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This is why people are losing respect for the police...
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That was last year, they made the pledge towards the end of the year (September) so you'd need to see figures for this year surely?
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Looks like an out-take from the British version of The Keystone Cops...
Cringe worthy stuff.
Cringe worthy stuff.
But that's the issue being pointed out, they don't necessarily prioritize well and they do waste time on rather more trivial things than burglaries. Yes funding would be nice too but that doesn't absolve anyone of the criticisms re: wasting time and resources that they do have too.
I don’t think hate crime with potential escalation to breach of the peace or even public order is a waste of time, Vs attending someone who left their window open, went out for the day, and had their tv remote control and £2.30 in change stolen on arrival back home, with zero evidence the tv remote even existed.
There are already calls for it to be attacked.
As should any Nazi run business.
Leeds cafe vandalised after racist incident points to interests in Neo-Nazis
Co-owner of Temple Coffee and Donuts Simon Erl is alleged to have far right interests
www.leeds-live.co.uk
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The incident re: the Twitter comments was not only not a crime (or hate crime) but shouldn't have even had efforts wasted on it as a non-crime hate investigation, that's been made clear in court already. The College of Policing's guidance was found to be seriously flawed. Holding a political opinion or telling a joke like that in ref to ideology doesn't require police time.
As for equating burglaries to staying a £2.30 remote through an open window, I don't know why you're trying to downplay burglaries with comments like that:
Burglary Statistics UK
When a burglar enters a victim's home, they typically cause £1,413 worth of damage, steal £2,856 of goods and leave 84% of victims in emotional distress. How do burglars typically gain entry, what do they steal and how often is someone at home during a burglary? The answers might surprise you.
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The incident re: the Twitter comments was not only not a crime (or hate crime) but shouldn't have even had efforts wasted on it as a non-crime hate investigation, that's been made clear in court already. The College of Policing's guidance was found to be seriously flawed. Holding a political opinion or telling a joke like that in ref to ideology doesn't require police time.
As for equating burglaries to staying a £2.30 remote through an open window, I don't know why you're trying to downplay burglaries with comments like that:
Burglary Statistics UK
When a burglar enters a victim's home, they typically cause £1,413 worth of damage, steal £2,856 of goods and leave 84% of victims in emotional distress. How do burglars typically gain entry, what do they steal and how often is someone at home during a burglary? The answers might surprise you.www.nimblefins.co.uk
And I would expect a burglary that left someone distressed with £1000’s lost to be attended? But let’s not pretend all burglaries are the same.
I don’t know anything about the twitter thing, I’m talking about people complaining about officers going to the pub.
I totally agree the perception is poor hence why many forces are making strides to change that, but it's going to come at a cost in some form because resourcing all those burglary calls is going to mean something else isn't getting done elsewhere.
The perception that mean tweets get policed while other crimes don't tends to be based on the same few examples being brought up time and time again, as opposed to the reality of what's going on. Every single force puts out a tiny fraction of the work they do on social media, there are plenty of examples out there of good police work to be found, but typically that won't get the coverage.
Neither are social or mental health issues but that's what's tying up police resources, not the "anti-woke" social media stuff. The police have found themselves as the service of last resort, unable and/or unwilling to say no and so they're filling in for other agencies that have also had their budgets and staffing decimated.
On the subject of public perception: When people call an ambulance and there isn't an ambulance available, it's the fault of the government for not providing adequate funding and staffing; when people call the police and there isn't a police officer available, it's because the police are incompetent and lazy.
Who is pretending that? You've thrown in some downplaying comment about a remote control being stolen from an open window, I've given you actual stats re: the average burglary.
So it seems that when presented with the reality of the situation you actually agree that you would expect the police to attend... if some forces are only attending a quarter of burglaries and that's the average loss then they are likely failing to attend plenty of burglaries with £1000s lost:
Police forces only attend a quarter of burglaries
Avon and Somerset sent an officer to just 25 per cent of break-ins, according to figures obtained under Freedom of Information laws.
Clearly, other forces are able to and have chosen to as policy.
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Please cite reliable sources, not the Daily Mail.Police forces only attend a quarter of burglaries
Avon and Somerset sent an officer to just 25 per cent of break-ins, according to figures obtained under Freedom of Information laws.www.dailymail.co.uk
Clearly, other forces are able to and have chosen to as policy.
It was a Telegraph investigation but that's behind the pay wall... it's a lame cop-out to ignore facts though just because you don't like the editorial stance.
I’m not going to get into the ins and outs of the British gutter press with you, I require decent sources, simple.
Either way, burglary attendance is far from necessary in many cases. More than 25% I would agree, but less than 100%.
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The White Hart, oh deer me, that's appalling...
How many White Hart pubs are there in England?
There are also 313 White Harts, 293 Ploughs, 286 Swans, 285 Railways, 281 White Horses, 243 Kings Arms, and 242 pubs called The Ship. This includes pubs which are better known as an inn, hotel, pub, tavern, bar or public house, or simply include the article “the” in their names, such as The Vine Inn, for example.25 Apr 2021
It's the 4th most common pub name in England.
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The White Hart, oh deer me, that's appalling...
How many White Hart pubs are there in England?
There are also 313 White Harts, 293 Ploughs, 286 Swans, 285 Railways, 281 White Horses, 243 Kings Arms, and 242 pubs called The Ship. This includes pubs which are better known as an inn, hotel, pub, tavern, bar or public house, or simply include the article “the” in their names, such as The Vine Inn, for example.25 Apr 2021
It's the 4th most common pub name in England.
Did you see the husbands Facebook post? Those people are trash
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I don't use Facebook, and I'm also most unlikely to go to Essex from here for a pint, but if I did I'd be more concerned with how much the beer was, given southern prices, and what it was rather than whether there's a bleedin' gollywog hanging from the ceiling 
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I don't use Facebook, and I'm also most unlikely to go to Essex from here for a pint, but if I did I'd be more concerned with how much the beer was, given southern prices, and what it was rather than whether there's a bleedin' gollywog hanging from the ceiling
Im sure there is a special hand shake for people like you to get a cheap pint in there.
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Well no one has ever shown me anything like that, but there's not much i wouldn't try for some cheap ale given the near a fiver a pint even out here in the sticks
Now, Masons are another matter 
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A golliwog isn't illegal to have. The police were doing this kind of thing 20+ years ago with the result they had to hand them back.
They also were trying to confiscate the English flag from a persons flag pole because a passer-by was offended and made a complaint.
This is silly stuff from people who should know better.
They also were trying to confiscate the English flag from a persons flag pole because a passer-by was offended and made a complaint.
This is silly stuff from people who should know better.
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