This is why people are losing respect for the police...

[Uther]

That lawyers seeing the £ signs now.

 

[The_One]

Wonder what the publics view would be had there been extra footage before this showing the suspects throwing punches on female officers

 

[Uther]

Wonder what the publics view would be had there been extra footage before this showing the suspects throwing punches on female officers

Doubt it would have made any difference to the ones outside the police station protesting.

 

[TheVoice]

Bit of a tenuous link for an anecdote, but my wife’s cousin’s husband works for a Police force here in the north west, and part of what he does touches on recruitment, and he quite often finds that candidates they reject as unsuitable for the role suddenly turn up a few months later working for one of the bigger forces, namely the Met, and as in this case, GMP. And the force he works for has a recruitment shortfall, yet still rejects these people, while those bigger forces must be in a so much worse situation that I guess they have no option but to take them.

During the previous government's push for police officer recruitment - with the threat of funding being withheld if recruitment targets were not met - some forces (including MPS) were contacting those who had previously failed recruitment/vetting inviting them to re-apply.

 

[Kill_Phil]

Wonder what the publics view would be had there been extra footage before this showing the suspects throwing punches on female officers

Wouldn't be surprised if it exists. Still doesn't make a difference, officer has let himself down big time

 

[darkgen]

Wouldn't be surprised if it exists. Still doesn't make a difference, officer has let himself down big time

Irrespective of what happened before. Booting a prone guy on the deck, followed up a stomp is wholly unnecessary. when you also then take in to account a woman cowering over him, trying to pull him away from the stomp. Come on eh.

 

[Uther]

I can see him doing jail time for it tbh.

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

That would have been there already, they don't just develop overnight but it's presented in the reporting without any context leaving the possible impression to the unaware that something additionally bad has happened and been shown on a CT scan as a result of the kick, rather than the CT scan revealing something that was already there.

What are you talking about, these brain injuries happen quickly because of serious impact injuries. Do you also dispute boxers developing brain tumors the same night after they've been bashed in the head? The brain injury is clearly from being booted in the head and stomped in the head.

 

[200sols]

Its widely reported

Probably less prominent on the guardian

 

[darkgen]

I can see him doing jail time for it tbh.

Rightly so. Higher powers beget higher responsibility and accountability. Firearm officers are "supposed" to the Police elite of professionalism and candour. Pretty damning the more I ruminate on it.

 

[Werewolf]

This is slightly dodgy reporting, especially given the "community tensions:

Family lawyer gives major update on victim kicked in head by police - live

Greater Manchester Police has suspended an employee after a shocking video showing an officer kick and stamp on a man at Manchester Airport went viral this week

www.mirror.co.uk

That would have been there already, they don't just develop overnight but it's presented in the reporting without any context leaving the possible impression to the unaware that something additionally bad has happened and been shown on a CT scan as a result of the kick, rather than the CT scan revealing something that was already there.

Actually things like cysts can develop very quickly after an injury.

And actual medical staff will likely be able to tell the difference between something that has possibly been there for ages, and something that has developed due to a recent incident as there are a load of different types of cysts and causes and things like CT and MRI's can differentiate between say a cyst that is fairly solid or a cyst that has filled with a liquid like blood.

As someone else has said, there is a lot of experience of trauma induced cysts and brain injuries due to impacts thanks to the like of boxing.

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

Wonder what the publics view would be had there been extra footage before this showing the suspects throwing punches on female officers

Let's say person A witnesses person B breaking Person C's nose. Is it then legally acceptable for Person A to kill Person B?

That's taking your example to the extreme but it was possible that kicking and stomping on someone's head could have been fatal.

 

[The_One]

Let's say person A witnesses person B breaking Person C's nose. Is it then legally acceptable for Person A to kill Person B?

That's taking your example to the extreme but it was possible that kicking and stomping on someone's head could have been fatal.

A single punch to someones face can also be fatal so whats your point?

 

[TonTom]

Doubt it would have made any difference to the ones outside the police station protesting.

Their wives would certainly be having flashbacks.

 

[Brazo]

Where is this being reported?

The number of people in this thread who are unaware of the reported circumstances is shocking!

Not as shocking as the fact that (and of course if we are to believe the reported circumstances and no reason not to) the scumbag(s) who attacked and injured the police aren’t in jail!!

 

[Rroff]

Count themselves lucky it was in the uk, a spanish airport and the civil guard wouldnt of messed about either but they would have waited until in the van

Know a couple of people who got on the wrong side of it in Ibiza, didn't get much comeback either.

Don't have much sympathy from me though, typical brit abroad type who don't think there are consequences (EDIT: Some assumptions on my part but I'm pretty sure that is how it went down from previous experiences).

 

[arknor]

It's certainly not the case that such an action would never be justified but the perceived danger posed would have to be immediate and severe.

yea like the guy holding a grenade and trying to pull the pin whilst under the influence of a tazer

maybe a kick in the head would fit then

Wonder what the publics view would be had there been extra footage before this showing the suspects throwing punches on female officers

her being female shouldn't play a role, shes supposed to be able to do the job as good as any man.


maybe its a time female officers stopped serving on the front lines where physical violence could break out.


at least the little dumpy ones who would struggle to tie a shoelace

Some extremely diverse crowds out in force tonight in Manchester to protest:

Law and order needs a come back it seems, justice by mob has no place in this country, save that kinda stuff for Pakistan where they drag people out of police stations and stone them

 

[The_One]

yea like the guy holding a grenade and trying to pull the pin whilst under the influence of a tazer

maybe a kick in the head would fit then



her being female shouldn't play a role, shes supposed to be able to do the job as good as any man.


maybe its a time female officers stopped serving on the front lines where physical violence could break out.


at least the little dumpy ones who would struggle to tie a shoelace

Of course it makes a diff shes female

Shows the mentality of the offenders assaulting a female

 

[arknor]

Of course it makes a diff shes female

she is just a police officer surely? with equality why does sex matter?

she can either do the job, or she can't



you wouldn't see an attack on a man as more severe if it were a small harmless looking guy? plenty of men can't defend themselves very well either, but no distinction is made

 

[GarethSouthgate]

Of course it makes a diff shes female

Shows the mentality of the offenders assaulting a female

Women box these days m8