Where did the paranormal go?

weathmatth said:
But surely with all this "Evidence" at least a handful of stories/events/videos/photos should standout as being plausible or proof over the rest of the false claims?
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They do. Go look for them, they're incredibly easy to find.
 
MikeTheNative said:
There's too much evidence to prove it is true? That makes no sense at all.
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weathmatth said:
But surely with all this "Evidence" at least a handful of stories/events/videos/photos should standout as being plausible or proof over the rest of the false claims?
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I put 'evidence' in inverted commas intentionally. I've certainly seen quite a lot of very interesting things captured on film but I can't say that any of it is actually dead people. If you find any ghost hunting group on Facebook, for instance, the chances are that there will be hundreds of EVPs, photographs, videos (and more) posted that would, decades ago, have been given far more exposure. Now there are so many of these things that they are, dare I say it, kind of boring.
 
Dis86 said:
It's worth pointing out that we have have more hours of video footage of paranormal occurrences than we do of the dark side of the moon. We accept the dark side of the moon is as it appears to be though, don't we?
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What? Science requires a lot more than random dodgy video footage and other people's testimony till it get's called a fact. Scientific models as well as a host of other evidence pointed to that the moon is spherical so must have a dark side, this was well before anyone saw it. Believing in the paranormal is like believing in god. You need faith to believe it as their is no tangible proof.
 
MikeTheNative said:
What? Science requires a lot more than random dodgy video footage and other people's testimony till it get's called a fact. Scientific models as well as a host of other evidence pointed to that the moon is spherical so must have a dark side, this was well before anyone saw it. Believing in the paranormal is like believing in god. You need faith to believe it as their is no tangible proof.
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I just find it also convenient that if its recorded then its fake. If someone sees it, then it's hallucinating. If its believed in, then its faith.
You can't see the wind but you can see its effect.
I've seen beings, not ghosts. And if you don't believe, come and very very seriously do a ouija board, let's see if your "faith". In science stops you from filling your gucci y fronts
 
Illuminist said:
I used to be a satanist about 20 years ago, not ashamed to say now.
I saw things that couldn't be explained by science, corroborated by other witnesses sometimes, sometimes i was alone.
But will anyone in this world believe me? No.
This is what's changed, information and ridicule overload. School peer pressure has turned into world wide Internet and social media ridicule and peer pressure.
Awaiting torrent of laughing.....
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You know what - I don't disbelieve you. I believe that you saw it. But I don't believe for a second that there's anything paranormal. It's just that we don't, at the time, know how to explain it. I've had incredibly rational people tell me what they've seen, my wife for example, and I also believe her. She's seen a ghost. But a ghost isn't a paranormal artifact - it's some form of brain activity that isn't easily explicable.
 
Illuminist said:
I just find it also convenient that if its recorded then its fake. If someone sees it, then it's hallucinating. If its believed in, then its faith.
You can't see the wind but you can see its effect.
I've seen beings, not ghosts. And if you don't believe, come and very very seriously do a ouija board, let's see if your "faith". In science stops you from filling your gucci y fronts
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People have 'seen' aliens, loch ness monsters, bigfoot. This is why just 3rd hand accounts and video footage is not enough to prove something is real. Also bringing up the ouija board is funny as that is something proven in the lab to be complete crap.
 
dirtychinchilla said:
You know what - I don't disbelieve you. I believe that you saw it. But I don't believe for a second that there's anything paranormal. It's just that we don't, at the time, know how to explain it. I've had incredibly rational people tell me what they've seen, my wife for example, and I also believe her. She's seen a ghost. But a ghost isn't a paranormal artifact - it's some form of brain activity that isn't easily explicable.
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What I saw wasn't ghosts either, but they saw me too. And my cat what I saw once also.
 
MikeTheNative said:
People have 'seen' aliens, loch ness monsters, bigfoot. This is why just 3rd hand accounts and video footage is not enough to prove something is real. Also bringing up the ouija board is funny as that is something proven in the lab to be complete crap.
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Come do one, bring spare gucci y fronts
 
Very few people believe this rubbish anymore, that said there are still plenty is mediums (con-artists) around making a living, as well as fruit loops who hear voices and see things that aren't there.
 
MikeTheNative said:
What? Science requires a lot more than random dodgy video footage and other people's testimony till it get's called a fact. Scientific models as well as a host of other evidence pointed to that the moon is spherical so must have a dark side, this was well before anyone saw it. Believing in the paranormal is like believing in god. You need faith to believe it as their is no tangible proof.
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Missed the point. We know it has one, just not what's on there. Yet we believe the footage that shows us what's there.

Your language also shows your ingrained prejudice. Dodgy video footage...
Keep in mind many scientific theorems have no observable evidence at all and yet are widely accepted!
 
Ghosts and spooks etc are in the past because they are a load of crap. Now we can all have a camera on us at all times one would expect a huge influx of paranormal stuff if it were true, which it isn't. Sure there is stuff we cannot explain, does not mean it is supernatural. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
 
Dis86 said:
Actually, that makes no difference as people can still involuntarily move it. Massively unreliable things!
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Its funny reading these comments as you have no idea what happens with a ouija board. Just a Hollywood film version of hand on a glass.. Ooooh it moved and spelled "im a complete normy"
Such a divide between us people that know there is more to reality than the 0.0001% of it we can experience with the visible and audible spectrum and the firm believers in science which proves we are made of tiny bubbles with orbiting electricity that you've also never seen but believe in
 
Illuminist said:
Its funny reading these comments as you have no idea what happens with a ouija board. Just a Hollywood film version of hand on a glass.. Ooooh it moved and spelled "im a complete normy"
Such a divide between us people that know there is more to reality than the 0.0001% of it we can experience with the visible and audible spectrum and the firm believers in science which proves we are made of tiny bubbles with orbiting electricity that you've also never seen but believe in
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I can tell you what happens with a Ouija board, nothing.
 
Illuminist said:
You can't see the wind but you can see its effect.
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That's like saying bad things happen to good people because God wills it and they will be rewarded when they die. I didn't just make that up, that is the exact thing many people have said over the years when that kind of conversation crops up.

We know the wind is real even if we cannot see it, the same way we know radiation is real because both can be observed 100% of the time in action, it can be tested, it can be verified, it can also be documented by anyone on the planet.

Spectres spooking around in the night cannot.

Do you recall James Randi's million dollar challenge? He put it up in the 60s and it was only ended in 2015 with no winner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge

I think another person continued a similar challenge but cannot remember the name. But that also remains unclaimed.

I wonder why!
 
It's become too easy to fake things so none of the new material is worth paying any attention to, even a lot ye old photos might have been fake but at least they would have had to put a lot of effort in.

I used to enjoy reading about Borley Rectory etc but these days you have people getting hysterical over any photo with a lighting anomaly in it.
 
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