United v Arsenal **SPOILER**

Originally posted by Cemetery
Man U should have won

Please explain why? They didn't have any clear cut chances and yes we did play for a draw, thats wat Roma, Ajax and Valencia did to us last season and even though we had the better chances people still said a draw was a fair result.....
 
Originally posted by Gooner14
For what? He was inside the area!

Violent conduct. Same for Keown really. Cannot comment on a stamp by ruud as I didn't see it in the game.

The comment I made was that Man U should have won, & they should. They had the home advantage, they had more shots on target (i.e. more than none) & chased the game unlike Arsenal who were playing for a draw (was like watching Liverpool in places even Arsenal fans must have been bored) & really really showing how they don't deserve their reputation as being a team with disapline problems ;)

Tbh, I think Arsenal are heading toward being more disliked than Chelsea for me now which is kind of a shocker for me as I really don't like Chelsea :p

edit for Jazz - the above + you should have been a number of players down thus couldn't have defended as well.
 
Originally posted by Gooner14


What do you think about Neville's punch? Fortune?

Well I really dont know as I didn't see them I only saw what happed after the match on sky and that involved the Arsenal players, but if they did throw punches like stated it makes them no better than the Arsenal players, BUT there is no evidence of this (camera footage) whereas for our incidents there oviously was so it's kinda your word againt ours!
 
Originally posted by CliffyG
woodwork doesnt count as a shot on target surely?

In the world according to Andy Gray anything that hits the woodwork is on target :o

Originally posted by Badboy2k3
Well I really dont know as I didn't see them I only saw what happed after the match on sky and that involved the Arsenal players, but if they did throw punches like stated it makes them no better than the Arsenal players

Can't do anything but show approval for this. Dead right.
 
Originally posted by Badboy2k3
BUT there is no evidence of this (camera footage) whereas for our incidents there oviously was so it's kinda your word againt ours!

So Why should AFC be charged by video evidence when other players are doing things (might be /might not) on camera are not charged? Double Standards?

Either every indicent should be looked at or none.
 
Originally posted by Gooner14
So Why should AFC be charged by video evidence when other players are doing things (might be /might not) on camera are not charged? Double Standards?

Either every indicent should be looked at or none.

What can the FA do if the cameras don't catch it? Poll the fans? They can't ask the ref, he's already made his report. 4th official? Possibly, but how could he see more than the ref?
 
Originally posted by Gooner14
So Why should AFC be charged by video evidence when other players are doing things (might be /might not) on camera are not charged? Double Standards?

Either every indicent should be looked at or none.

True, but anyone can say he threw a punch at me afterwards and make allegations etc. Arsenal may just be trying to find excuses for what happened and may hope to get off lighter by making us look as bad as there were by making these allegations (spelling?).

(Well you asked for my opinion)
 
Originally posted by Gilly
What can the FA do if the cameras don't catch it? Poll the fans? They can't ask the ref, he's already made his report. 4th official? Possibly, but how could he see more than the ref?

Exactly my point. Why should one person be charged because a camera caught it yet another is not.

Why should a game shown Live on Sky be examined more closely than any other?

Also I find it amazing that people are talking about a points deduction, this is purely because Richard Keys suggested it!
 
Originally posted by Badboy2k3
True, but anyone can say he threw a punch at me afterwards and make allegations etc. Arsenal may just be trying to find excuses for what happened and may hope to get off lighter by making us look as bad as there were by making these allegations (spelling?).

(Well you asked for my opinion)

It was the newspaper report (link above somewhere) who have claimed he threw a punch at Parlour
 
Originally posted by Gooner14
Exactly my point. Why should one person be charged because a camera caught it yet another is not.

Proof. Evidence. Innocent until proven guilty.

Originally posted by Gooner14
Why should a game shown Live on Sky be examined more closely than any other?

I don't think that was ever a design, merely a bonus.

Originally posted by Gooner14

Also I find it amazing that people are talking about a points deduction, this is purely because Richard Keys suggested it!

I hope not. Keys known almost as little as Hansen.
 
Originally posted by Gilly
Proof. Evidence. Innocent until proven guilty.

Agreed but what about when they won't/don't use it?

(slightly off topic)
What about when Vieria was send off v Chelsea last year. He was accused of mouthing off (like most players do) Yet Druso's version was completely untrue. An expert lip reader was used to prove what he said was different to Druso's version of eventsand was in fact a lie, yet he was still charged?
(on topic)

What annoys most is when it is used in some case's yet not in others?
 
Originally posted by astraman
What dose that sound like you couldn't beat them, so what confidence did you gain from todays match that told you that you are championship contenders

sorry but what youve stated makes no sense to me, did i mention confidence ? dont think i did. i simply stated Man Utd are playing bad at the momment, we always start bad, in recent seasons we have anyway.
 
Originally posted by Gooner14
Agreed but what about when they won't/don't use it?

Consistency is the key. The FA need to show that they are ridding themselves of the manyoo bias they've shown for the past 10 years ;) :D

Originally posted by Gooner14
(slightly off topic)
What about when Vieria was send off v Chelsea last year. He was accused of mouthing off (like most players do) Yet Druso's version was completely untrue. An expert lip reader was used to prove what he said was different to Druso's version of eventsand was in fact a lie, yet he was still charged?
(on topic)

Didn't know anything about that so can't comment. Sounds unfair to me though.

Maybe its because Durso knows he's ****.

Originally posted by Gooner14

What annoys most is when it is used in some case's yet not in others?

Again, all about consistency.
 
Originally posted by xgfunk
sorry but what youve stated makes no sense to me, did i mention confidence ? dont think i did. i simply stated Man Utd are playing bad at the momment, we always start bad, in recent seasons we have anyway.

According to most people on here Arsenal are playing badly too so it's kind of a moot point. We all know both teams are capable of much more and that at their best there is little if anything between them.
 
Originally posted by Gooner14
Agreed but what about when they won't/don't use it?

(slightly off topic)
What about when Vieria was send off v Chelsea last year. He was accused of mouthing off (like most players do) Yet Druso's version was completely untrue. An expert lip reader was used to prove what he said was different to Druso's version of eventsand was in fact a lie, yet he was still charged?
(on topic)

What annoys most is when it is used in some case's yet not in others?

Yeh consistancy is a big problem but what can you do? tbh its always going to be the same all clubs are in the same boat.
 
Think I have said enough today I seem to be repeating myself!

I suppose all we can do know is wait for the F.A and see what they have to say on the matter as this thread seems to be going nowhere.
 
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