The Tesla Thread

This comes up a lot in the owners group, generally what’s recommended is:
Sticking with Pilot Sport 4 T0
Regular Pilot Sport 4’s
New Pilot Sport 5
Cross Climate 2’s
New Hankook iON’s for EVs
The regular Hankook (Ventus?) that fits the model 3

Edit: be prepared for the tyre fitter to come out and say they can only fit T0’s to a tesla despite it being complete nonsense.
 
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Just finished a 6200 mile road trip in my Model S and it was flawless - the Supercharger network really is incredible. Every hotel stay had charging too which helped!

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Bonus pic of dirty car with some Presidents in the background :D

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Yup and I wouldn’t get too excited over highland. There is so much hype but from what I’ve seen I’m not sure why.

A lot of the changes are about making it cheaper to manufacture like redesigning the chassis around a small number of large castings like the Model Y.

What the end customer is likely to get is a cosmetic refresh on the exterior and interior. Fundamentally it will be the same car with some incremental improvements.

It will launch at a higher price to capture the hype and then start getting reductions later next year is my bet.
 
And as soon as the insurance companies figure out how expensive repairing these one peice castings is the insurance costs will rocket even more than normal for a Model 3....
 
G-Man said:
And as soon as the insurance companies figure out how expensive repairing these one peice castings is the insurance costs will rocket even more than normal for a Model 3....
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The reality is that if any car has chassis damage, it’s written off so it will not make any difference to insurance costs.

Likewise the repair process that a backstreet garage or a garage bodger would undertake shouldn’t be any different to a standard vehicle. The bent section is cut out and replaced or pulled back into alignment.
 
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b0rn2sk8 said:
The reality is that if any car has chassis damage, it’s written off so it will not make any difference to insurance costs.

Likewise the repair process that a backstreet garage or a garage bodger would undertake shouldn’t be any different to a standard vehicle. The bent section is cut out and replaced or pulled back into alignment.
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You just made that up yeah?
 
Truth is no one knows. No one knows how plastic and elastic deformation post event is dealt with on a casting, panels are modular, that’s the beauty of them.

There’s nothing sarcastic about fact-checking is there. Don’t let the emotion make it feel like you have been personally attacked. I have not ran over your dog. It’s a manufacturing speed choice with not benefit to the inlife operation of the car.

When I ask if you have made that up I am asking a question, it is far from “snarky”
 
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Jonnycoupe said:
Truth is no one knows. No one knows how plastic and elastic deformation post event is dealt with on a casting, panels are modular, that’s the beauty of them.

There’s nothing sarcastic about fact-checking is there. Don’t let the emotion make it feel like you have been personally attacked. I have not ran over your dog. It’s a manufacturing speed choice with not benefit to the inlife operation of the car.

When I ask if you have made that up I am asking a question, it is far from “snarky”
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Surely elastic deformation isn't the problem, only when in goes into the plastic region (which I realise might not take much if its a casting).
 
It’s telling the difference on a stiff casting compared to sheet construction and if the joins around it had yielded or not. A panel will “go” on the panel with evidence, a casting is pretty much invisible but residual stress might take the joint beyond its endurance limit and then soon be a durability issue with it failing through life.
 
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The question was about insurance costs and in the vast majority of collisions where the unibody/chassis is damaged, the car is written off by the insurance company. It being a casting or the normal way of welding together a number of smaller parts to make that section of the unibody, if its damaged in a collision, it will very likely be given CAT S status and find its way to your local Copart auction.

With the way insurance companies approach repairing cars back to factory condition with OEM parts and the charge out rates for body shops, its unlikely to be an 'economical repair'. A collision big enough to cause structural damage will deploy the passenger safety systems so its not just the cost of the body, there will be the cost if the interior which adds to the cost alongside weeks of hire car charges.
 
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Thatcham catergories and German GDV (with a 3 year in life index applied) is very much based on the “basket” price of the parts. Body panels included. This affects the customer on day one from the insurance they pay. There’s a reason Tesla are offering their own insurance, it’s a mechanism to avoid companys that are risk adverse not offering a service to potential Tesla drivers.

Calling body panels “chassis” already is giving me the hives :) rear impacts are unlikey to deploy any systems. If you are better informed fire over your CV.
 
And yet you are the one typing things which do not address the original point which was:

G-Man said:
And as soon as the insurance companies figure out how expensive repairing these one peice castings is the insurance costs will rocket even more than normal for a Model 3....
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The reality is that if the section of the car replaced with single piece casting is damaged in a collision, its going to be written off by the insurance company and not repaired. Whether it was a single piece or multiple pieces welded together, the car is going to be a mess and it is going to be written off.

P.S. Tesla don't offer insurance in the U.K.
 
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