Thor: Love and Thunder

Well that was…crap.

The start of the film set the tone for the whole thing. Bad CGI with the wrong speed and weighting to everything and all the jokes were telegraphed from a mile off or we had heard them a dozen times already.

If anyone here uses reddit it was basically a film version of /r/yourjokebutworse.

I think after that trash intro I just wasn't in the mood for the rest of it and everything started to annoy me. Zeus was rubbish and they were trying to be funny with all the other "gods" in those scenes.

Jane was magically peak Thor without any training. The romance stuff felt forced and like filler to the whole thing. It just all felt like it was trying way too hard with absolutely zero subtlety. The more I think about all the elements of it the more I dislike it. The section with the kids in the cage and the lead kid that couldn't act to save his life.

The whole thing was just a mess. Much like the latest Doctor Strange film. They all feel like they have sat around a table and said "what did people like about the marvel films" and then filled a 2-3 hour film with that. Constantly. People like Korgs little bits. Lets have loads of those. People like it when Thor is funny. Lets make every scene with Thor try and be funny.

4/10 and I feel like I really liked Ragnarok. I really like a lot of Taika Waititis output in general. This was just trash.
 
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TriedandTested said:
******* knew it! Could feel it in my bones this was gonna be a dumpster fire. Won't be seeing and, to be honest, didn't expect to.
Just knew it!

I just think back about how well recieved and how damn awesome past Marvel films were: Winter Solider, Inifinity War, so many.
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Marvel is totally in thrall to the wokists now, and far too much content crapped out in too little time with too little care for it be any good.
 
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Its just paint by numbers at this stage for Marvel. A tick box exercise.

Exaggerate anything that people like in previous films.
As many memeable moments as possible.
Strong female characters.
LGBT representation.
Massive marketing to generate hype.
Make sure there are loads of positive reviews pre-release and from the usual shills.
Profit.

At some point it becomes our fault for supporting this crap. I think that point was a few years ago now to be fair.
 
fez said:
Its just paint by numbers at this stage for Marvel. A tick box exercise.

Exaggerate anything that people like in previous films.
As many memeable moments as possible.
Strong female characters.
LGBT representation.
Massive marketing to generate hype.
Make sure there are loads of positive reviews pre-release and from the usual shills.
Profit.

At some point it becomes our fault for supporting this crap. I think that point was a few years ago now to be fair.
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There's too many people who will clap anything with their brand on it. Look at this thread for evidence of that.
 
VincentHanna said:
This thread where literally one person (@Steedie ) gave it 9/10 and then everyone else said it was "poor" "disappointing" "crap" and gave it 7/10 or less...
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I do find it really odd that people will write an assassination piece on a films quality and sign off with "7/10". In my books a 7/10 is a good film. Anything over a 7/10 is a very very good film which is rare. I really like Ragnarok and I would struggle to give it more than a 7.
 
VincentHanna said:
This thread where literally one person (@Steedie ) gave it 9/10 and then everyone else said it was "poor" "disappointing" "crap" and gave it 7/10 or less...
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Tbf, I'm a massive Thor mark so heavily biased so I enjoyed it more than most. I've also liked a lot of the less popular Thor comic runs more than most because again, I'm just a huge Thor nerd, not even in just a Marvel sense, just Norse mythology in general.

I will say that in reflection, a 9/10 may have been a little high, I have since seen it again, and when I saw it again with the excitement gone, I noticed a few things that I just thought were rushed and slotted in as a fan service and checkbox exercise as opposed to adding genuine depth or improving the story

However, it's still an 8/10, at the very least, for me. But I hope the criticism from others doesn't put Marvel off making Thor films. I'd maybe like to see a darker Thor film, in the style of Multiverse of Madness, although not quite as far as that, before Chris Hemsworth hangs it up.
 
fez said:
I do find it really odd that people will write an assassination piece on a films quality and sign off with "7/10". In my books a 7/10 is a good film. Anything over a 7/10 is a very very good film which is rare. I really like Ragnarok and I would struggle to give it more than a 7.
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Nice to see someone else who understands how a 10 scale should work.
 
Steedie said:
Tbf, I'm a massive Thor mark so heavily biased so I enjoyed it more than most. I've also liked a lot of the less popular Thor comic runs more than most because again, I'm just a huge Thor nerd, not even in just a Marvel sense, just Norse mythology in general.

I will say that in reflection, a 9/10 may have been a little high, I have since seen it again, and when I saw it again with the excitement gone, I noticed a few things that I just thought were rushed and slotted in as a fan service and checkbox exercise as opposed to adding genuine depth or improving the story

However, it's still an 8/10, at the very least, for me. But I hope the criticism from others doesn't put Marvel off making Thor films. I'd maybe like to see a darker Thor film, in the style of Multiverse of Madness, although not quite as far as that, before Chris Hemsworth hangs it up.
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I think my score of 4 would probably get lowered on a second viewing too :p

I didn't dislike the first Thor like many. Dark world was poor but again I think it gets a somewhat bad rap. Ragnarok was great, just the right blend of comedy and other elements to make it work. I just can't get my head around how L&T ended up how it did. Utter guff.
 
ianh said:
Thor as a comic book character isn't a comedian even if he occasionally is funny. The first 2 Thor MCU films were far closer to "actual" Thor, although Thor 2 was a really poor film, so his subsequent demotion to comic relief in Ragnorak was the final split between what Thor originally represented and the MCU version which is now effectively non-canon its deviated so far.

I'll still be watching it but only for the Guardians as Thor feels more like a sidekick in someone else's movies nowadays.
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Written back in April - Now the Guardians are gone within minutes I have absolutely zero desire to see Thor now or, seeing where Thor is going to continue to go, ever again.

Shame, Thor 1 was a really good film with a "funny" Thor who could also play the serious side too, someone who grew due to an actual character arc and was a much stronger person afterwards, as opposed to this "garbage comedy sidekick" Thor who I hold absolute zero desire to see.
 
i gave it a 9 out of 10 lol

That was literally after seeing it.

yes on reflection its a 7 or 8 which reflects my immature humour (goats, stupid nakedness, Zeus)
but it was "ruined" by how much that rock idiot korg character dipped his "often" unfunny pennies worth.
Its marvels Taika Waititi on a plate, not much more just a gag film, which if you are in the mood is funny.
Im so over Marvel but i like Waititi. Its just a step on his ladder.


Marivel is all used up now GOTG 3 is probably going to suck tbh...
2 sucked, i might have to re watch it to remind myself.
1 was the original marvel comedy and always will be mould breaking.
 
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