*Transfer Window 2014/15 Season Rumours/Signings *AKA Man U fans listing every player under the Sun
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It's just from looking at the lineup, your defence looks very mid table. Don't rate any of them. Least some of your midfield has some decent players.
You would hope so, it was 10 years ago..
He played central midfield last season (sort of box to box) and did well, but he's a winger.
Really? In central midfield we have Herrera who is good and the rest are poor.
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United's defence is undoubtedly poor, but it isn't helped by the stagnant midfield in front of them. No one in the midfield is particularly mobile meaning they're often easily bypassed by the opponent. It also slows things down going forward and leaves huge gaps between midfield and attack.
A CB is a must, but I'd love for them to sort the centre of midfield out first.
A CB is a must, but I'd love for them to sort the centre of midfield out first.
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Not top priority but we need to have a back 4, I'm ok with the players we have as long as they stay fit. It's the mf and lack of goals the worrying bit.
Rafa Jones Evans Shaw would be fine with Blackett, Smalling and Evans as cover.
A fast LW(Di Maria) and two mf's(Vidal and somebody) is what we need, top priority imo.
Absolutely furious with Glazers / Woodward, its the same old story season after season "We have lots of money, we just have to decide who we want and we will get them" (or words to that effect)
Shut up and put up!!
Someone behind the scenes is seriously ******* up deal after deal. Entering the market too late, and/or not bidding enough straight away to get the players required.
Year after year its budget options (like Rojo, who might be good for backup but as we still need 1st choice players is a **** take), or last minute.com out of desperation , or a combination of both.
Its not helped by changing manager twice in two years but as with Shaw and Herrera we could have had more lined up ready to go (a CM and a centre half wouldnt affect what current squad members were surplus)
And now a lot of options have alreayd moved on and Utd are fighting against even better squad's than last season while Utd stand still (and as Saturday proved, LvG cant make silk out of a sow)
Shut up and put up!!
Someone behind the scenes is seriously ******* up deal after deal. Entering the market too late, and/or not bidding enough straight away to get the players required.
Year after year its budget options (like Rojo, who might be good for backup but as we still need 1st choice players is a **** take), or last minute.com out of desperation , or a combination of both.
Its not helped by changing manager twice in two years but as with Shaw and Herrera we could have had more lined up ready to go (a CM and a centre half wouldnt affect what current squad members were surplus)
And now a lot of options have alreayd moved on and Utd are fighting against even better squad's than last season while Utd stand still (and as Saturday proved, LvG cant make silk out of a sow)
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What's interesting is that when Moyes lost, it was Moyes losing. Now its lvg it's the players losing not tje coach.
The question is, when you only have 3 fit defenders, why do you start with a formation with 5 defenders? It didn't suit anyone, the players, the club and at the end of the first half we were 1-0 with the most defensive formation in the premiership fielding a side that cost 6 or 7 times that of the Swansea side.
Yet we lost, at home.
The question is, when you only have 3 fit defenders, why do you start with a formation with 5 defenders? It didn't suit anyone, the players, the club and at the end of the first half we were 1-0 with the most defensive formation in the premiership fielding a side that cost 6 or 7 times that of the Swansea side.
Yet we lost, at home.
Only one game so far - give it time
I agree that the United transfer situation is becoming farcical. It's all well and good LvG saying that it only takes 24hrs to sign a player. But even if that's true (which I doubt), by leaving things until the second half of August, most top-class players that were looking to leave have already done so. Clubs are also more reluctant to let players leave, as there is little time to find replacements - and since domestic leagues are starting their seasons already, even if a replacement can be found it'll take time to integrate them into the squad. At best you need to over-pay on transfer fees from now onwards. At worst, players simply aren't available any more.
I've been saying for months that I was sure United would buy three more world class players this window. Looks like I was wrong - I can't see it happening now. Maybe one top player will arrive (Di Maria? Vidal? Cuadrado? Benatia?) but I can't see much more than that. United seriously need defensive reinforcements, but I can't see where they'll come from.
Ideally you want all major new signings sorted in July, so they can be integrated into the squad in pre-season and the team can hit the ground running. Like Chelsea - identified three major targets, with all deals sorted before the end of the world cup. I get the feeling that Woodward just doesn't have the chops or the contacts to succeed in his position
People are actually complaining that Man Utd haven't spent money...they've spent 134 Million net in two and a half transfers windows.
134 Million.....
The owners have given money, its been spent poorly but the money has still been made available. This window alone United have spent around 50mil net.
134 Million.....
The owners have given money, its been spent poorly but the money has still been made available. This window alone United have spent around 50mil net.
I was saying all last season that players attitude stunk in a lot of matches.
That wasnt the issue on Saturday however, Utd just were not good enough (even though they were trying).
And how much have Chelsea SPENT in this window ....or last three for that matter, or City for that matter....Even the perennial budget concious Arsenal have spent over £80m in the last three windows (Ozil and Sanchez accountiing for majority) and they didnt need as much work as Utd's first team.
Mata, Herrera and Shaw are good players (especially when the latter is fit to play), £50m is nothing these days especially given its on two players. Over the last 6 years Utd have spent the least of the top 5 mainly because "there is no value in the transfer market" according to SAF in the last few years of his "reign"
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We've bought a lof of Chris Smalling and Wilfred zaha and not enough edin hazard or oscars. Simples.
Mata was the ultimate luxury player we did not need, and that came after rvp.
Mata was the ultimate luxury player we did not need, and that came after rvp.
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Chelsea have got very lucky tbh with the Luiz sale.
Yeah my point was he was good last year in the central role and a bit meh in other seasons as a winger. So if his best position in recent years has been in ACM then buying him as a winger might not be the best 50m you have ever spent? I really don't see him as worth anything like 50m but kudos to Madrid, that's impressive money to offload a player they no longer want.
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Its funny to see people saying that we are blaming the players vs Moyes with LvG first loss which is absolute bull. We knew we needed players last season and didn't get them and we are in the same boat this season. Moyes played cack football and even with top top players wouldn't have won much with his tactics. LvG may have a **** side to work with but at least we have seen glimmers of good football already from the players. Most of them look twice the players they did last season.
We need to buy some top players, that much is obvious but we lost the first game of the season 2-1 and we could have won that game. We were missing a good number of first team players and its a new formation.
The other top sides didn't exactly blow away their opposition and they all have much stronger squads, a settled manager and formation and much more of a much better 1st XI to choose from. Reading much into the first game is ridiculous.
We need to buy some top players, that much is obvious but we lost the first game of the season 2-1 and we could have won that game. We were missing a good number of first team players and its a new formation.
The other top sides didn't exactly blow away their opposition and they all have much stronger squads, a settled manager and formation and much more of a much better 1st XI to choose from. Reading much into the first game is ridiculous.
True - it was an unexpected boon. But, even if Chelsea had got market value for Luiz (say £25-30m) they would still have only spent a net ~£10m this window, and be at a small profit for 2014 overall.
I've been following Chelsea for a long time, and this period of transfer business (summer 2013 onwards) has been easily the best. No real "flops" have been bought (so far!), and the squad has been improved in every window despite spending relatively little.
Obviously this isn't something that can be repeated every year, but it's a sharp contrast to United.
Chelsea have been shrewd in the transfer market bar Torres really. They seem to follow a very simple policy as well. If a top player becomes available for a reasonable price, buy them. If a very promising young player becomes available, buy him.
Fabregas and Costa were both bought for less than their true values. Oscar was a good deal, Courtois was a good deal and they blooded him at a top side for 3 years. You seem to send a lot of players out on loan as well and quite a few of them either come good or are at least sold for a healthy profit.
Hazard came on the market and you paid what looked like a hefty price for him but he is worth nearly double that now.
United had tried to buy young english talent with little success in recent times and we have overpaid for what we have bought and not bought the quality we need for seasons now. Barring the ridiculous fees for Fellaini we have spent little over the past 4-5 years. Mata and RvP were good buys, Herrera and Shaw should be good buys but bar that we have had a god awful transfer policy.
There was no real real behind getting Kagawa as we never really played him where he needed to be and we had a team that couldn't pass or move effectively around him. Its basically been a shamble interspersed with random good signings for years now.
Fabregas and Costa were both bought for less than their true values. Oscar was a good deal, Courtois was a good deal and they blooded him at a top side for 3 years. You seem to send a lot of players out on loan as well and quite a few of them either come good or are at least sold for a healthy profit.
Hazard came on the market and you paid what looked like a hefty price for him but he is worth nearly double that now.
United had tried to buy young english talent with little success in recent times and we have overpaid for what we have bought and not bought the quality we need for seasons now. Barring the ridiculous fees for Fellaini we have spent little over the past 4-5 years. Mata and RvP were good buys, Herrera and Shaw should be good buys but bar that we have had a god awful transfer policy.
There was no real real behind getting Kagawa as we never really played him where he needed to be and we had a team that couldn't pass or move effectively around him. Its basically been a shamble interspersed with random good signings for years now.
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