Bit of a strange position to take, I would consider the safety of the officers paramount.
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This is why people are losing respect for the police...
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I disagree.
The police absolutely have the right to act accordingly to a situation. That includes defending themself.
I get the cop's reaction. He's been battered, his mates have been battered. There's more than one opponent. He has to make it one on one, and shoeing someone in the face works. He's then gone for a stamp.
In the cold light of day it looks bad.
He's attempting to control the situation, but he's gone beyond there.
I sympathise with him, I do. I'd do the same, but if I got picked up I'd probably get done for it.
The police are held to a higher standard.
are we not allowed to criticise the actions of the police? how is that defending the attackers?????????
it was over and he chose to stick a few digs in... its a personal assault at that point... he's clearly aware its all over.
I don't support officers with "red mist" they are meant to be trained professionals who act with restraint and control.
He clearly did not.
someone punching him doesn't change that, I have no issues with the actions prior to the head kick/stomp on a tased person, police training probably says they mishandled the situation and should have been more aware of the other people around them.
the guy who comes from behind should never have been allowed to happen, but that does';'t justify his actions either
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If he's investigated, that investigation has to run its course, which includes possible disciplinary action.
Your second and third paragraph, I completely understand and (mostly) agree.
The issue is: it looks bad and it's public.
I think he was being sarcastic.
Yes the investigation should have run its course; but without political interference - can this officer receive a fair hearing now?
It looked inexcusable with initial curated footage - I think most now have a different picture now.
And yet the information about what happened before the initial video was widely available. The daft ********** (not you btw!) on here chose to ignore that or even question the validity of the BBC reporting as a coping mechanism!
Instead they chose to defend the rights of violent criminals who had attacked Police officers.
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Heh, it's all political, all the time. The senior management will be well aware of that. They will be under pressure to "do something" and it takes a lot of guts to resist that.
Yeah, there was always more to it than the initial, highly partial, video. As I said, I sympathise with the cop, and understand why he did that.
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It sounds like his assembled group were committing various violent crimes. Let's be honest they're a rebranded Combat 18 and that is a terror group under every metric.
Nine arrests at Tommy Robinson demonstration after thousands march in London
More than 1,000 Met Police officers were mobilised in London to ‘keep the peace’ between three protests
www.independent.co.uk
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It sounds like his assembled group were committing various violent crimes. Let's be honest they're a rebranded Combat 18 and that is a terror group under every metric.
Nine arrests at Tommy Robinson demonstration after thousands march in London
More than 1,000 Met Police officers were mobilised in London to ‘keep the peace’ between three protests
I'm no fan of Tommy but 9 arrests for the amount of people that turned up, doesn't seem a lot to me, especially for a far right group.
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They aren’t far right!
The majority are just normal citizens (with some football firms thrown in admittedly)
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These are the same EDL yobs who'd march through Pakistani areas, make heil hitler salutes - they're caught on camera doing it, trespass in mosques without removing their shoes, smashed up take aways, get into fights with locals and so on.
My mistake, it seems the crime he's been done for is breaching a court order. He was found guilty of libel, towards a schoolboy. He's now continuing to defame this school boy against the courts order
Tommy Robinson faces jail after playing 'libellous' film to London protesters
Tommy Robinson is facing jail after playing a “libellous” film to thousands of protesters gathered in Trafalgar Square.
www.telegraph.co.uk
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He was committing libel, which he's already been found guilty of and ordered by a court to cease and desist. He's literally still harassing a schoolboy, who he's been ordered by a court to leave alone. Breaching court orders is a crime in the UK. Good luck sticking up 2 fingers to a judge. See the article I posted above for details
Hopefully TR and the 2 thugs both get lengthy sentences though
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thats the fault of politicians not the police, we have political policing.
All the LGBT crap and pride cars should never have been allowed into the police either... keep all agendas and politics out of the police.
Everyone should be treated equally and if a mob forms disperse them...
lets face it that police station was basically under siege with barricades at the main entrance... and masked men pelting it...
They need to ban hiding your face in public full stop.... I don't care if its against peoples religion... its been abused for far too long
see too many oiks riding scooters like that, I'ma start booting them off if they ride close enough to me, they go through parks like they are looking for victims.
Lettiing people ride illegal electric motor bikes for so many years sems to have made people think they can do what they want..
If I go for a walk I'm almost guaranteed to see at least one or two, often fully grown men commuting, people ride them like they have diplomatic immunity
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What are you suggesting is anti-cop specifically? Is anyone with the opinion that the cop was not justified now anti-cop?
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I don't know much about what happened to Jamel, the school kid that supposedly got waterboarded, was all the stuff in TR doc false? Did the council not really pay everyone off to keep silent?
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Don't think they have heard of "unreasonable force" before
Any use of physical action by a police officer that is too heavy-handed in the context of the situation may be considered excessive force or police battery.
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