When the Gpu's prices will go down ?

Hotwired · 7 Mar 2023 at 05:16

TNA said:
That sounds great, but could be classed as short term thinking too. If market share and mind share continues to erode, it will be really hard to come back from and repair such damage.

But anyway, that's for them and AMD fans to worry about. All I know is if they want my money regularly again they need to offer value like they used to before and not follow Nvidia in trying to penetrate every single orifice they can.

I think it is a short term strategy.

Being fabless they have no gigantic costs by cutting back production of gpus and can price fix with Nvidia until the events of the last few years settle down.

Zarax · 7 Mar 2023 at 06:08

Dual said:
To the OP my bet is when/if Nvidias rent a GPU scheme (Geforce Now) fails then GPUs will become lower priced. As long as they can rent GPUs to people while retaining ownership of the product they'll keep GPU prices high.

You pay for the service as it's more manageable to fork out so much a month, then they take your data, location, games played, when you play for how long what you do when you play and sell that data too!

Yes, for both players selling consumer GPUs is a way to subsidize research for either high margin (Nvidia data center) or high volume (AMD semi-custom) segments, so selling GPUs basically is a nice to have now.
After all, JPR estimated 2 million GPUs sold last quarter, which is not exactly a lot...

Murphy · 7 Mar 2023 at 09:17

Zarax said:
...JPR estimated 2 million GPUs sold last quarter, which is not exactly a lot...

Source? Because from what I've been looking at it shows it's a lot more than that, unless I'm looking at it wrong that is. :confused:

Zarax · 7 Mar 2023 at 09:39

John Peddie latest report, 60000 GPU skewed the market share by 3%, which means the total sales should be around 2 million last quarter, I'd be happy to be proven wrong on this TBH.

RavenXXX2 · 7 Mar 2023 at 10:25

Murphy · 7 Mar 2023 at 10:34

Zarax said:
John Peddie latest report, 60000 GPU skewed the market share by 3%, which means the total sales should be around 2 million last quarter, I'd be happy to be proven wrong on this TBH.

What can't you post links or something?

Hotwired · 7 Mar 2023 at 10:36

Murphy said:
What can't you post links or something?

It was posted earlier: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...-will-go-down.18930720/page-189#post-36254284

Zarax · 7 Mar 2023 at 11:07

Murphy said:
What can't you post links or something?

No, Intel Didn't Actually Sell More GPUs Than AMD, Firm Overcounted 60,000 GPUs

60,000 Ponte Vecchio GPUs were inadvertently added.

www.tomshardware.com

Was 9%, take out 60000 GPUs it's now 6% which translates in roughly 120k Intel GPUs, 180k AMD and everything else Nvidiea for a total of about 2 million.

TNA · 7 Mar 2023 at 11:11

RavenXXX2 said:

Let me know once the 7900 XTX reaches sub £700

Murphy · 7 Mar 2023 at 11:36

Zarax said:
No, Intel Didn't Actually Sell More GPUs Than AMD, Firm Overcounted 60,000 GPUs

60,000 Ponte Vecchio GPUs were inadvertently added.

www.tomshardware.com

Was 9%, take out 60000 GPUs it's now 6% which translates in roughly 120k Intel GPUs, 180k AMD and everything else Nvidiea for a total of about 2 million.

My maths has always been pretty awful but if 60,000 results in a 2% change doesn't that mean the total was 3 million?

e: Told you my maths was bad, i couldn't even count to three. :cry:

Zarax · 7 Mar 2023 at 11:40

Murphy said:
My maths has always been pretty awful but if 60,000 results in a 2% change doesn't that mean the total was 3 million?

e: Told you my maths was bad, i couldn't even count to three.

Glad you edited it in time, anyway even 3 million would have been a pretty bad number, especially as it contains the end of year season.

Murphy · 7 Mar 2023 at 11:46

Zarax said:
Glad you edited it in time...

Whys that...*looks around nervously*

Is it the end of year season, if as the article you linked to JPR is counting average selling price of GPUs against each manufactures declared financial results wouldn't it have a quarters lag?

Zarax · 7 Mar 2023 at 11:49

Murphy said:
Whys that...*looks around nervously*

Is it the end of year season, if as the article you linked to JPR is counting average selling price of GPUs against each manufactures declared financial results wouldn't it have a quarters lag?

Well, we're almost at the end of Q1 2023 and those were shipped items, not sold to customers.

kieran_read · 7 Mar 2023 at 13:19

Zarax said:
Well, we're almost at the end of Q1 2023 and those were shipped items, not sold to customers.

Good news for us though if they're not selling they can lower the bloody prices to more realistic levels.

Zarax · 7 Mar 2023 at 13:28

kieran_read said:
Good news for us though if they're not selling they can lower the bloody prices to more realistic levels.

Problem is that those are shipping numbers, meaning they are keeping stock levels low.

iron_monkey · 7 Mar 2023 at 13:35

What % of those sales have been returned for coil whine though?

Zarax · 7 Mar 2023 at 13:51

iron_monkey said:
What % of those sales have been returned for coil whine though?

Does it even matter?

neeb · 7 Mar 2023 at 18:14

The thing is what do people actually think the reduction percentage would be, if you take the 4080fe for example @ £1,199 I think you’d be lucky if they took £100 off “if” any reductions ever happen. Then you have to think to yourself was it worth boycotting the card to save £100 ?

KungFuSpaghetti · 7 Mar 2023 at 18:50

neeb said:
The thing is what do people actually think the reduction percentage would be, if you take the 4080fe for example @ £1,199 I think you’d be lucky if they took £100 off “if” any reductions ever happen. Then you have to think to yourself was it worth boycotting the card to save £100 ?

No, boycotting it completely as well as all this generations cards would make more sense.
Would be better if retailers just refused to stock them entirely tbh.

Zarax · 7 Mar 2023 at 18:56

neeb said:
The thing is what do people actually think the reduction percentage would be, if you take the 4080fe for example @ £1,199 I think you’d be lucky if they took £100 off “if” any reductions ever happen. Then you have to think to yourself was it worth boycotting the card to save £100 ?

No, the only sane move is to set a budget and stick to it.
For example, my max amount for a GPU is 600€, which gets me a RX 6800 on a very good deal day.

Then it's easy to find out if it's a good buy, just answer the following: Is it significantly better (50%+) than what I have now?

If yes, buy, if not, skip this gen. Just set how much you're ready to shell for a card and see where that brings you. Right now if you don't care about RT the smart money would say RX 6700XT.