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Soldato
Wouldn't work. RVP and Rooney aren't wide players and Mata can't play central mid in a 433 really without a ball winner / game reader.
It could work something 352 ish as:
Di Maria -- Herrera
----- Rooney -----
RVP ------ Falcao
That was suggested when Liverpool were in for him and according to Balague, Falcao's agent is insisting this is a permanent deal so maybe thats the case here.
Soldato
LVG has a new tactic in mind..
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Rooney is awful deeper(in terms of centrally as a playmaker), he has no intelligence, no guile, he tried throughballs against Burnley and like in every other game he's ever played, screwed every single one up badly.
I'd drop Rooney and play Falcao and RVP. As for RVP not being a wide player, he played wide right(occasionally left) for Arsenal a LOT before being pushed up front. He's capable of both, he'd likely need a little time getting his game going deeper but he has the passing and vision that Rooney lacks completely. He's also good at dribbling the ball and had the ability to drive in from the corner flag into the box, beat a player, turn then and score from absurd angles, he's got a great cross as well. He's more than capable of playing as a second striker behind Falcao, or as the striker just ahead of Falcao.
To be honest with Falcao they can just play long ball and ignore that rubbish midfield, someone with genuine quality in the air, strength. They should play a 5-0-5 formation
Rooney has, for the billionth time, played great wide left. Berbatov upfront with Rooney and Ronaldo on the flanks worked brilliantly. A slower guy upfront and two pacey strong runners on either flank worked superbly for the team that year. The only reason Rooney "can't" play wide now is he never actually stays wide like for England. He spent about 3 minutes playing like a left winger/wide left striker in the world cup, he scored one and created one in those few minutes, the rest of the time he was crap... that time he was trying to play no.10... he's utterly incapable of that style of play.
Power, pace, running with the ball and a wicked cross, that is all of Rooney's strengths blended together in a single role.
Holding the ball, picking the right passl, vision, guile, creativity, flare... the things you want in a no.10... he has none of them, and so shouldn't be surprising that when he tries to play like that he looks embarrassingly poor.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being pacey and powerful, why do people not recognise what Rooney is good at and ignore what he's bad at?
I'd drop Rooney and play Falcao and RVP. As for RVP not being a wide player, he played wide right(occasionally left) for Arsenal a LOT before being pushed up front. He's capable of both, he'd likely need a little time getting his game going deeper but he has the passing and vision that Rooney lacks completely. He's also good at dribbling the ball and had the ability to drive in from the corner flag into the box, beat a player, turn then and score from absurd angles, he's got a great cross as well. He's more than capable of playing as a second striker behind Falcao, or as the striker just ahead of Falcao.
To be honest with Falcao they can just play long ball and ignore that rubbish midfield, someone with genuine quality in the air, strength. They should play a 5-0-5 formation
Rooney has, for the billionth time, played great wide left. Berbatov upfront with Rooney and Ronaldo on the flanks worked brilliantly. A slower guy upfront and two pacey strong runners on either flank worked superbly for the team that year. The only reason Rooney "can't" play wide now is he never actually stays wide like for England. He spent about 3 minutes playing like a left winger/wide left striker in the world cup, he scored one and created one in those few minutes, the rest of the time he was crap... that time he was trying to play no.10... he's utterly incapable of that style of play.
Power, pace, running with the ball and a wicked cross, that is all of Rooney's strengths blended together in a single role.
Holding the ball, picking the right passl, vision, guile, creativity, flare... the things you want in a no.10... he has none of them, and so shouldn't be surprising that when he tries to play like that he looks embarrassingly poor.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being pacey and powerful, why do people not recognise what Rooney is good at and ignore what he's bad at?
Caporegime
Mine is? We have people claiming that Evans is good at football. Or that di maria would last more than 65 minutes.
or that the rvp signing worked out really well and you think im insane?
Soldato
Yes DM we're aware that RVP and Rooney have played wide previously but that doesn't mean that the side would be balanced having them there or it would work. Square pegs in round holes and all that.
lol @ Rooney and pace
lol @ Rooney and pace
Caporegime
Yes we think you're insane
Caporegime
Thats rather harsh.
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Also, we appear to be selling Miquel, not a quality CB by any stretch but cover none the less. We had CB injuries every year for like a decade with no cover..... because Kos/Mert go uninjured(seriously that is) for one season we sell Verm and Miquel with only chambers as cover. I guess Debuchy is strong and Wenger sees him has potential cover like Sagna being forced to play CB, however Sagna was woeful in that role and Debuchy has already done multiple things that could have gotten him a red card... aside from the red card he already got.
It's really light at the back, if we don't sign a capable CB Wenger is asking for trouble again. If Mert, Kos or Chambers get a longer term injury we have no cover at all now, we'd be overplaying the remaining two CB's risking more injuries.
Will Wenger ever learn?
It's really light at the back, if we don't sign a capable CB Wenger is asking for trouble again. If Mert, Kos or Chambers get a longer term injury we have no cover at all now, we'd be overplaying the remaining two CB's risking more injuries.
Will Wenger ever learn?
Caporegime
This is quite an interesting lineup.
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Admittedly we are missing the defensive clout we need but it would be interesting going forwards. The only issue is that there are not 5 at the back which is obviously madness.
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Admittedly we are missing the defensive clout we need but it would be interesting going forwards. The only issue is that there are not 5 at the back which is obviously madness.
Soldato
Falcao can only be a good thing being a paid loan deal, as just gives options,
yes they still need a cb and cdm,
looks like he is going for the you score three we score 4 formation
yes they still need a cb and cdm,
looks like he is going for the you score three we score 4 formation
A hell of a lot of money for a loan though if the reports of £10m+ are true!
Nice bit of business by Monaco if they can keep loaning him out for this kind of money - they will have recouped their initial outlay in a few years and then still be able to sell him!!
It's a lot less risky than purchasing him for ~£60m though that's for sure, given that he's 28 already and may possibly have an injury problem. If he can do a job for one season and steady the ship it will have been a good piece of business for United.
This is quite an interesting lineup.
Admittedly we are missing the defensive clout we need but it would be interesting going forwards. The only issue is that there are not 5 at the back which is obviously madness.
Any half decent attack would cut through that....
Caporegime
Aren't you the guy who tried to call me out over di maria on Saturday and 10 mins later he got subbed off after crimping in a heap. He spent more time sat down during that 90 mins than most of our bench.
Maybe you should think before you try to cut your nose off to spite your face?
Caporegime
Thats the team based on who we have, not who we might have. I agree, without Strootman / Vidal Herrera is the natural choice in that role. He is quite a good tackler as well. Much better than Fletcher and Carrick.
It would but we wouldn't be using this formation to have a solid defence.
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