I got a while to decide, also I forgot but I got Shogun 2 for free for some promo thing a few weeks back so I could install that and see if I enjoy the style.
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I got a while to decide, also I forgot but I got Shogun 2 for free for some promo thing a few weeks back so I could install that and see if I enjoy the style.
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Sadly you not going to find much that matches an army of Hellstorm rockets
You can’t stop rock and roll
Helstorm Rockets are great. But Dwarf Master Engineers take Dwarf artillery to the next level. At one point you could hit instant reload on your artillery by stacking 6 Engineers You'd also out-range any other artillery, have close to pinpoint accuracy, and a crazy amount of ammo.
They've since nerfed that, but you can still stack (IIRC) two Engineers, which is bad enough
Skaven have a similar hero too.
Personally, I'd put the Dwarfs top. I've heard Skaven (Ikit Claw) are second (starting this campaign this evening). Third is either Empire or Vampire Coast, depending on whether you count a Necrofex doomstack with HRH Queen Bess for support, as an artillery army.
You'd also out-range any other artillery, have close to pinpoint accuracy, and a crazy amount of ammo.They've since nerfed that, but you can still stack (IIRC) two Engineers, which is bad enough
Skaven have a similar hero too. Personally, I'd put the Dwarfs top. I've heard Skaven (Ikit Claw) are second (starting this campaign this evening). Third is either Empire or Vampire Coast, depending on whether you count a Necrofex doomstack with HRH Queen Bess for support, as an artillery army.
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Wood Elves are crazy
One of my mates is terrible at map management. On the occasions I fancy an easy win, I'll run a full stack of Waywatchers. He hasn't got a hope in hell. I remember last time he was so proud because his cavalry routed a chunk (probably a good third) of my army. He was completely oblivious to the fact the other 12 units of Waywatchers had obliterated the rest of his army and then disappeared
One of my mates is terrible at map management. On the occasions I fancy an easy win, I'll run a full stack of Waywatchers. He hasn't got a hope in hell. I remember last time he was so proud because his cavalry routed a chunk (probably a good third) of my army. He was completely oblivious to the fact the other 12 units of Waywatchers had obliterated the rest of his army and then disappeared
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My Norse normal campaign has suddenly turned into easy mode
Just defeated the Chaos invasion.
I have a struggling with all the cav stacks but the vampires have wiped them out for me.
Going to work on my monster hunter book while wiping out the vamps and I also need to put the DE back in their place.
Just defeated the Chaos invasion.
I have a struggling with all the cav stacks but the vampires have wiped them out for me.
Going to work on my monster hunter book while wiping out the vamps and I also need to put the DE back in their place.
I own all DLC, only 1 I didn't really enjoy is the Beastmen.
If I had to pick 1 to buy though, it would definately be The Prophet & The Warlock.
It unlocks some great Skaven units, Ikit is so much fun to play.
Tehenhauin has a much harder start, but can be satisfying to play once you get the ball rolling.
Ok so I did that one, Vampire Coast and Tomb Kings thats £27.06
I just saw this:
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If you buy the first and second game, you'll get to play the following races in Mortal Empires:
- The Empire
- Dwarfs
- Greenskins
- Vampire Counts
- High Elves
- Dark Elves
- Lizardmen
- Skaven
- Chaos Warriors
- Wood Elves
- Beastmen
- Norsca
- Tomb Kings
- Vampire Coast
There's a lot of content without buying any DLC. And all of the DLC is in the game whether you buy it or not (buying the DLC just unlocks it for your use) so you don't really need to buy any. But if you're spending £23.58 on the two base games, you may as well round that up to ~£30 and get the £5 off. If there's nothing else you want on Steam, nab The Prophet & The Warlock plus The King & The Warlord/The Queen & The Crone/Norsca, or either of Vampire Coast or Tomb Kings.
Thank you for that! I am a bit wary of being overwhelmed with so much content that I won't even know where to start. Does each race have it's own campaign then? I've never played a TW game so it's all alien to me and the amount of content seems insane.
In the second game, there are only two campaigns.
Vortex - the main campaign. Takes place across three contents, with the main races being High Elves, Dark Elves, Skaven, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, and Vampire Coast. The first four races share essentially the same victory conditions; they're racing to take control of a magical vortex. Tomb Kings and Vampire Coast have different victory conditions. Some recent Lord Packs have added Old World races to the Vortex campaign (e.g. Huntmarshal's Expedition, Repanse de Lyonese, Grom The Paunch).
Mortal Empires - outlined above.
The first game had the main campaign and two DLC campaigns (Wood Elves and Beastmen).
Personally, I'd avoid using the DLC until you've learnt the ropes. The developers designed it for existing players really, and much of it introduces new game mechanics you simply don't need to be worrying about when starting out. For a first play through, I'd go with Thorgrim Grudgebearer (Dwarfs) or Grimgor Ironfist (Greenskins) in the Mortal Empires campaign, as both races are relatively simple. Or for Vortex (much shorter campaign than ME) Tyrion, as High Elves are also relatively simple until later in the campaign.
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I'd definitely recommend buying the first instalment for the extra factions in Mortal Empires, I've been playing regularly since December and not really been tempted by any of the other expansions yet.
I didn't get on with it sadly. I got hoodwinked by all the nice screenshots not realising you are pretty much forced to zoom all the way out and play army ants to have any real chance. I'm glad I tried it though, I think I probably prefer strategy on a smaller scale/simpler like AOE. that said, I do enjoy 4x games like Stellaris/Endless Space.
I can't decide which I love more; Rattling Guns or Warpfire Throwers.
Only grumble I have with Skryre is that by the time I've added enough Weapons Teams, War Machines, and Artillery to the army, there's little room for melee infantry. It feels a bit un-Skaven-y to have a tiny army. I might play around with unit sizes, prices, recruitment times etc. to see if I can change that. In my head, I feel like they should be fielding large numbers of Slaves and then not worrying about the friendly fire cost; they're only there to slow the enemy down.
Only grumble I have with Skryre is that by the time I've added enough Weapons Teams, War Machines, and Artillery to the army, there's little room for melee infantry. It feels a bit un-Skaven-y to have a tiny army. I might play around with unit sizes, prices, recruitment times etc. to see if I can change that. In my head, I feel like they should be fielding large numbers of Slaves and then not worrying about the friendly fire cost; they're only there to slow the enemy down.
Build a second army full of slaves/clanrats and take them around the map together.
But then it would be more effective having two stacks of the big stuff
Haven't modded a TW game since Shogun II. Thinking I'll play around with unit sizes, cost, and strength. Maybe double the size of ratling gunners and warpfire throwers, make jazzails more powerful, give the machines higher defence, but up the cost and recruitment time of all of these units (thinking maybe 2.5x?). Then on the other side of things, up the unit size of Slaves/Clanrats and drop their stats a bit to compensate. Should allow much larger armies without making them too much more deadly. Only thing that concerns me about doing that is the army loss penalty hitting the shooty stuff just because a couple of thousand Slaves died. Will have to see if there's a way around this without adding the "Unbreakable" trait.