This is why people are losing respect for the police...

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Yes but that's part of the context lots of people seem to be ignoring, we've got some dumb position by one poster that merely having police present on the day magically prevents anything form happening, no need for any proactive policing at all... back in reality that's kinda ridiculous.

The woman arrested mistakenly is clearly a screw-up by the police, apparently not the Met in that case.

The other stuff is things they do need to be cautious about, protestors locking on or trying to actively disrupt the event in some way.

This “dumb poster” is still waiting for your plan of how they lock on and block the road. It almost like you are avoiding the question but I guess I’ve only asked 5 or 6 times, we can do a few more orbits of this hole.
 
This “dumb poster” is still waiting for your plan of how they lock on and block the road. It almost like you are avoiding the question but I guess I’ve only asked 5 or 6 times, we can do a few more orbits of this hole.


What a stupid question - or do you think the Gold State Coach driver was under instructions to run over 6 luggage strapped placard waving protesters? Actually you probably do lol..
 
If I am going to do a burglary I don't consider going out in a striped top, with a mask on and a bag labelled "Swag".

So I am not entirely sure by what reasoning those wishing to thwart the authorities and spring a protest deemed it a good idea to wear clothes that stood out a mile, right from the get go.... But most are probably work shy and were similarly idle and rebellious at school, so them having much of use between the ears is probably expecting too much.

There is of course the thought that they may have wanted to be arrested before protesting as given the mood of the public these days with all the grief random protestors have caused them, they might have feared a good kicking should they have actually been enabled to do something distasteful.
 
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What a stupid question - or do you think the Gold State Coach driver was under instructions to run over 6 luggage strapped placard waving protesters? Actually you probably do lol..

As that coach past the public there were soldier-police-soldier lining the pavement for the whole route. In front of the coach there were hundreds of soldier and other service men and women and you think a protester would have got into that road? You are more deluded than I thought. You think those marching would just keep marching? They would defend their king.

dowie said it would be easy for a group to lock on and block the road, I've asked him to explain how they would do it in a way that they couldn't immediately be dragged off the road, that is what locked on means. Not that they would ever get more than 2 strides into the road but he implied it was a piece of cake.

The coach isn't even in this photo and look how many soldiers and police are blocking the public, plus the double metal barriers.

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The coach and now there are even more between the public and the road. Piece of cake getting though that lot though :rolleyes:

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Tin foil hat? Did they or did they not get arrested without actually committing any crimes or proof that a crime was going to be committed?

As explained previously, you do not need proof that a crime is going to be committed, the police just need reasonable suspicion. That's why you're arrested 'on suspicion of'. That's why we have courts.
 
As explained previously, you do not need proof that a crime is going to be committed, the police just need reasonable suspicion. That's why you're arrested 'on suspicion of'. That's why we have courts.


Again, not true, they require Reasonable suspicion AND the NEED for the arrest. Yes we have courts, it's their job to decide if people need punishing and locking up whether it is a day or 10 years not a low IQ Pc with his thin blue line badge and punisher tattoo.
 
Again, not true, they require Reasonable suspicion AND the NEED for the arrest. Yes we have courts, it's their job to decide if people need punishing and locking up whether it is a day or 10 years not a low IQ Pc with his thin blue line badge and punisher tattoo.

A reality check occurred a few days ago, on this occasion the Crown, and those beneath them hierarchically showed they can do just what the **** they like. Not often, but as demonstrated, when called for. Get over it. Just imagine what Putin would have done and be grateful.
 
As explained previously, you do not need proof that a crime is going to be committed, the police just need reasonable suspicion. That's why you're arrested 'on suspicion of'. That's why we have courts.

Exactly, that's the issue there. We've got people in this thread seemingly unaware that protestors could block roads or spray paint... as if no protestors have ever done that before. Apparently, a police presence magically solves that... but funnily enough it doesn't necessarily when don't stop oil types try it likewise football hooligans don't magically all stop being violent just because police are present at matches and sometimes they need to conduct surveillance on the crowd, ban certain people from matches, make them stay at home during European matches etc.

Likewise arresting people for going equipped is necessary, if you find some don't stop oil protestors with a load of glue and/or paint then it's pretty obvious what's about to occur and it's better you're able to arrest them before they cause damage/disruption. Ditto to a known burglar found with a set of lock picks.

None of this is particularly hard to follow but some posters are seemingly confused by it and/or pretending that people were arrested for simply protesting. The other issue of course is that the police were overly cautious here... which is quite easily understandable given the super obvious context of the event. I don't think they'd be as cautious re: people turning up at the regular changing of the guard ceremony for example. Likewise the security precautions in place for say a Joe Biden visit will obviously be erring more on the side of caution than say a visit by a local mayor to open a new leisure centre. Of course, that context is ignored too.

The lone women/royal fan who was arrested was clearly a screw-up, the protestors on the other hand much less so, they'd have far more flack if they messed up and some loons blocked a road or sprayed paint over the coach or managed to cause an issue with the horses pulling the coach or indeed the cavalry guys via setting off rape alarms or whatever the plot was supposed to be.
 
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Exactly, that's the issue there. We've got people in this thread seemingly unaware that protestors could block roads or spray paint... as if no protestors have ever done that before. Apparently, a police presence magically solves that... but funnily enough it doesn't necessarily when don't stop oil types try it likewise football hooligans don't magically all stop being violent just because police are present at matches and sometimes they need to conduct surveillance on the crowd, ban certain people from matches, make them stay at home during European matches etc.

Likewise arresting people for going equipped is necessary, if you find some don't stop oil protestors with a load of glue and/or paint then it's pretty obvious what's about to occur and it's better you're able to arrest them before they cause damage/disruption. Ditto to a known burglar found with a set of lock picks.

None of this is particularly hard to follow but some posters are seemingly confused by it and/or pretending that people were arrested for simply protesting. The other issue of course is that the police were overly cautious here... which is quite easily understandable given the super obvious context of the event. I don't think they'd be as cautious re: people turning up at the regular changing of the guard ceremony for example. Likewise the security precautions in place for say a Joe Biden visit will obviously be erring more on the side of caution than say a visit by a local mayor to open a new leisure centre. Of course, that context is ignored too.

The lone women/royal fan who was arrested was clearly a screw-up, the protestors on the other hand much less so, they'd have far more flack if they messed up and some loons blocked a road or sprayed paint over the coach or managed to cause an issue with the horses pulling the coach or indeed the cavalry guys via setting off rape alarms or whatever the plot was supposed to be.

All that fluff and still no explanation of exactly how Republic would lock on and block the road at this event. I've spent more time in orbit of this dowie hole that I have around some planets/moon I'm mining in Elite Dangerous.

Republic weren't "equipped" they carried none of those things you mention, no glue, no paint, no nothing.

And to get a footballing banning order you need to be convicted in court. No one would complain if someone convicted of offences like locking on were ordered by a court to stay away from this event. Notice the "by a court" bit, not just some random police officer or politician at the home office passing down the word.
 
I've spent more time in orbit of this dowie hole that I have around some planets/moon I'm mining in Elite Dangerous.

How can you still call something a "dowie hole" when I've not even responded to/deliberately ignored your past two posts?

This is more Colonel Kink having a rant himself hole because he's being a bit... erm... cerebrally challenged when it comes to this matter, I doubt any explanation will suffice for you and there are clearly many ways of disrupting the event as mentioned above, thus the concern from the police.
 
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How can you still call something a "dowie hole" when I've not even responded to/deliberately ignored your past two posts?

This is more Colonel Kink having a rant himself hole because he's being a bit... erm... cerebrally challenged when it comes to this matter, I doubt any explanation will suffice for you and there are clearly many ways of disrupting the event as mentioned above, thus the concern from the police.

You keep on with never admitting you were wrong dowie.
 
Here's The Guardian posting some on line video footage of North Wales Police in action. Hyper ventilating incoming from some members, no doubt at the real life "The Sweeney" action ;)



Maybe if Crims got more kick-ins from the rozzers we'd have less crims, just a thought.
 
Maybe if Crims got more kick-ins from the rozzers we'd have less crims, just a thought.
Ah yes the "good old days" when the police were allowed to beat confessions out of criminals, or just beat up anyone who they didn't like the look of.

It's amazing how some people seem to think the police using unchecked violence is in any way good.
 
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