This is why people are losing respect for the police...

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Ayahuasca said:
TheVoice said:
Planned event vs spontaneous event (i.e.lots of cancelled rest days), and there are at least three forces in London who can provide resources.
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Doesn't spontaneous mean spur of the moment? not planned as in ringing around all your family members, never even planned or talked about at the local mosque.



The only difference is one is legal with permission, the other is just a renta mob
 
arknor said:
Doesn't spontaneous mean spur of the moment? not planned as in ringing around all your family members, never even planned or talked about at the local mosque.
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Spontaneous as in it wasn't posted about on social media all week giving the police ample time to plan ahead.

gavinh87 said:
So what you are saying is if we were to be attacked we should ask the attackers do give us notice first so we can prepare?
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No, I'm saying that London has more officers who can be deployed to a planned protest than West Yorkshire Police has who can be deployed to an unplanned one. I'm not sure what part of that single sentence was open to interpretation.
 
Caracus2k said:
The police officer was still wrong to kick the man on the ground, and should face suitable consequences.... But there quite rightly should be trouble if the males they were dealing with aren't charged and convicted as well...
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Completely agree. I’d want to kick that fool in the head repeatedly too if he’d punched my friends to that degree, kids got hands, especially the punch to the back of the head from the officer pointing a taser elsewhere not looking.

But that doesn’t mean it’s legal or right to do so.
 
And finally we see some context, which changes nothing. The two individuals were not minding their own business and set upon for no reason, they need to be charged in a court of law and the new footage is ample evidence that they'll be found guilty. After he's been tasered though, and is on the floor, a trained police officer isn't there to exact revenge as tempting as it might be.
 
Caracus2k said:
The police officer was still wrong to kick the man on the ground, and should face suitable consequences.... But there quite rightly should be trouble if the males they were dealing with aren't charged and convicted as well...
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I have seen it claimed that the men refused a security check. In an airport I would expect that to be a life-limiting move with the police immediately drawing weapons and demanding immediate compliance.
 
Aye the new videos proves or adds very little. I'm all for robust and forceful policing and to be fair this is what should have occurred here but the one copper over-stepped that line with the extra kick, stomp and knee to the back and then without first securing the first suspect starts popping at the other.

I hope all are charged accordingly.
 
darkgen said:
Aye the new videos proves or adds very little. I'm all for robust and forceful policing and to be fair this is what should have occurred here but the one copper over-stepped that line with the extra kick, stomp and knee to the back and then without first securing the first suspect starts popping at the other.

I hope all are charged accordingly.
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Well it proves what many suspected, this victim card they've been playing is utter rubbish.
 
That's self defence for me, cop got punched a bunch of times by 2 guys, miracle he was able to get it under control at all. He is 1v2 so he has to use extra force to compensate for being outnumbered and hurt. I don't think it quite registered the taser went off as it happened during a fall, it's like when boxers punch after the bell rings.
 
throwaway4372 said:
That's self defence for me, cop got punched a bunch of times by 2 guys, miracle he was able to get it under control at all. He is 1v2 so he has to use extra force to compensate for being outnumbered and hurt. I don't think it quite registered the taser went off as it happened during a fall, it's like when boxers punch after the bell rings.
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He had a weapon to defend (plus his colleagues) in a extremely stressful situation. As I said earlier those guys have definitely done at least boxing training.
That woman PC is hero getting her nose broke yet still managing to taser him.
 
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Caracus2k said:
The police officer was still wrong to kick the man on the ground, and should face suitable consequences.... But there quite rightly should be trouble if the males they were dealing with aren't charged and convicted as well...

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Looks like the scumbag who got the head boot was the one who attacked at least two female officers and broke the nose of one of them. Piece of filth needs the book thrown at him.
 
SkodaMart said:
He had a weapon to defend (plus his colleagues) in a extremely stressful situation. As I said earlier those guys have definitely done at least boxing training.
That woman PC is hero getting her nose broke yet still managing to taser him.
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While I don't think the suspect's intention was to go for the gun - he grabbed the officer near the gun and probably gave the impression in the heat of the moment he was going for it.

Also gave 2-3 full hits to the back of the officer's head as well as previously thrusting at him in a manner which could have been interpreted as going for the gun :s I can't say it justified the boot to the face but certainly would have me making sure the suspect was pretty certain about not trying anything again.
 
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