what like the 20bn blackhole
This is why people are losing respect for the police...
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So you concur that the country is declining and we may go to routine arming - whether soon or 'decades away'?
I would ask, why are heading this way and what can be done about it now to prevent this path.
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"Mr Yakoob is no longer acting for the family, which has instructed a new lawyer."
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You must be American, it was obvious sarcasm!
No I don't, I was addressing your concern of UK policing adopting some kind of radical US-style approach to arming and use of lethal force. Whatever rapid decline you perceive, the discussions around routine arming have been going on for decades already and will continue to do so. Realistically the metrics that will be used to decide will be terrorist attacks and gun crime, but I don't think any of the decision makers want to be having those discussions at the moment.
Childish, but expected.
Correct, but what about the rest? Should all that be ignored? Really?
What he has shown the public is maybe worth the grief and prison time to him? At least someone has the balls to confront the rape gangs etc etc and the corrupt media who are only interested in clicks and their own agenda (much like some on here).
Go watch "The rape of Britain" and especially the interviews with the then child rape victims and the trauma they've suffered and still do. (I'll wait for the usual member to say he was jailed for screwing up a court case, but then it was ruled as an unlawful sentence).
You're trying your very best to deflect away from the attention he's brought to the general public about how corrupt the system is without a single concern to the people we really should be caring about.
Good job mate, keep your head well and truly in the sand.
*slow clap
interesting points made here ,
LEAKED VIDEO: Police at Manchester Airport WHAT REALLY HAPPENED!
The video we NEEDED TO SEE - British armed police assaulted by two men who attack them all!Support the police, this is NOT acceptable in the UK!Life lessons ...youtu.be
Personal opinion made from watching various videos of this etc, stomp maybe ott but given the whole situation adrenaline came into play. needs a slap on the wrist at most.
Well they weren't stopping, one had already launched himself into the rear of one of the police officers dealing with one of them and a police officer by that stage had already been impeded by a broken nose. It was a fast moving situation which could have seen an officer overwhelmed and losing their fire arm. It was right for these thugs / potential terrorists to have been subdued which meant using feet as their hands are kept free for fire arms. If you don't want a good shoeing then don't resist arrest and worse still pick a full on fight with fire arms officers or any officers for that matter.
If one of them had got hold of a fire arm then it would have entered a whole other territory and would likely have had to be taken out, so a lot worse than a shoeing.
Silly individuals with no respect for the law and should not be grifting for compensation but rather should be charged for their NHS usage, followed by being deported or a good spell in jail.
Officer should be back on duty.
Jon, Toomy never bothered with the rape gangs until they were public news thanks to the work of people that actually cared about it and not just making some money out of it, his one "contribution" to "raising awareness" was to very nearly get at least one of a linked set of very complex trials thrown out due to his filming in restricted areas with the high potential of showing the faces of the jury and the victims.
He was warned about it, but continued to do it. which either shows a level of dedication to the cause of getting the trial abandoned, to getting some headlines for himself, or that he failed to understand stuff 16 year old YTS lads were expected to know back in the days of the local papers covering court cases.
It came very close to at best a complete retrial, which would have cost the country a fortune, and more importantly would have required the victims to give evidence again of which there is no certainty they would have been able to, and potentially the entire case (or multiple cases) being completely abandoned as too tainted to continue with.
He's not a hero, he's a grifter, a convicted fraudster, a convicted immigration offender and basically someone who'll do anything (including forcing a mistrial on a major rape case) to rile up the racists and earn some more dosh.
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So bringing up the fact TR kicking a police officer in the head after beating up his girlfriend is 'childish' and 'burying my head in the sand'. But you ignoring it isn't burying your head in the sand, right? Your happy to support a woman beating, police beating scumbag, right?
I'm sure there are Asian criminals who are scumbags, but TR is a violent criminal who associates with other violent criminals while attempting to stir up racial tensions.
TR has peadophiles he has associated within the EDL, funny he is happy being friends with them ignoring their crimes while pointing out another races is crimes. It's almost like he's biased.
TR was a drug dealer for Pakistanis in his youth, he was a wife beater, he's a repeat career criminal, he's a football hooligan guilty of all manner of violence.
He's also a massive fraud, he committed fraud and was jailed for it and also because he scams right wingers like you out of money while being fraudulent about his actual name
You'd think we were voting for a global wef government...
We already spend more on hotels than a lot of countries have GDP...
Imagine being in debt but still giving your money away to charities etc.... people would think you were insane
They need to start running the country like a house we all live in.
What the gov do is more akin to a gambling or drug addict
we have to give money abroad to fight climate change.... and at the same time money we also can't afford on carbon neutral crap in the UK.
why not mine the oil reserves and donate a percent to climate change instead... seems more like common sense.
Politicians are still trapped in some ivory bubble rich country because they don't use public services or the NHS they have no clue how ordinary folk are...
maybe they could a ride in the areas they represent. and look around with their own eyes for once, But I'm guessing they wouldn't "feel safe" with a police detachment.
Meanwhile the rest of us have to manup or live with the fear
I'm with this statement if he comes out and says there's no justification for attacking a police officer and those who did should be charged
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I don't 'perceive' anything - the country is in a state of decline:
These are the top 5 threats to the UK, 4 & 5?
Rising State threats are a huge challenge. Since the start of 2017, MI5 and the police have together disrupted 37 late-stage attack plots. That’s another 8 potentially-deadly plots disrupted. And as before it’s a mix of Islamist and extreme right-wing terrorism. Islamist Terrorism remains the larger problem – about three quarters of the terrorist caseload. As previously, much of the volume is self-radicalised terrorists seeking to conduct low-sophistication attacks. There has been further growth in attempts to acquire weapons - firearms in particular, whether illegally obtained, homemade or 3D-printed.
I speak from personal experience.
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Yes, i'm very well aware of his past, and I'm certainly not trying to portray him as some sort of hero (despite what AG thinks or not).
However, as I've said, he has highlighted an awful lot of problems in society (whether it's for his own gain or not, and having his head smashed in clink/constant death threats to him and his kids doesn't seem like a gain) and that imo is not a bad thing.
As for him being a grifter (I'm not disagreeing with you) one only has to look at any number of people in the political sphere/media who are no better or in fact are much much worse, yet they don't seem to get demonised as much.
He's brought to the forefront a lot of stuff that a lot of those in power don't want in the public space, and for that I applaud him, more should do it (legally)
I'm hardly alone looking at the people that attended the rally this weekend.
The average Joe on the street is concerned about the direction of our country and it'll only get amplified more and more as our useless government (Tory/Labour) ignore the peoples concerns.
Thanks for the summary.
Though I find it disturbing that a judge is banning me and you from seeing a film.
I'm getting sick of censorship, and geo-locking too.
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You must think the way MI7 or the media tell you too!
If someone slandered your child and it was a grifter with a substantial platform, would you be happy if they ignored a cease-and-desist order and went ahead releasing a film harassing them further?
The judge didn't ban people from seeing it. It's been out there for a while if you really wanted to watch it. He ordered Tommy not to release it in the UK or play it in public here.
Once again, people are conflating different issues.
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The Tories didn’t ignore your concerns they poured petrol on the flames to make sure you were looking the other way when they robbed you blind. Tommy does the same he jumps on the band wagon, stokes up the fire then puts his hand out for some cash. If you think Tommy is the answer you are asking the wrong questions!
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