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OK cool. Checked mine tonight and I'm at about 276W/m (performance). Does plummet in winter though.
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Everything off in menus etc Lost 8.1miles overnight. 0.9 Mobile app the rest vehicle standby. Which is a lot when the commute is only 13miles!
I Guess great driving efficiency is irrelevant if A it wastes loads over night. And B it has a lot of the battery unavailable for whatever reason.
Maybe this is normal for a 3yr old 65k mile car but still it’s not great seeing so much energy waste
I Guess great driving efficiency is irrelevant if A it wastes loads over night. And B it has a lot of the battery unavailable for whatever reason.
Maybe this is normal for a 3yr old 65k mile car but still it’s not great seeing so much energy waste
Ditch cabin overheat protection, waste of 0.9 miles 
In all seriousness it's there as a safety measure in case you accidently leave your kid/dog on a car which then heats up in the sun. It's active for 12 hours after you leave/lock your car. If that is not a concern for you then you can happily disable it and save the energy.
In all seriousness it's there as a safety measure in case you accidently leave your kid/dog on a car which then heats up in the sun. It's active for 12 hours after you leave/lock your car. If that is not a concern for you then you can happily disable it and save the energy.
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That's my most recent trip, so almost summer weather and my average over the ~18 months I've had the car.
Na not bothered, just trying to help Simon out with his phantom drain but not yet sure exactly where the loss is being shown.Ditch cabin overheat protection, waste of 0.9 miles
In all seriousness it's there as a safety measure in case you accidently leave your kid/dog on a car which then heats up in the sun. It's active for 12 hours after you leave/lock your car. If that is not a concern for you then you can happily disable it and save the energy.
Mines lost in vehicle standby. Wow that 5kwh on sentry mode is expensive ! That’s more than your commute…
I can see the trip calcs are BS on telsa now. They don’t include preheat or anything else and just treat it as free energy even though it’s part of the trip !
I can see the trip calcs are BS on telsa now. They don’t include preheat or anything else and just treat it as free energy even though it’s part of the trip !
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Ha, haven't charged it for a few days, it certainly does use the juice but having a plug at home makes it a non issue really. Well apart from the cost of course but then, that cost would be null and void the instant it caught someone damaging it... I'll happily pay the "insurance" cost.
Don
Not related to the 3 or the Y really, but I see that Tesla has cnacelled RHD versions of the S and X.
www.autocar.co.uk
Tesla customers cancel orders after RHD Model S, Model X sales stop | Autocar
Buyers frustrated after right-hand drive Model S and X cancelled; experts predict few LHD cars will be sold
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That's interesting. Wonder if having a rhd version is costing too much.
I posted it in the general Electric car thread.
It’s probably one of two things, volume was too low to make economic sense or they couldn’t get the engineering done.
Either way, i honestly think the S and X are just too expensive, particularly the S.
It’s probably one of two things, volume was too low to make economic sense or they couldn’t get the engineering done.
Either way, i honestly think the S and X are just too expensive, particularly the S.
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What engineering? Its a light facelift.
That’s not really true is it? It’s got a completely new drive train and interior.
Either way, as I said, just too expensive. They should have scrapped the ‘halo’ models and re-engineered the cars to be bigger siblings to the 3 and Y.
Kept the size but dropped the plaid, silly doors, gaming computers and delivered something at a more sensible £60-70k with similar range and acceleration to a 3/Y long range with a bit more for a performance model.
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Drivetrain? I don’t think so. Plaid agreed a new rear frame and dual motor, that’s benign to hand of drive. Still running 18500 cell. Maybe they could get any more L538 Evoque RHD steering racks.
Developing a whole new model would be orders of magnitude more expensive!
Developing a whole new model would be orders of magnitude more expensive!
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The cell format may be the same but the battery back as a whole has been re-engineered, including the cells themselves. The old pack doesn't have the capabilities of the new one, not even close. New motors, new heat pump cooling system, new battery pack, seems like a whole new drive train to me.
I get it the exterior looks pretty similar but there are significant changes under the metal in and the interior so you can't really call it a 'light refresh'.
I don't deny it but they may sell more than 60,000 a year if they did...
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So nothing to effect hand of drive then. A chemistry tweak is nothing dramatic if the format is the same.
Heat pump is a fridge with a couple of valves tweaked to optimise the heat flux management. Please stop getting carried away just to continue the narrative of something you have some self taught knowledge around as though it’s fact. RHD is more likely a simple business case decision.
Heat pump is a fridge with a couple of valves tweaked to optimise the heat flux management. Please stop getting carried away just to continue the narrative of something you have some self taught knowledge around as though it’s fact. RHD is more likely a simple business case decision.
So. Is enabling fast battery charging really worth it for peak charging speed number chasing?
65k miles 3yrs old 20 plate model 3 long range. Did the full discharge to 1% SOC. screen said 1% but battery still at 6% SOC. heater on full pulls 32-40A so soon discharges (no heat pump). This is run via the service manu then charged at 7kW
89% battery health. So in 3 yrs it’s lost 11% range. More than I would have expected tbh. But this has probably been ‘abused’ as it’s a rental car.
65k miles 3yrs old 20 plate model 3 long range. Did the full discharge to 1% SOC. screen said 1% but battery still at 6% SOC. heater on full pulls 32-40A so soon discharges (no heat pump). This is run via the service manu then charged at 7kW
89% battery health. So in 3 yrs it’s lost 11% range. More than I would have expected tbh. But this has probably been ‘abused’ as it’s a rental car.
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The car will always try to pre-condition if you navigate to a super charger. Clicking the message just hides it.
It’s entirely situational dependent. If you need a few kWh to get home then no. If you are getting a substantial charge, then yes it’s worth it.
It’s worth noting that if the battery isn’t up to temperature when you plug in the car will always divert power to heat the battery. So the net power use when taking a substantial charge is about the same pre-conditioning or not. If you don’t pre condition it takes longer.
If you just need a quick zap, navigate to to the location of the charger (E.g. the services) the but the charger itself and it will not pre condition.
That’s a lot of degradation for a 3 year old car. It’s probably been supercharged/charges to 100% daily.