The Ryzen 5 3600 Discussion Thread

zxh800 · 27 Aug 2019 at 12:19

Phil Smith said:
I was going to say! Still sounds very decent though.

My setup now is:

Ryzen 3600 Manual OC @ 4.2Ghz, 1.325V

Deepcool Captain 240Ex

32Gb (4x8)Corsair Vengeance 3200Mhz 16C

MSI Radeon RX 580 Armor OC

NZXT H500

My idle temps are around 35C (which considering my room is pretty warm I'm happy with) and 70 under heavy load (cinebench)

Agreed. I gave up with Prime 95 and instead chose to stress my system for stability in perceivable real world scenarios.

Nice temps! I have the same case. What's your fan set up? Are using the stock NZXT fans?

How do your temps compare to your stock clocks? My lows are in the 36C range but it rarely stays there under normal use (browsing) with all that boosting up and down going on. Did you find locking the voltage and OCing actually helped with temps?

PS. Are the temps from HWMonitor or Ryzen Master?

EB_Prophet · 31 Aug 2019 at 07:55

Minstadave said:
dont think that info is out there. It also seems to vary on your AGESA version.

zxh800 said:
Nice temps! I have the same case. What's your fan set up? Are using the stock NZXT fans?

How do your temps compare to your stock clocks? My lows are in the 36C range but it rarely stays there under normal use (browsing) with all that boosting up and down going on. Did you find locking the voltage and OCing actually helped with temps?

PS. Are the temps from HWMonitor or Ryzen Master?

Morning,

So i've recent got a 3600 and after having a right headache getting it to even work on my MSI B450 Tomahawk it's running the v19 BIOS and seems stable. I used Ryzen Master to drop the volts to 1.325v and set an all core clock of 4.2 and it seems ok so far, however does this stop the chip from downclocking in windows because it's not just running that 1.325v fixed it seems? I only ask because at this setting it's like 50c in windows and 70-75 under load.

Any ideas?

TrM · 31 Aug 2019 at 08:18

EB_Prophet said:
Morning,

So i've recent got a 3600 and after having a right headache getting it to even work on my MSI B450 Tomahawk it's running the v19 BIOS and seems stable. I used Ryzen Master to drop the volts to 1.325v and set an all core clock of 4.2 and it seems ok so far, however does this stop the chip from downclocking in windows because it's not just running that 1.325v fixed it seems? I only ask because at this setting it's like 50c in windows and 70-75 under load.

Any ideas?

ryzen 3000 chips across the board are running hotter at idle. The only way to get cool temps is to use stock stetting and use power saving plan in windows power options but that will clock down to 2.2 ghz at idle.

Ryzen master and bios fixed mode will always have x amount going though it so the volts won’t downclock but the usage will etc

EB_Prophet · 31 Aug 2019 at 08:45

TrM said:
ryzen 3000 chips across the board are running hotter at idle. The only way to get cool temps is to use stock stetting and use power saving plan in windows power options but that will clock down to 2.2 ghz at idle.

Ryzen master and bios fixed mode will always have x amount going though it so the volts won’t downclock but the usage will etc

Thanks that makes sense, I had come to this conclusion with some experimenting this morning. The only thing I did notice was when I set volts in ryzen master it still lowered them when the chip was being stressed across the board? I assume this is some kind of thermal/power throttling? Example at 1.325v when running cinebench it dropped down to 1.2v or something. Also crashed in cinebench when doing that so I've got it back to stock now gonna have a play around properly to try and find a slightly happier medium. When sat in windows it's just 4.1Ghz @ 1.4x volts. Temps around 50s, I've seen up to mid 70s under load. This is with a Dark Rock Pro 4, Possibly gonna take it apart and check it's seated properly because that still seems a touch high?

Nghtmare · 31 Aug 2019 at 08:49

I don't have a 3600 (3800X) but my CPU idles at 30-33C in Ryzen Balanced.

TrM · 31 Aug 2019 at 08:54

Nghtmare said:
I don't have a 3600 (3800X) but my CPU idles at 30-33C in Ryzen Balanced.

My 3900x idles at about 55 degrees at stock even when I disable a whole ccx chip let with cores I’m still in mid 40s

Nghtmare · 31 Aug 2019 at 09:02

TrM said:
My 3900x idles at about 55 degrees at stock even when I disable a whole ccx chip let with cores I’m still in mid 40s

That is weird, check if you have an open program that is not letting the CPU go idle. I had that with a Keyboard software that I ended up returning. I recommend that you do the following:

1. Close every program that you have open, including the notification area (next to the time)
2. Use Ryzen Master to make sure cores go idle, use HWInfo64 to make sure voltages go down to 900-1.100v when idle
3. Start opening one program at the time (from the ones you closed), and check that the CPU behaviour stays the same and not get stuck in high voltages.

In my case, as soon as I would open the keyboard software, the CPU would go to 1.5v and would not go down until I closed it again.

Justo · 31 Aug 2019 at 09:29

corsair icue causing my 3600x to spike and stay at full voltage i have since stopped using it and my cpu is behaving normally

EB_Prophet · 31 Aug 2019 at 09:30

Nghtmare said:
That is weird, check if you have an open program that is not letting the CPU go idle. I had that with a Keyboard software that I ended up returning. I recommend that you do the following:

1. Close every program that you have open, including the notification area (next to the time)
2. Use Ryzen Master to make sure cores go idle, use HWInfo64 to make sure voltages go down to 900-1.100v when idle
3. Start opening one program at the time (from the ones you closed), and check that the CPU behaviour stays the same and not get stuck in high voltages.

In my case, as soon as I would open the keyboard software, the CPU would go to 1.5v and would not go down until I closed it again.

So when I use the Ryzen Master balanced it just stays at full speed, if I switch to windows balanced it will drop down to 0.9v 2.2ghz (5%) it seems? Ryzen Master is possibly bugged with my mobo/bios version. I have been reading MSI are having a ton of issues with the B450 3rd gen support.

Nghtmare · 31 Aug 2019 at 09:45

EB_Prophet said:
So when I use the Ryzen Master balanced it just stays at full speed, if I switch to windows balanced it will drop down to 0.9v 2.2ghz (5%) it seems? Ryzen Master is possibly bugged with my mobo/bios version. I have been reading MSI are having a ton of issues with the B450 3rd gen support.

It can be a factor, yes. Try uninstalling Chipster Driver, restart, install the latest one, and restart again. Also the Ryzen Balanced plan has a minimum of 99% when not in idle, I personally lowered it to 90%.

Nghtmare · 31 Aug 2019 at 09:46

Justo said:
corsair icue causing my 3600x to spike and stay at full voltage i have since stopped using it and my cpu is behaving normally

I had that on Roccat's Swarm software.

EB_Prophet · 31 Aug 2019 at 10:01

Nghtmare said:
I had that on Roccat's Swarm software.

Can confirm iCue does cause the issue, ryzen balanced reduced to 80% min, close icue and it drops as you would expect.

Nghtmare · 31 Aug 2019 at 10:04

EB_Prophet said:
Can confirm iCue does cause the issue, ryzen balanced reduced to 80% min, close icue and it drops as you would expect.

There you go

I did a lot of testing when I got the CPU, and that was one of the things I noticed at first so ended up returning the keyboard all together. Got a Ducky now because it does not require any active software.

EB_Prophet · 31 Aug 2019 at 10:07

Temps still seem high though. I know it's warm out at the moment but an hours Overwatch shows a max of 78.1?! It's still on stock settings and putting 1.45v max too. Actually found the more stressed it is, the volts drop and so the temps not as high.

Nghtmare · 31 Aug 2019 at 10:10

EB_Prophet said:
Temps still seem high though. I know it's warm out at the moment but an hours Overwatch shows a max of 78.1?! It's still on stock settings and putting 1.45v max too. Actually found the more stressed it is, the volts drop and so the temps not as high.

It can hit 78C depending on the cooler. That is peak temp though, I don't think that is the average temp and voltage. These CPUs will hit 1.45v for a split second on light load, but for all core load like gaming, it will sit around 1.35v

EB_Prophet · 31 Aug 2019 at 10:15

Nghtmare said:
It can hit 78C depending on the cooler. That is peak temp though, I don't think that is the average temp and voltage. These CPUs will hit 1.45v for a split second on light load, but for all core load like gaming, it will sit around 1.35v

Guess i'll just keep an eye on it. Definitely a nice bit of kit though for the price! Cooler I think I said was a Dark Rock Pro 4 so should be more than adequate I believe.

Nghtmare · 31 Aug 2019 at 10:17

EB_Prophet said:
Guess i'll just keep an eye on it. Definitely a nice bit of kit though for the price! Cooler I think I said was a Dark Rock Pro 4 so should be more than adequate I believe.

They are insane CPUs for the price I agree. I have a 3800X with a 360mm AIO and it still hits 72-73C at times while gaming. They are a little hot, but it is normal as long as you don't see 85-90C.

humbug · 31 Aug 2019 at 11:06

70's C is perfectly fine

Seeing lower volts at higher stress loads is also normal, the CPU will run as fast as it can in light loads and reduce that as the load gets higher so to keep within safe limits.

TrM · 31 Aug 2019 at 14:37

Nghtmare said:
That is weird, check if you have an open program that is not letting the CPU go idle. I had that with a Keyboard software that I ended up returning. I recommend that you do the following:

1. Close every program that you have open, including the notification area (next to the time)
2. Use Ryzen Master to make sure cores go idle, use HWInfo64 to make sure voltages go down to 900-1.100v when idle
3. Start opening one program at the time (from the ones you closed), and check that the CPU behaviour stays the same and not get stuck in high voltages.

In my case, as soon as I would open the keyboard software, the CPU would go to 1.5v and would not go down until I closed it again.

yea ive got a second ssd wkijith a fresh bwindows install ive tried and temp are satill higher then most ive even tryed a differnt cooler and paste etc and my cores do go to sleep etc but my all core temp under prime 95 is high 70s low 80s it strange how cpu behaves though. will trty fl;ash back on bios to see if that helps whenm i get back from this work trip

michty_me · 1 Sep 2019 at 12:30

How's everyone getting on with their 3600?
I initially planned to go with a 3900X then decided on a 3700X and now after thinking about it, A 3600 will do me just fine for a few years. I'll be getting a decent X570 board though so I can drop in a larger chip in the future.