The Witcher 2 - Thread

gilljoy · 28 May 2011 at 14:57

Really really enjoyed this game, gona replay it today. Want to see the different second part

Pighardia · 28 May 2011 at 15:37

Smite said:
Nah, but see, it gives your choices immense weight beyond a few different lines of text or something. IMO, if you could access everything regardless of choices, that would degrade your choices more. Also, first time through, you don't really know about this stuff, so you choose what you like.

Alexrose1uk said:
Exactly, it's kinda the whole point.
You can play the game through several times and get a different experience, different endings, which offers a huge amount of replayability. That decisions can affect event several chapters ahead also lends and unpredictability to events and a deeper experience.

Most games once you've played them through, there's nothing new to see, with games like this, whilst there is common ground, you can play it through several times and find new things each time.

I understand what you are saying, but i think it has the opposite effect, rendering the choice/no choice pointless.

You play the first time choosing one side, then the 2nd time you play it, there is no choice because you HAVE to choose a certain way in order to get the new area/different characters etc. (if you want to)

To me, that renders the choices you make pretty much irrelevant tbh, as you are not making a choice in the game world with regards to the story, you are simply doing what you have to in order to get the extra content. It is forcing you to make a decision which might be completely out of character for you.

It seemed like a good idea, but in practice it has the reverse effect imo. More choice actually restricts you more, especially the 2nd time you play.

BTW, the resaon that i kind of have a problem with this is really down to the amount of content that you will miss out on, as opposed to the choices themselves

Anyway, back on track i have just completed chapter 1, sided with Iorveth.

Paul_cz · 28 May 2011 at 15:39

The first time you are playing, you are making choices as you feel them. Those are probably choices you are satisfied with and will import those to next game.

Ability to choose differently and see different point of view is a bonus for those that want to replay the game.

Pighardia · 28 May 2011 at 15:43

Paul_cz said:
The first time you are playing, you are making choices as you feel them. Those are probably choices you are satisfied with and will import those to next game.

Ability to choose differently and see different point of view is a bonus for those that want to replay the game.

I ammended my post to make it a bit clearer ( i think

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Basically, having the choices are great, but it is the amount of content that you will miss out on if you do not choose a certain path that i don't really like. For example, it is like they have built 4 great game areas, but you only have access to 4 unless you make certain decisions.

I chose a side because i wanted to, i don't want to have to play through it again and make a different decision in order to go somewhere else, that is why i made the decision in the frist place.

ColdAsIce · 28 May 2011 at 16:02

Pighardia you would be impossible to please tbh. This is the only way it can be done.

Pighardia · 28 May 2011 at 16:05

ColdAsIce said:
Pighardia you would be impossible to please tbh. This is the only way it can be done.

I am pleased

Loving the game, it's just this aspect of the game which i don't really like tbh.

ColdAsIce · 28 May 2011 at 16:08

Such is life

you make choices and live with those consequences

if you want to see different stuff then you need to make different choices :x

Cat_In_Pyjamas · 28 May 2011 at 16:09

Pighardia said:
I understand what you are saying, but i think it has the opposite effect, rendering the choice/no choice pointless.

You play the first time choosing one side, then the 2nd time you play it, there is no choice because you HAVE to choose a certain way in order to get the new area/different characters etc. (if you want to)

To me, that renders the choices you make pretty much irrelevant tbh, as you are not making a choice in the game world with regards to the story, you are simply doing what you have to in order to get the extra content. It is forcing you to make a decision which might be completely out of character for you.

It seemed like a good idea, but in practice it has the reverse effect imo. More choice actually restricts you more, especially the 2nd time you play.

BTW, the resaon that i kind of have a problem with this is really down to the amount of content that you will miss out on, as opposed to the choices themselves

Anyway, back on track i have just completed chapter 1, sided with Iorveth.

Your main problem is that you are applying meta game thinking ('i will miss content') and opposing it ('that's not how my character would act') at the same time. If you want to play in character then the content you 'miss' should not concern you as your character simply doesn't know what he's missing. My advice is: don't concern yourself with what you may potentially miss out on and just roll with how you currently view your character. Finish the game then take a break and on your next playthrough just make a different mental image of your character and roll with that. End of the day the game has 16 different endings which leaves you plenty of choice on your way.

Calabi · 28 May 2011 at 16:12

Pighardia said:
I understand what you are saying, but i think it has the opposite effect, rendering the choice/no choice pointless.

You play the first time choosing one side, then the 2nd time you play it, there is no choice because you HAVE to choose a certain way in order to get the new area/different characters etc. (if you want to)

To me, that renders the choices you make pretty much irrelevant tbh, as you are not making a choice in the game world with regards to the story, you are simply doing what you have to in order to get the extra content. It is forcing you to make a decision which might be completely out of character for you.

It seemed like a good idea, but in practice it has the reverse effect imo. More choice actually restricts you more, especially the 2nd time you play.

BTW, the resaon that i kind of have a problem with this is really down to the amount of content that you will miss out on, as opposed to the choices themselves

Anyway, back on track i have just completed chapter 1, sided with Iorveth.

So what would be the answer having games with no choices at all ever because they always all meaningless?

Personally I am playing it through and making the choices now the way I want to because I want to(some of them may have been bad ones because of that). Next time I might decide to game it and choose the other choices, but it doesnt make my previous choices in the first playthrough meaningless. I have many sides to my character I could choose one way one playthrough and another in the other, and they could both be me according to my character. Especially in this game where there is no clear win, you will get more loot and exp etc. Its mostly just about how you decide to judge things at the time. Like shall I feed these guys to the wraith or not.

I cannot fathom your reasoning at all.

Pighardia · 28 May 2011 at 16:23

Calabi said:
So what would be the answer having games with no choices at all ever because they always all meaningless?

I cannot fathom your reasoning at all.

As i have already said, i love having choices in games, just not to the extent that it changes this much. ( the area that the game takes place in) I would not mind if the story was completely different but set in the same place depending on which side you choose (as far as i can tell, you are going to head for the same city anyway, where Triss is, is that right?). It just seems a shame that they have created areas (presumably large?) that you can not access in one playthrough

Paul_cz · 28 May 2011 at 17:22

But that is part of the consequence and exactly why it is so awesome. Oh well.

Limenote · 28 May 2011 at 17:30

still playing the first game, I LOVE the how the choices are just one or the other, its not good or bad, the choices I have made so far have ended with a bad consequence but I imagine if I picked differently it would just be a different kind of bad, this in my opinion is a great way to free the player from "perfect play through" stigma that effects my gaming habits. sorry ive not got around to playing the sequel yet, but everything is see of the game looks structurally still very similar

SS-89 · 28 May 2011 at 18:03

Pighardia said:
As i have already said, i love having choices in games, just not to the extent that it changes this much. ( the area that the game takes place in) I would not mind if the story was completely different but set in the same place depending on which side you choose (as far as i can tell, you are going to head for the same city anyway, where Triss is, is that right?). It just seems a shame that they have created areas (presumably large?) that you can not access in one playthrough

Oh dear, the decision you made was entirely based on what you thought you would do in that situation. The rest is irrelevant. Your thirst for shallow consequences can be quenched in another game. There is actually more content for you to potentially explore in subsequent playthroughs than playing in the exact same areas. I guess some people can never be pleased.

Last Kronin · 28 May 2011 at 18:15

Id the logon servers down for registering? uninstalled and re-installed to get the 1.1 pacth but cant register my game as it says the password is wrong which im sure it isnt but clicked the button for reset password but still no email, this was about 4hrs ago.

Deception · 28 May 2011 at 18:30

Im getting a weird problem with Witcher 2. It was playing fine, but ever since I did a re-install of Windows, starting the game up causes it to jitter and slow down and Ive updated everything including Graphics Drivers etc. Has anyone else had this issue?

*Edit* I take that back. Fixed it.. Bloody 3D vision drivers!

Cat_In_Pyjamas · 28 May 2011 at 18:32

Last Kronin said:
Id the logon servers down for registering? uninstalled and re-installed to get the 1.1 pacth but cant register my game as it says the password is wrong which im sure it isnt but clicked the button for reset password but still no email, this was about 4hrs ago.

A page ago I warned people not to reset passwords

You sure it said PW incorrect and not login incorrect? You may be waiting quite a bit - I still haven't received any emails about my pw being reset or anything from their CS

Pighardia · 28 May 2011 at 18:44

SS-89 said:
Oh dear, the decision you made was entirely based on what you thought you would do in that situation. The rest is irrelevant. Your thirst for shallow consequences can be quenched in another game. There is actually more content for you to potentially explore in subsequent playthroughs than playing in the exact same areas. I guess some people can never be pleased.

Once again, i am pleased, i am very much enjoying the game. i was just saying that this is one aspect of the game that i do not particularly like, that's all. It is not spoiling my enjoyment of the game at all.

Your thirst for shallow consequences can be quenched in another game.

. I might never want to choose the other option is my point. Now i might feel that i have to in order to see the rest of the game, which seems like a shallow consequence to me

Pighardia · 28 May 2011 at 18:46

BTW, what is everyones opinion of Depth of Field, i am thinking it looks better off, but i've seen people specifically praising it's use in this game?

KrooKedUK · 28 May 2011 at 18:55

Yeah I have to agree with you Pighardia, it's not realistic and looks a lot better without IMO.

Paul_cz · 28 May 2011 at 21:17

I love how depth of field is used here, give the game movie like look, but to each his own.
Good thing it can be customised either way.