real stairway to heaven or not?
 
How is it any different from Ye Olde Phone Sex lines where the supposedly young, fit 25 year old blone with the sexy, husky voice tells you she's slowly removing her tight jeans and playing with herself, when in reality she's a 50-something fat brunette granny, sat there with a headset on while she's knitting a blanket for the church raffle?

The connection is as authentic as the customer feels it to be. It's their fantasy they're paying for so as long as they get what they came for, who cares whether it's a real stairway to heaven or not?
In your example phone sex is a more mental exercise because you have to do the imagining.

In situations were a male is replying whilst the girl is acting like she's typing the mental connection is undermined.

On a side note Andrew Tate mentions doing this very thing in his interviews.

Tate went on to say most women don't know what to say to guys beyond small talk.
 
How is it any different from Ye Olde Phone Sex lines where the supposedly young, fit 25 year old blone with the sexy, husky voice tells you she's slowly removing her tight jeans and playing with herself, when in reality she's a 50-something fat brunette granny, sat there with a headset on while she's knitting a blanket for the church raffle?

Afaik those transitioned from phones to being a tv channel at some stage where your call could be heard and the model would interact with the caller that way. Maybe the laws changed and what they were doing was no longer legit so had to set up shop on tv\ppv or whatever to be able to prove you were talking to the person?

The connection is as authentic as the customer feels it to be. It's their fantasy they're paying for so as long as they get what they came for, who cares whether it's a real stairway to heaven or not?

Well there's meant to be a class action lawsuit in the works against the site because of this thing where people can pretend to be the content creator, so seems there's enough that care for this to happen. I don't really care either way as I've never used the site. I just found the article interesting considering the sites blab about building 'authentic connections with the creator' when its almost certainly not the creator you're talking to. Its hard to go on twitter\insta without seeing these 'models' flashing their bits begging for people to 'come chat' to them.
 
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