Ubisoft deactivating keys it says were "fraudulently" obtained and resold

maybe all these games were key generated and ubisoft has found out which range of serials were generated. I buy from greenmangaming and I've never had anything removed. I don't buy from g2a because their site always looks so pirate.

How can you reverse engineer the algorithm if the validation is done server-side?:confused:
How can you reliably generate keys that already exist/are valid and also unregistered by generating them at random?
 
Just to confirm I had an ACU key deactivated over the holidays, it was from UGStore, they sent me a new one a few days later to replace it and that was also deactivated after 2 weeks.

I don't know the full story but regardless the fact that Ubisoft didn't even have the courtesy to inform me of this before removing it from my library has summed them up for me. They're a pathetic company.
 
Ubisoft just have no idea how to look after their customers, whether their claims are correct or not they should communicate the reasons with the users and not just delete things. The point is people purchased the games in good faith and should not be treated like criminals.

At the moment Ubisoft need to be trying to win back gamers support in view of the mess and misleading over the past couple of years.

It's a shame that they are behind The Division as that will probably end up being in the same situation :(
 
I don't need to see them. If Ubisoft says the keys were fraudulently obtained, I'll take their word for it. Notice how the key sellers often are very quick to make refunds, which indicates Ubisoft is correct.

Because Ubi's word over the last 18 months has been solid. Just about everything they have publicly come out with has been a complete fabrication of the truth.
 
Isn't this all just with the currency fluctuation at the moment with the Ruble? Didn't Steam recently do the same with region locking?

I'm guessing they've noticed a large number of keys for the Russian market being registered in Europe and decided they were losing out on the cash.
 
I regularly berate, belittle and otherwise mock EA for their complete disdain they show for gamers the world over. It is threads like this that remind me, no matter how **** EA are, they cannot hold a candle to the supernova of arse-****ery that is Ubisoft.
 
that's ridiculous, dont punish the customer that has bought the game, if they dont like their games being sold on key sites they should go after them and get them to remove all there ubisoft games
 
Luckily I bought my game retail from Tesco but losing my DLC is quite annoying!

Guy on eBay refunded me :) no way am I buying the DLC from Ubisoft. I found out hard to justify paying £7.50 for it.

I'll no doubt buy the next FarCry retail but that'll be it. Apart from that one game I'll continue to avoid Ubisoft and Uplay
 
I bought Unity for £11 from somewhere, If I log on and it's gone... I wouldn't care as they'd be doing my a favour. I've lost all faith in Ubisoft and it's 100% my last purchase from them.
 
What has another platform got to do with the PC?

Just for your pleasure here was a blog done by an Intel employee shortly after that muppet of a UBI CEO flung pointless numbers around...it's a good read if you fancy it.

https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2012/09/22/gaming-piracy-separating-fact-from-fiction

Just pointing out that piracy levels are extremely high on open platforms that are relatively trivial to obtain pirated software.. .android and PC are a quite good comparison here, next to the closed ecosystems of iOS/consoles.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...y_5_percent_of_Android_installs_were_paid.php

Not really relevant to this particular discussion, I just wondered why you thought 90%+ piracy was contentious...those are the kind of numbers you expect on PC/android.
 
I bought Unity for £11 from somewhere, If I log on and it's gone... I wouldn't care as they'd be doing my a favour. I've lost all faith in Ubisoft and it's 100% my last purchase from them.

Ubi must be selling it dirt cheap in Russia... ie, less than £11!
 
Lets get something out the way early on... Ubisoft are destroying the industry, with shoddy games, shoddy business practices, and they're frequently complaining about things which they blame the gamer for, yet ignore that they're they a significant reason for the gamers actions.


That said, theres a lot of people frothing at the mouth and getting their knickers in a twist because its fun and easy to hate on Ubisoft.

They're not revoking keys because they've realised they've come from someone selling them at £20 and they want you to buy them at £50 direct or £40 from an approved selling. For starters, how the F are ubisoft supposed to know how much you paid for a game?? They cant look at a key and say oooh, that was Oleg in Minsk, how dare he sell a go to a store and buy game for £10 and then sell the key to someone for £20.

Best case scenario is Ubisoft know who they sent that key to, so Games-R-US.ru bought that key, someone in the UK/US etc activated it, but its not illegal.


Whats most likely happening is that people are buying copies of the game, with stolen CC details, or phished data, and then selling them as if they're legitimate keys.
The seller lists them on a key selling site, which... low and behold, is exactly what G2A and Kinguin are, and unsuspecting customers buy them, believing they're legit.
Eventually, its discovered the keys were acquired illegally, the real key owners then report the theft/fraud, and Ubisoft are shutting them down, because those keys, however they've been obtained, knowingly or not, were part of an illegal chain.

You wont get Ubisoft saying 'oh well, let em have it for free' cos someone has originally paid for those keys and got nothing because someone else intercepted them and sold them.


Also, the quote bringing pewdiepie into this mess is an absolute joke! Its more moronic nonsense.
PewDiePie isnt the face of G2A, just like JackFrags and a ton of others arent. They're simply affiliates, they spam their content with codes, viewers save a little on the purchases, and they make a little $$ in exchange.
They're not the ones selling anyone a game, Jack doesnt have a storefront, he doesnt sell you Far Cry 4 or The Crew, he simply tries to get you to buy from a site which allows people to sell keys.


This thread is full of the tin-hat brigade and people foaming at the mouth screaming conspiracies. You swap 'Assassins Creed key' for anything else, a Ford Focus, an iPhone, jewellery etc. Then swap G2A or Kinguin with [well known auction site], and theres not a single person in here who'd be arguing that its about how much was paid, that you should be entitled to keep illegally obtained goods (even with no wrong-doing). But cos its a video game, by a hate (rightly so) publisher, then its acceptable.

Also, FTR, i dont agree on the early statement that 'if you buy from these cheap sites, you accept the risk [that its stolen]'. What rubbish! Being cheap != stolen. There are plenty of legit sellers on these sites, but theres bound to be some looking to take advantage. If they havent got lots of reputation and the store doesnt offer insurance (not that you need to take it) then it should set alarm bells, rightly or wrongly.
Ive bought a handful of games from Kinguin, reputable sellers, and ive also gone direct to overseas stores like the Nuu one in Brazil (not sure about naming names, although we've listed G2A and Kinguin so...) and they've been fine. Why? Because they're legitimate keys, legally obtained, and sold at a price that happens to be considerably cheaper, because they've legally obtained them at cheaper prices.
 
Atleast G2A are showing they are covering the peepz who bought from them...Well going from what I've heard ^^. Soo nooo problemo continuing to buy from my lovely cheap sites :D
 
that's ridiculous, dont punish the customer that has bought the game, if they dont like their games being sold on key sites they should go after them and get them to remove all there ubisoft games

That's what there doing. Who do you think is the real loser in this? The customer has lost their game but gets a full refund from the key reseller (even if they have finished the game. Win!). Or the key reseller who is having to refund all customers who complain that their game is gone, and is probably now sitting on thousands of pounds of useless stock.

Not sure why people are claiming that this is either illegal or against the EULA. It clearly states in Ubisofts Terms of Service that they have the right to withdraw access to one or more of their services at any time without any notice (https://www.ubisoft.com/en-US/terms-of-service.html - Section 16). This isn't any different to Steam or Origin.

There has been some clarification on which keys were revoked on Reddit. Only copies "bought" from unauthorized 3rd party resellers were revoked.

Examples of authorized resellers: GreenManGaming, Humble Store, Gamestop, Amazon, GamersGate, GoG

Examples of unauthorized resellers: G2A, Kinguin and basically most other shady sounding websites that ONLY sell Steam/Uplay/Origin keys

Ubisoft do have the right to do this. They state who can sell their keys and revoke any which haven't been sold by these people. However, I think they've handled this badly. They should have told users why their game had been revoked and that they should contact the key reseller for a refund. Maybe even offered them a discount on the game which they had revoked so they could rebuy it at a similar cost through the official storefront.
 
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