Ubisoft deactivating keys it says were "fraudulently" obtained and resold

Considering the keys activate through uPlay, their own service, they have control. If someone buys a Steam key from a GAME store then begins to cheat online Valve has every right to ban them from playing that game. Also, I highly doubt Ubisoft want to be implicated in allowing keys to be used if they were originally bought using stolen credit cards etc.

That's irrelevant, they're selling them to resellers, they need to get over it.

As for your comment on Valve, no they don't have every right to remove people's access to games just because they're cheating and it's absurd to even suggest that.

They have the right to ban them from official Valve multilayer servers, and maybe let others know that they're cheaters by indicating it on their profile, but that's it.

They have no right, legally or morally to actually stop them accessing a game that they have purchased.
 
I think what's happened is that Ubisoft has decided to try and push up the standard retail price of a game to match their higher console prices. They've used a clause in their licences (in itself a dodge around consumer law), to close down cheap resellers who were using the internet to sell all over the world. Ubisoft hope to drive every potential customer to their own online service and get everyone to pay full RRP.

What will happen is those people that were happy to shop around and pay less for a game will either stop buying Ubisoft games, or turn to piracy (especially if they've just had a licence cancelled). Instead of getting some money, Ubisoft will get no money from those people.

Ubisoft should have ensured that these licences never got activated in the first instance, not decide after the fact that they were going to take away the games that people have been playing for months. Ubisoft just didn't like not getting all the pie when someone sells out of region, even though they themselves have been using the internet to keep prices high in whatever regions they think will bear it, whilst selling cheaply elsewhere.

Once again, Ubisoft create a toxic relationship with the customer that will actually reduce sales and drive people towards piracy, another product, or away from PC gaming altogether.

Agree with pretty much all that, and a lot of people will find themsleves in your second paragraph.

The problem is, most people are thick as ****, and will continue to buy overpriced, overhyped, actually BROKEN games on release. For example: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ed-unity-launch-beats-black-flags-in-uk-chart
 
It's shady practice on behalf of Ubisoft regardless how the keys were obtained.

First off if i had a key removed i would be asking for proof of their claims. As simply buying keys from another region isn't illegal.

If it's because they were purchased on stolen credit cards then again i would want proof. In no way would i take the blind word of a company like Ubisoft.
 
Why is G2A refunding everyone? Surely if Ubisoft is in the wrong here, they should be dragging them into court?

keep customers happy, would be bad news if they said sorry we can't refund the money. but yes they are getting the bad end of the stick here in my opinion :(
 
The keys came from Ubisoft. Ubisoft sold them at some point to someone, do you believe they they are issuing refunds to the parties they sold those keys to? As IF they are, and you full well know they're not.

They're not correct, no.

100% agreement here.

Ubisoft have almost certainly not given the keys to these 3rd party suppliers for free, and the 3rd party suppliers have almost certainly not stolen/hacked the keys from Ubisoft - a legit transaction has taken place somewhere.

It looks to me like a load of people in an Ivory tower are displeased that people are buying things outside of Uplay, and they don't like that...

If Ubisoft actually came forward and declared that the 3rd party sites had performed some sort of illegal activity, which enabled them to re-sell the keys then fine, but I don't believe that has happened - I don't believe those 3rd party suppliers would take such a risk, as they'd simply open themselves up for prosecution..
 
lol @ people still buying ubicrap games

If they didn't have hordes of console ***** to make up for the lost profit from the PC side of things then I doubt things would have gone this way. good luck to them I guess, time will tell if their aggressiveness pays off or not
 
maybe all these games were key generated and ubisoft has found out which range of serials were generated. I buy from greenmangaming and I've never had anything removed. I don't buy from g2a because their site always looks so pirate.
 
The keys came from Ubisoft. Ubisoft sold them at some point to someone, do you believe they they are issuing refunds to the parties they sold those keys to? As IF they are, and you full well know they're not.

They're not correct, no.

Ubisoft either sold them or they were given out for free but they did so under certain terms and conditions which were broken when the keys ended up on third party sites. They are correct, they shouldn't be held accoutable for the business practices of other companies. Furthermore, Ubisoft did not delete all such keys, which suggests they did it only in the cases where they have evidence of fraud.
 
Ubisoft either sold them or they were given out for free but they did so under certain terms and conditions which were broken when the keys ended up on third party sites. They are correct, they shouldn't be held accoutable for the business practices of other companies. Furthermore, Ubisoft did not delete all such keys, which suggests they did it only in the cases where they have evidence of fraud.

Have you seen the terms and conditions that exist between Ubisoft and the 3rd party suppliers, for the distribution of keys?
 
Have you seen the terms and conditions that exist between Ubisoft and the 3rd party suppliers, for the distribution of keys?

I don't need to see them. If Ubisoft says the keys were fraudulently obtained, I'll take their word for it. Notice how the key sellers often are very quick to make refunds, which indicates Ubisoft is correct.
 
I don't need to see them. If Ubisoft says the keys were fraudulently obtained, I'll take their word for it. Notice how the key sellers often are very quick to make refunds, which indicates Ubisoft is correct.

Don't you just love blind faith. Hallelujah ubisoft, I can see again!
 
I've never bought cheap keys before. Just because a region free game may be bought cheaper in a country with greater poverty doesn't make it morally right.

At least, for me personally.
 
I've never bought cheap keys before. Just because a region free game may be bought cheaper in a country with greater poverty doesn't make it morally right.

At least, for me personally.

Haha. I really hope you're being ironic. If not, the view atop your high moral horse must be stellar :D
 
Don't you just love blind faith. Hallelujah ubisoft, I can see again!

It's not blind faith, it's a rational position. I generally dislike Ubisoft games, most of them seem to be console ports, they ruined my favourite franchise (Heroes) and their releases suffer from bugs, errors etc. That being said, in this case their actions are perfectly legitimate, a company as large as Ubisoft does not make fraud claims without having a strong legal argument behind them. So yes, I take their word for it and the silence of the resellers speaks for itself.
 
I don't need to see them. If Ubisoft says the keys were fraudulently obtained, I'll take their word for it. Notice how the key sellers often are very quick to make refunds, which indicates Ubisoft is correct.

or that they have better customer service than those who you defend.
 
Please; G2A and cdkeys have good customer service; I've had a few issues with keys and both have fixed the issue straight away.

UBIsoft has burden of proof to prove the key I have was obtained; illegally or they've broken the law. They are breaking their own EULA.

They will get taken to court and this will stop....this isn't remotely the first time Ubisoft has pulled shady crap. They get called on it and they will stop....for awhile.

Ubisoft doesn't learn; their CEO is a flaming idiot; he straight up hates PC Gamers.....here's a just one of the gems from him

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/08/22/ubisoft-boss-declares-f2p-is-because-of-95-piracy-rates/

92-95% of all pc games are pirated by his accounts....wait wtf? *yes that's from 2012 but he's not gotten better*

This was from November; from Forbes....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/11/14/its-time-to-boycott-ubisofts-pc-games/

Ubisoft is full of crap; what they are doing is illegal; and breaks their own EULA.....but people want to defend them......wow
 
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