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Not a chance he's worth 60, considering vidal and fab could be bought for less!


Age, Fab/Vidal are known quantities, Pogba is still improving and is excellent already, no certainty he'd be better, but there is a chance he could be better than both. You pay more for potential, older players rarely have any untapped potential so you pay their "real" value.
 
I don't think I'd want him back for the same reason I wouldn't like to see Suarez in a United shirt.

Great player, utterly brilliant, but a complete **** to go with it. £60m? No thanks.
 
I don't think I'd want him back for the same reason I wouldn't like to see Suarez in a United shirt.

Great player, utterly brilliant, but a complete **** to go with it. £60m? No thanks.

Pogba is a complete ****, from where, from who?

A club loses a potentially world class midfielder basically due to mismanagement of the situation. Do you expect them to suggest they made the biggest mistake of the past decade at the club(at the time they hadn't employed Moyes yet :p ), or to suggest he's a bit difficult to work with and were maybe justified. Generally speaking when a huge talent leaves on a free the club who loses out will try and make it seem less bad.

Has Pogba bitten anyone on the pitch, dives constantly or tries to injure other players, been done for racism?

It's a little ridiculous to compare Suarez who everyone has seen commit nasty acts on the field repeatedly to a player who is rumoured to maybe be a bit arrogant and demanding(neither bad things in a top player).
 
Although I'd have to admit I'm curious as to whether in the same position you'd have played Pogba irrespective of anything else? If he really was demanding playing time then effectively allowing him to play on his terms would mean that he was more powerful than the manager.

The thing is Fergie let it get to that stage. Perhaps if he'd given him a shot earlier rather than playing whoever he could find in midfield we might not have had an unhappy, promising player leaving for free. It's all if's and maybe's but in the end Fergie lost a bright talent for nothing.
 
The thing is Fergie let it get to that stage. Perhaps if he'd given him a shot earlier rather than playing whoever he could find in midfield we might not have had an unhappy, promising player leaving for free. It's all if's and maybe's but in the end Fergie lost a bright talent for nothing.

Or maybe Pogba was already demanding too much?

effectively Paul Scholes un-retiring took up Pogba's squad place (or liklihood of playing anyway) I think that was Jan'12 when he came back wasnt it, and Pogba left in July '12?

Hindsight is always a 100%, there are enough other youngsters who have been released in the same kind of time frame that didnt look that different in the EPL for us and have gone on to do ***** all
 
I'm not sure how you can tell, he never made a single start for us. Hell that season Macheda and Fryers got more football.

The fact he's gone from never starting for us to playing 90 odd matches for the best team in Italy shows he was clearly ready for first team football, especially considering the near terminal status of our central midfield.
 
Or maybe Pogba was already demanding too much?

effectively Paul Scholes un-retiring took up Pogba's squad place (or liklihood of playing anyway) I think that was Jan'12 when he came back wasnt it, and Pogba left in July '12?

Hindsight is always a 100%, there are enough other youngsters who have been released in the same kind of time frame that didnt look that different in the EPL for us and have gone on to do ***** all

But most of them were given a chance.

Take Gibson, went on loan and had 15 starts at Wolves, came back to Utd and got 9 starts, 5 subs appearances first season, 12 starts 11 subs the next season, 14 starts 7 sub the next season, then finally started 2 games then sold to Everton(or loaned initially?) in Jan.

Utd have given many crap players a stupid amount of chances before getting shot, so even if Pogba looked "meh", he really should also have been given those chances like any other player they test in the first team. I would struggle to believe that considering within a month at Juve he was playing consistent games and within 4-5 months he became a solid first team starter... that he really could have looked anything other than rather special the previous season with Utd. But again, even if pretty average or even poor, Utd have given such players WAY more chances than they gave Pogba. Ultimately they shouldn't have let his contract get so short, and had they given him more games he'd likely be a massive influence on that team in central mid.


I personally think Utd/Fergie were the arrogant ones, I think they were trying to get him to sign a relatively low contract offer as a bit part player rather than play him for 10 games, show how good he was and then his agent/himself could negotiate a far better contract. I think that because not much else makes sense. They offered him a contract, they obviously wanted him to stay, they obviously thought he was showing a lot of promise. Remember that it wasn't JUST Utd he played for various French youth teams, moving up the levels and being highly rated all around.

Fergie said this

Ferguson confirmed that Pogba would feature with the senior team during the season, stating: "I mean if we hold Pogba back, what's going to happen? He's going to leave. You know, in a couple of years' time when his contract is going to finish. So we have to give him the opportunity to see how he can do in the first-team and he's got great ability".

So Fergie knew contract was short, knew he'd leave and knew he HAD to play him otherwise he'd just leave... and yet didn't give him the opportunity. Even before being officially part of the first team squad Fergie was talking about his ability and showing he didn't want him to leave.

It really is a baffling situation, if this was an unknown kid who turned brilliant out of nowhere then that is bad luck. but this was a kid rated across Europe, who Fergie singled out as good and stated he knew he'd have to give him game time to keep him... and then just didn't.

It comes back once again to, I simply can't believe he looked bad enough to let him walk when 5 months later he's pretty much first team. Regardless of if you think Italian football is good, first team at Juve is impressive. Also, Utd wanted to keep him. I really do lean towards the Utd wanting to commit him to a contract before effectively turning him into a "star". Effectively if he had a season like at Juve, starting slowly and ending up first team but with his contract up, a dozen clubs across europe would have offered him Hazard style wages to sign and it would have cost Utd a lot more.
 
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Pogba is a complete ****, from where, from who?

A club loses a potentially world class midfielder basically due to mismanagement of the situation. Do you expect them to suggest they made the biggest mistake of the past decade at the club(at the time they hadn't employed Moyes yet :p ), or to suggest he's a bit difficult to work with and were maybe justified. Generally speaking when a huge talent leaves on a free the club who loses out will try and make it seem less bad.

Has Pogba bitten anyone on the pitch, dives constantly or tries to injure other players, been done for racism?

It's a little ridiculous to compare Suarez who everyone has seen commit nasty acts on the field repeatedly to a player who is rumoured to maybe be a bit arrogant and demanding(neither bad things in a top player).

It doesn't really matter how far along the **** scale Pogba or Suarez are. What matters is that they rate on it at all.
 
Would another option be that Ferguson was trying to teach him a lesson? If Mr Pogba is as much of an egotist as has been suggested then maybe he was being shown that no man is bigger than the club (or more important than Ferguson if it comes to that)? Perhaps given a bit of humility he'd have received more game time. Then again maybe it wouldn't have mattered and the only way he'd ever get to play was to move or for the manager to leave.

Er I think after Rooney that isn't true :D, only when it suits are they not 'bigger than the team'
 
I really would, otherwise I wouldn't have typed it.

Did you get flustered at giggs or cantona playing for you?

Or maybe Scholes with his several attempts at hand of God, attempt at punching an opponent or his 'just can't tackle' horror tackles?
 
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It doesn't really matter how far along the **** scale Pogba or Suarez are. What matters is that they rate on it at all.

Firstly, everyone on earth is on that scale somewhere, so yes it really does matter where on the scale they are. Second, my point was how do you know that he's a ****. Suarez has done things infront of everyone, on camera that we KNOW happened. We know what he's like. Pogba is rumoured to maybe be a bit arrogant. Again that encompasses almost all top sports professionals, and doesn't make someone a ****.

What exactly is it you know Pogba has done that makes him a ****?
 
This shows how busy Fulham's summer is going to be.

X = Confirmed gone (excluding Hangeland who isn't on this list!)
? = Pretty much going/going

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Did you get flustered at giggs or cantona playing for you?

Or maybe Scholes with his several attempts at hand of God, attempt at punching an opponent or his 'just can't tackle' horror tackles?

Giggs post affair, yes I wasn't keen. I was willing to allow somewhat though given his services to the club beforehand, something that neither Pogba nor Suarez have.

Cantona much the same, although a lot of that was opposition players and fans goading him into a response. I certainly didn't think any less of Keane given that Haaland stood over him running his mouth off.

Scholes just can't tackle. Never has been able to tackle.

Ronaldo started to annoy me towards the end too.
 
So you'll ignore the rest of the Scholes things and Keanes various other attempts to injure people :D?

Also not sure if you're attempting to suggest cantona was in some way justified to do what he did?
 
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I see that Fulham team and think how did they get relegated?!

I don't see Sidwell either, although I think he already confirmed that he is leaving. Also I think quite a few players from the ones left (Mitroglu primarily) will leave.
 
So you'll ignore the rest of the Scholes things and Keanes various other attempts to injure people :D?

Can't say I'm aware of anything else Scholes really did. Did he actually do it or is this a Purdy "omg the ball brushed his hand he's a cheat"?

Also try not to confuse strong tackling (something Keane did a lot of) with attempting to injure your opponent.

Also not sure if you're attempting to suggest cantona was in some way justified to do what he did?

I would be a hypocrite if I called him up for reacting to others.

I was also prepared to give you the Giggs thing, maybe even Ronaldo. But to compare Cantona or Scholes to Pogba or Suarez is quite laughable.
 
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