*Transfer Window 2014/15 Season Rumours/Signings *AKA Man U fans listing every player under the Sun

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daily mail are reporting that LvG has sat down with 5 players today and tild them they are not in his plans; Nani, Anderson, Chicharito, Fellaini and Rafael ( and given his injury record Raf isnt that hard to believe esp if LvG thinks Young can cover the rwb spot with Valencia)

Otherwise its the beginning of the clearout as expected, and some reports Chicharito may be on his way to Juve as a separate deal but " in good faith for Vidal but who knows
 
I still don't see United buying Cavani - or Di Maria for that matter.

Vidal will be signed, for sure. And a world-class centre back (either Hummels or Benatia probably). I don't see the need for either Di Maria or Cavani though - United have plenty of strength and options up-front, and neither of those players will want to be rotational option.
 
daily mail are reporting that LvG has sat down with 5 players today and tild them they are not in his plans; Nani, Anderson, Chicharito, Fellaini and Rafael ( and given his injury record Raf isnt that hard to believe esp if LvG thinks Young can cover the rwb spot with Valencia)

I know I shouldn't but I feel a bit sorry for Felliani. This could crush him as a player. He might go from the 6 good games he had at Everton per season to 3 from now on ;)

I do wonder if Martinez would have sold him anyway even if Moyes didn't do us the biggest favour. I do think LVG would get much more out of him this year but he's never a top 4 player anyway. Getting 12m+ would be a good result for united I think. I can't see much future for young, they probably just want him as back up for another year then boot him out next year.
 
I know I shouldn't but I feel a bit sorry for Felliani. This could crush him as a player. He might go from the 6 good games he had at Everton per season to 3 from now on ;)

I do wonder if Martinez would have sold him anyway even if Moyes didn't do us the biggest favour. I do think LVG would get much more out of him this year but he's never a top 4 player anyway. Getting 12m+ would be a good result for united I think. I can't see much future for young, they probably just want him as back up for another year then boot him out next year.

Given the wages situation, 12m would be a small miracle (especially as in all liklihood Utd will have to literally give away Anderson)


Im not sure where Utd will be getting a world class centre-half from at this point. Hummels is totally not viable (even if he was before) now he has been given the captaincy. Benatia is just rumours at this point (and nothing to back them up that Utd are even looking at him), and all the others that Utd have been looking at have already been sold / or about to (in regards to Mangala who is yet to be confirmed, but not sure LvG rates him just yet)

Im not convinced with Di Maria as RWB, he has a lot of energy and like any forward he can be good to fill holes but Im not 100% sure he is defensive enough even for rwb position. IF LvG wants to be totally adaptable and have a squad for 4-4-2 then Di Maria fits in perfectly (but Mata much less so with Rooney and RvP upfront) - but for me I think while adaptability is always needed for this season for the most part 3-5-2 will be the way to go for majority of games. Cavani is just a straight no for the money that will be required.
 
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I also feel a little sorry for Fellaini...

- It's not his fault that Man U overpaid for him.
- It's not his fault that he was their only major signing of the summer.
- It's not his fault that Moyes played him out of position (he's no defensive midfielder...).

Despite all the above he still under-performed, but he doesn't deserve to be the running joke that he's sometimes made out to be. Through no fault of his own he was placed in an unfamiliar position with an insane amount of pressure and expectation on him.

I hope he's sold this window, and has a successful spell elsewhere. I doubt he'll go for much more than £12m though, unless United are paying a portion of his wages.
 
I still don't see United buying Cavani - or Di Maria for that matter.

Vidal will be signed, for sure. And a world-class centre back (either Hummels or Benatia probably). I don't see the need for either Di Maria or Cavani though - United have plenty of strength and options up-front, and neither of those players will want to be rotational option.

What makes you so sure about Vidal? It makes sense but that doesn't mean it'll happen. :(

Strides will have to be made this week, if it's going to happen.
 
What makes you so sure about Vidal? It makes sense but that doesn't mean it'll happen. :(

Strides will have to be made this week, if it's going to happen.

Just the general weight of speculation, and lack of denial from the club or player recently. It's generally fairly clear when these big transfer rumours transition from "speculation based on circumstance" to "clearly a possibility". For me, that point was passed earlier this week.

Besides, Man Utd are now 1/10 on to be Vidal's destination after the summer transfer window.
 
I still don't see United buying Cavani - or Di Maria for that matter.

Vidal will be signed, for sure. And a world-class centre back (either Hummels or Benatia probably). I don't see the need for either Di Maria or Cavani though - United have plenty of strength and options up-front, and neither of those players will want to be rotational option.

You forget Curdado as well is supposedly being looked at.
 
You forget Curdado as well is supposedly being looked at.

I haven't seen as much of Cuadrado, so I don't know how strong he is defensively. If he's solid, and can be relied on as a well-rounded wing-back as well as in a more traditional winger role, then I guess it's possible. If it's true that Rafael is going then there will need to be some kind of replacement on the right.

I don't think Di Maria is that player though. For all his undeniable qualities I don't think he'd be so good as a wing back. As for Cavani - the last thing United need is to spend £50m on another striker. They have more than enough options up-front with Rooney and Van Persie.
 
I haven't seen as much of Cuadrado, so I don't know how strong he is defensively. If he's solid, and can be relied on as a well-rounded wing-back as well as in a more traditional winger role, then I guess it's possible. If it's true that Rafael is going then there will need to be some kind of replacement on the right.

I don't think Di Maria is that player though. For all his undeniable qualities I don't think he'd be so good as a wing back. As for Cavani - the last thing United need is to spend £50m on another striker. They have more than enough options up-front with Rooney and Van Persie.

Cuadrado is quite good defensively apparently in terms of work rate at least.
 
Cuadrado is quite good defensively apparently in terms of work rate at least.

Yeah, just been reading a few articles on him (e.g. this), and it seems he's played in the wing-back position fairly successfully - though he's still fairly attack minded in comparison to others. I suppose he'd be a good option with a good enough defence behind him.

Like I said, not seen much of him myself, so I don't have much of a first-hand perspective. Seems a better fit than Di Maria though. Would give Van Gaal the options for a 3-5-2, 4-4-2 or 4-3-3, whereas Di Maria would be more of a player for a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 type formation.
 
I do worry a 3-5-2 will allow teams with good wingers/full backs to double up on ours though. Plus it does ask a lot of the wide players in terms of being able to support both defence and attack.
 
I do worry a 3-5-2 will allow teams with good wingers/full backs to double up on ours though. Plus it does ask a lot of the wide players in terms of being able to support both defence and attack.

I really don't understand why people don't seem to get this, the point of 3-5-2 is to have an extra CB to free up the fullback. When two people attack down the wing, one CB and the wing back are there, leaving two CB's free. That is the point of the system. Rather than a 4-4-2 where you can get caught with both fullbacks up the field, you have 2 cb's in theory. 3-5-2 leaves you with three defenders at the back in almost every situation and with 5 when the fullbacks are back.

The entire point of the system is it is less reliant on the fullback and less vulnerable to being caught with the fullback up the field.
 
^^ That's the advantage of the system certainly, but it's also its inherent weakness. It needs a high degree of adaptability - especially on the part of the wing-backs and central midfield. The team has to dynamically adapt to the situation on the field in order to adjust their positioning and close gaps. If this isn't done well enough then it can lead to fullbacks being out of position and gaps for an attack on the break.

If the team is adaptable enough, and of high enough quality where it counts (CM and WB), then it can be a great system IMO. If not, then it's a disaster waiting to happen. Van Gaal has shown with the Dutch squad, and with United's pre-season games, that he's quite adept at marshalling his players to play with this formation. I don't see why it can't work well for United.

... as with every formation, it's a balance.
 
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