*Transfer Window 2014/15 Season Rumours/Signings *AKA Man U fans listing every player under the Sun

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JohnnyG said:
I'm not sure RVP has got that sort of money, he might have to stay at Man.U.
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Lol :D

One things for sure , if things stay the same he's definitely off somewhere. Initially fans won't be happy, then the Arsenal PR mob will write a cleverly worded statement to show that he's still an Arsenal man at heart, he'll score a couple of goals and everything will be forgotten. Arsene knows full well how fickle fans are.
 
I'd be very happy for RvP to go, though preferably not to Arsenal. I didn't want him in the first place and while he's still a great finisher (well, except last night) he just doesn't contribute enough.
 
Shamikebab said:
I'd be very happy for RvP to go, though preferably not to Arsenal. I didn't want him in the first place and while he's still a great finisher (well, except last night) he just doesn't contribute enough.
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+ the older he gets the fewer games he is likely to be up for, and injuries are only going to become even more likely the older he gets.

Personally Utd should get rid of him either way (thanks for the title last season and all that) build the next team around Rooney and Mata, DDG, Evans / Jones/ Smalling and a few youngsters coming through
 
robfosters said:
I think an RVP arsenal return now hinges on whether or not Moyes stays at Man U.

RVP doesn't want to play for him, simple as. His goals pretty much won the EPL for Utd last season and he is rewarded with the boss going back on his word (leaving), replacing him with a donkey and then watching as Rooney's salary goes though the roof.

Arsene has a major track record in bringing back old players. If Arsene believes this could win Arsenal the title, I would cheer him back on the field and wouldn't be whinging about the way he treated us. As far as I'm concerned, it was our fault in the first place.

Out of interest, if he's demanded a move, what do you reckon his fee would be? I say between 12 and 15m.
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Major track record? Major? Henry on loan and Flamini when everyone thought he was washed up?

How many players has Wenger sold over the years and how many have come back, how many on permanent contracts.... major track record?

Fact is if Arsenal STILL can't win the league this year, what reason does RVP have to come back to Arsenal. If we do win the title(not particularly likely but possible) then maybe, otherwise his better options are to go abroad. Valdes has won literally everything, he's the best keeper in the world, he's at the best club and yet he wants to go and win other things. RVP finally won the EPL at the first attempt with Utd after donkeys years of failing with Arsenal.

If they fail again I can't see him coming back at all, even if we do most players would be looking for a fresh challenge. Look for him to go maybe even to Barca, possibly Real, possibly Italy, Dortmund maybe.
 
Moses said:
Do you think he'd be worth that much, if he wanted out? Remember there's going to be a salary cap in the Premier League, next year.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/how-financial-fair-play-regulations-3179115

So, say Manyoo want to splurge £200m on new players in the summer, they will obviously earn an awful lot of money... meaning Manyoo will have to free up space in their salary allowance. As the article mentions, Vidic/Ferdinand/Rio leaving does help that, but why not add RVP to the list..? If they feel it's better to have his salary used for new signings, they could be keen to let him go for a reduced fee.
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It's a 4mil a year increase in salary IF your financial strength doesn't increase. IE you can spend 4mil more than the previous year if you make the same or less as the previous year however you can increase your wage spending by the same amount as your commercial income increase.

IE Utd have no problems, new shirt sponsor, new kit deal, new other random sponsorships that apparently get associated with the club but you never seem to notice. Considering Utd's commercial income will likely increase to the tune of 40-60mil in the next couple years, that means Utd can spend that same amount more on wages, which is what generally happens when commercial income increases anyway.

For a growing club the only wage cap is how much you can grow by. The only teams the financial cap will limit is those outside of Europe whose commercial growth is limited or non existent.
 
The article is completely wrong and fails to point out that you can raise wages by ANYTHING as long as commercial increases by the same amount. Utd are already predicted for wages to increase for 15-17mil THIS season before Rooney's new deal which given the length of time it will be active probably means around another 2mil added on top. The article doesn't explain the rules almost at all.

So 20-40k saved on Vidic to make way for Rooney... despite Utd having the ability to raise wages by 30-40mil minimum in the next couple years... no, completely bogus premise that was completely misrepresented in the article.

No commercial income increase, 4mil increase to current wages is allowed, meaning Stoke for instance are probably limited to a 4mil increase. If you increase commercial income, that income can be added to your wage bill without being outside of ffp.

For Utd with their current yearly growth there is effectively no wage cap. The 25man squad limit is a bigger limit on how many expensive wage players they have than FFP for Utd, City, Chelsea and Arsenal.
 
Moses said:
As the article mentions, Vidic/Ferdinand/Rio leaving does help that, but why not add RVP to the list..? If they feel it's better to have his salary used for new signings, they could be keen to let him go for a reduced fee.
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Reckon they will keep him another year, he can chip in with 10 goals next season. They need a new striker desperately though, wonder who they will bring in..
 
Yes, you said you didn't explain it so you linked to an explanation instead, but your link went as far as what you quoted. THe article manages to say Utd can raise wages by as much as they can get new sponsorship(which afaik isn't accurate, it's commercial which doesn't have to be sponsorship, but sponsorship is included under). We ALREADY KNOW that Utd's sponsorship has gone up massively, yet the article is asking "did they get rid of Vidic because Rooney is getting maybe 5mil more a year and the wage cap only allows a 4mil increase."

Their premise is stupid, they include the fact that 4mil is the base limit to wage increases and ask if they let Vidic go to enable a bigger contract for Rooney, when already announced deals already let us know that Utd can raise wages by maybe 40mil for next season.

Also in what way did what I wrote "copy what they said" by providing a better explanation, when their explanation is almost non existent and their conclusion suggests they don't understand what the rules mean?
 
robfosters said:
I think an RVP arsenal return now hinges on whether or not Moyes stays at Man U.

RVP doesn't want to play for him, simple as. His goals pretty much won the EPL for Utd last season and he is rewarded with the boss going back on his word (leaving), replacing him with a donkey and then watching as Rooney's salary goes though the roof.

Arsene has a major track record in bringing back old players. If Arsene believes this could win Arsenal the title, I would cheer him back on the field and wouldn't be whinging about the way he treated us. As far as I'm concerned, it was our fault in the first place.

Out of interest, if he's demanded a move, what do you reckon his fee would be? I say between 12 and 15m.
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LOL the only major track record that Wenger has and will always have is that he sells our best players in recent yrs and coupled with the fact that he hasnt won a trophy for god knows how many yrs now:p. Wouldnt surprise me if he ends up selling Ozil in the next yr or so lol.

The only player he has brought back into Arsenal from the past us Flamini and even then he wasnt sure if he was going to sign him to a new contract. Henry was only given to us on a loan in the past from his MLS side.

As for RVP?? im in 2 minds about having him back...sure he could score for fun for us but i think it would take a lot for the fans to forgive him for leaving us to go to Utd. But then we all know how fickle fans can be..personally i cant see him wanting to come back to us and i cant see Wenger wanting him back as hes now 30 so wont be offered a long contract and most importantly he wont get paid anywhere close to what he is on at Utd. Theres a reason why a lot of Arsenal fans affectionately know him as Van Pursestrings lol.
 
If we decide to let RvP go (pretty unlikely), we wouldn't sell him back to Arsenal. He'd go elsewhere.

We'd look an even bigger joke than we do at the moment if we did that. Moyes is more likely go first.
 
Robbo said:
If we decide to let RvP go (pretty unlikely), we wouldn't sell him back to Arsenal. He'd go elsewhere.

We'd look an even bigger joke than we do at the moment if we did that. Moyes is more likely go first.
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Well that all depends on RVP, if he demands he wants to go to Arsenal and we stump up the cash...but its not likely to happen. Utd arent as stupid as Wenger and Arsenal but then if anyone is to blame for RVP leaving us in the first place, its Wenger and Arsenal for allowing him to run his contract down and allowing him to dictate where he wanted to go.

On another note, Guillem Balague has tweeted that Morata of Real Madrid has asked to go to Arsenal, so just remains for Arsenal and Real to agree a fee. After the hilarity of Higuain and the possibility of him joining us last summer, ill take this with a massive pinch of salt. Real have probably put the rumour out there to maximise as much transfer fee as they can possibly get for him.

Draxler meanwhile isnt likely to come to Arsenal anytime soon, as Bayern have told his agent that any other team making an offer for him...they will match or increase it. Fact is £37mill for a 20 yr old is pretty steep even though hes supposedly the next big thing in world football and as much as id love to see Draxler at Arsenal, i cant see Wenger splashing that much cash out...i think the Ozil transfer was a one off to appease the fans...knowing our luck Wenger will stick with Giroud for next season as well.
 
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Yas786 said:
LOL the only major track record that Wenger has and will always have is that he sells our best players in recent yrs and coupled with the fact that he hasnt won a trophy for god knows how many yrs now:p. Wouldnt surprise me if he ends up selling Ozil in the next yr or so lol.

The only player he has brought back into Arsenal from the past us Flamini and even then he wasnt sure if he was going to sign him to a new contract. Henry was only given to us on a loan in the past from his MLS side.

As for RVP?? im in 2 minds about having him back...sure he could score for fun for us but i think it would take a lot for the fans to forgive him for leaving us to go to Utd. But then we all know how fickle fans can be..personally i cant see him wanting to come back to us and i cant see Wenger wanting him back as hes now 30 so wont be offered a long contract and most importantly he wont get paid anywhere close to what he is on at Utd. Theres a reason why a lot of Arsenal fans affectionately know him as Van Pursestrings lol.
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I dont see how Arsenal fans can really hate him, he carried u for 2 seasons with amazing goals. He was clearly better than the rest of the team he left to win trophies which he did. Arsenal were finishing 3rd/4th every season with RvP there.

Wenger refusing to sign top players to push the team on how can u expect a player on the wrong side of 20 with only a few years left at the top to settle for a team happy to finish 4th most seasons?

He really is what Arsenal are missing right now, Higuain is the one that got away he has been pretty good at Napoli but Wenger was chasing Suarez at the time.
 
Things are starting to get interesting at UTD.

Nani is gone.

Inter beat Juventus to Nani

Manchester United have agreed to loan Nani to Inter next season. The Portuguese winger is expected to move to San Siro along with Nemanja Vidic who has already revealed he will leave Old Trafford in the summer.

Source: Tuttosport
Sunday, 2 March 2014 07:13
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Moyes out? Sunday People but its still a possibility.

Van Gaal keen on Man Utd

Louis van Gaal is keen to take charge of Manchester United if David Moyes is sacked.

Source: Sunday People
Saturday, 1 March 2014 23:40
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KroosON?

Felix Kroos, the brother of Bayern Munich midfielder Toni Kroos, has hinted that the Germany international could be interested in a summer move to Manchester United.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...-at-manchester-united-move-for-bayern-munich-
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I generally think people over estimate Kroos. It shouldn't be forgotten that he plays in quite easily the best team in the world, he doesn't strike me as better than anyone in that team. He just has a habit of scoring some crackers in big CL games so a lot of guys from other countries often see him at his best.

Not really a problem having a big game player, but will he, and can he be as effective without that same team around him.

He's had a couple of stand out seasons but, 1 goal in 44 shots in the league and 1 goal in 22 shots in the CL this year don't strike me as stats that suggest buying at insane price and giving insane wages to. When I see him play I haven't seen anything to be hugely impressed by. He has a good pass completion rate to a large degree because unlike Robben/Ribery, he doesn't really drive into the box and try the pass into a busy box. He's a bit like Mata/Ozil in that he hangs on the edge of the defence and takes advantage of the brilliant movement of team mates who make the runs/space/movement to make the gaps for passing, but the majority of his(and their) passing is sideways infront of that defence.

Constantly shooting from range, 66 shots to to get 2 goals is very poor. He's had better seasons but his best is more like a 1 in 10 shot conversion ratio and this is the second year he's in a 1:33+ .

For me, one of the most over rated players in europe at the moment. He also once again seems to be someone who prefers to and scores most of his goals when playing more like the no.10 role ACM. Just how many people do Utd want for the one position, at extreme cost and wages? Buying the right player for the team rather than a player because he's a name will do more for Utd.

Flamini isn't a big name in football, nor expensive, nor hard to get, but he was the right player for Arsenal and has made a much bigger impact than Ozil has.
 
Seems like Morata of Real has supposedly agreed terms with Arsenal for a move this summer. From what i have been reading, it just remains for Arsenal and Real to agree a fee.

Similar situation to last summer when all the hype was about Higuain coming to Arsenal but only to find out there was no chance of that happening.

Dont know much about this Morata guy other than he is young and hasnt played much, does he score many goals?? i suppose not as he cant get any game time lol. 5 goals in 39 appearances doesnt seem to bode well :/. £15mill isnt too high a price if that is what is agreed upon but honestly i would just like it for once if Wenger went out and bought a truly world class striker, someone who can score goals and lots of them.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...er-to-bid-for-Real-Madrids-Alvaro-Morata.html
 
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