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Carrick was at the base of us winning 2 EPL titles and one CL (baring in mind he played over 50 games in both seasons) so he cant be that average - not to mention he was the ONLY transfer the summer before we won the 1st of the current three EPL titles - obviously meaning he was one of the missing links to us gaining back the title

(Im not sure how many games he played last season but it was a fair number, so it could easily be said 3 EPL titles and 2 CL finals- with one win)

Yes he hasnt played well this season - but its not just down to him either

This is an accurate and sensible post but unfortunately it is lost among the usual knee-jerk dross.
 
are you suggesting that stating that Carrick was particularly terrible in Moscow is incorrect? or that he was at least partly at fault against bayern is mis-information?

buying a new striker doesnt solve this problem.

like i said above having to play 3 CMs because any 2 of our 4 arent good enough to cut it without huge support?
 
I didn't know we had this many Manchester United fans, funny how they all come out of the woodwork when they want to slate the team (or Carrick in this case, seems to be his turn)
 
This is an accurate and sensible post but unfortunately it is lost among the usual knee-jerk dross.

thank you :)

are you suggesting that stating that Carrick was particularly terrible in Moscow is incorrect?

Yes its completely incorrect - Utd wouldnt have held their own for 120 minutes + with 10 men (and dominated a fair amount of the match to boot) against Chelsea that night

or that he was at least partly at fault against bayern is mis-information?

He was equally at fault along with his team mates, In the 1st leg Utd sat back too much after scoring early and let them come onto us (all players on the pitch where responsible for that , but the whole of the midfield especially - not just one player) , the second leg was made hugely difficult by the sending off, but also the whole midfield lost a bit of fight and impetus which allowed BM to constantly attack Utd for 30 minutes or so (apart from a few counters)

Not one player was responsible for either imo, although I do think the fact Ribery "woke up" as soon as Rafael was sent off was an enormous factor in going out in the 1/4's

LOL...i seem to remember his setting up Robbens goal that sent you packing from the CL;):p

If that makes him useless then id hate to think what makes him useful:p

Robben made the goal - yes Ribery may have been the last person to touch the ball before him, not really a "setup/assist" though imo
 
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I didn't know we had this many Manchester United fans, funny how they all come out of the woodwork when they want to slate the team (or Carrick in this case, seems to be his turn)

Well they are probably the most supported team in the world, so it's hardly surprising.

People are bound to look for a reason as to why the team is failing, and you and Spawn seem to be relishing in your Utd hatred as you so often do :p
 
Well they are probably the most supported team in the world, so it's hardly surprising.

People are bound to look for a reason as to why the team is failing, and you and Spawn seem to be relishing in your Utd hatred as you so often do :p

Hatred?

:D
 
thank you :)


Yes its completely incorrect - Utd wouldnt have held their own for 120 minutes + with 10 men (and dominated a fair amount of the match to boot) against Chelsea that night


He was equally at fault along with his team mates, In the 1st leg Utd sat back too much after scoring early and let them come onto us (all players on the pitch where responsible for that , but the whole of the midfield especially - not just one player) , the second leg was made hugely difficult by the sending off, but also the whole midfield lost a bit of fight and impetus which allowed BM to constantly attack Utd for 30 minutes or so (apart from a few counters)

Not one player was responsible for either imo, although I do think the fact Ribery "woke up" as soon as Rafael was sent off was an enormous factor in going out in the 1/4's

dont quote me on this but didnt lampards goal hit carrick and went in, or wasnt it carricks fault for that goal against chelsea? (i forget)

but i did actually mean against barca not sure why i said in Moscow. But against Barca it was carrick who let them steal the ball to then score WHILST not even trying to win the ball back - sign of a bad midfielder.

against bayern carrick did so bad they had to sub him off..

in what world do you sub off your best centre midfielder if he isnt playing totally cack - given that you have a lot of other players who needed subbing for fitness reasons etc?
 
dont quote me on this but didnt lampards goal hit carrick and went in, or wasnt it carricks fault for that goal against chelsea? (i forget)

So you blame Rooney for BM's 2nd goal in Germany then (as that riccoched off his ***?

To be honest I dont recall who it came off, but from what I remember the Chelsea goal was a multiple riccochet in Moscow so that was just unlucky

but i did actually mean against barca not sure why i said in Moscow. But against Barca it was carrick who let them steal the ball to then score WHILST not even trying to win the ball back - sign of a bad midfielder.

Or maybe a sign of someone who was playing with a broken foot and doing the best he could at the time


against bayern carrick did so bad they had to sub him off..

in what world do you sub off your best centre midfielder if he isnt playing totally cack - given that you have a lot of other players who needed subbing for fitness reasons etc?

Or Utd needed a different type of player, its not like it was a like for like swap (as Scholes took the holding role Carrick was playing and Gibson took Scholes role), Rooney kept on indicating he was ok if SAF felt that strongly he should have done something sooner in regards to injured players (we had been playing with 10 men for about 20 minutes plus before half time due to WR's injury - cant blame MC for that)
 
LOL...i seem to remember his setting up Robbens goal that sent you packing from the CL;):p

If that makes him useless then id hate to think what makes him useful:p

Wow so one corner means he wasn't rubbish in both legs..... didn't know that's all it took
 
I didn't know we had this many Manchester United fans, funny how they all come out of the woodwork when they want to slate the team (or Carrick in this case, seems to be his turn)

The majority of United fans on this forum are just spoilt glory hunters to be honest who thinks if the team aren't playing like Barcelona then player x y and z need to be sold and the manager needs replacing
 
Hi United fans,

Meet nickg, he never has a good word to say about United, if we won everything next season he would find something to moan about, it's just the way he is.

Mention Asda checkout girls and he might disappear again.
 
I didn't know we had this many Manchester United fans, funny how they all come out of the woodwork when they want to slate the team (or Carrick in this case, seems to be his turn)

Didn't you support United when you first joined the forum? And then one day miraculously announced you were a Sheffield Wednesday fan? :confused:
 
I wasn't going to mention that but yes, yes he did.

But lets not start the whole "why do you support so and so" it will only end it tears like the last time.
 
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