Where's the QHD 144hz Smart Money at?
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Fair do's. Sure, will write up something in here once I've got it up and running. Should be tomorrow.
The new Innolux panel is also cabable of 10-bit colour when running at 120 Hz or below, the default 144 Hz is 8-bit. I bought a VG270UP at the weekend but had to return it yesterday due to a weird inch-wide red blotch showing on dark shades. I did like the image quality, though, and also that you could have VRB (anti-blur) enabled at 120 Hz and 10-bit colour. I'm still deciding whether to reorder a replacement.
Pick one up on Monday let you know if it has any q.c. issues tues.wed, if that is any help. Was going to order an the Auros today but compromise on response in relation to price does not work for me.
I could live with the hassle of a return if Q.C is poor, price/feature set is good enough to accept some risk and some compromise if it has no q.c issues.
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Ordered the Dell today. I debated with myself until I was sick to the back teeth...ips or tn... Was tempted by the above mentioned Acer but decided I couldn't live with slower response times, I just can't stand blurring. So the Dell got the vote with the wallet. I'll update my amatuer opinions but just wanted to thank everyone who had contributed to this thread for all the input and sharing of information.
I’d like to hear some more information about the two Acer IPS monitors. Finding anything online is like hunting hen’s teeth, while the monitors are available to buy.
£375 for an IPS 144hz with FreeSync is very tempting, but not if they use panels unsuitable for high refresh, or the FreeSync range is 44-75hz or something daft.
And what is the difference between the cheaper and more expensive models?
Edit - the more expensive model appears to support hdr400. Does that mean it has a different panel? Also one reviewer on the rainforest mentions they need to disable FreeSync to enable HDR. What’s that all about?
£375 for an IPS 144hz with FreeSync is very tempting, but not if they use panels unsuitable for high refresh, or the FreeSync range is 44-75hz or something daft.
And what is the difference between the cheaper and more expensive models?
Edit - the more expensive model appears to support hdr400. Does that mean it has a different panel? Also one reviewer on the rainforest mentions they need to disable FreeSync to enable HDR. What’s that all about?
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I don't think it is possible for DP1.2a to carry the DCI-P3 gamut at the same time as 144Hz.
Fairly sure HDR is HDMI only, as 144Hz and DCI-P3 requires more bandwidth than is available on 1.2a, which is fine if you have an AMD GPU.
Unless of course the DP is 1.4?
Fairly sure HDR is HDMI only, as 144Hz and DCI-P3 requires more bandwidth than is available on 1.2a, which is fine if you have an AMD GPU.
Unless of course the DP is 1.4?
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From what I can understand on the more expensive model you have to disable adaptive sync on NVIDIA cards to enable H.D.R, not sure what the case is for A.M.D.
I just watched a difficult to follow review of the Aorus (same panel same H.D.R 400 as the Acer) in Filpino with some broken English on H.D.R, "the sad part is its not what I expected." Its in line with other reviews on H.D.R 400 not being a worth while feature.
The Acer does not have any detailed reviews, the Aorus has one from hardware unboxed, downside was a slower grey to grey response time 'giving the panel the feel of 120 hz monitor.' Reviewer seemed to think this was down to gigabytes implementation of overdrive and could be improved.
Free sync range is fine, cheaper model has the same panel as the more expensive model, 10 bit support is limited to a 120 hz and it does not support H.D.R Grey to Grey response time is unknown but seems to be in line with Aorus from report.
Its a punt, best outcome would be good image quality/ color with a compromise, an 'acceptable response' time and improvement over older panels but not the fastest at £370. i.e effectively its a 120 h.z monitor with 10 bit support, more color with more pop.
Worst outcome, response is not acceptable or q.c is poor and may require a return.
Update: I will have one at the weekend, give a shout if it has any issues.
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Found a review
https://uk.ign.com/articles/2018/11/12/acer-vg270u-gaming-monitor-review
Fortunately before ordering this morning.
Easy to miss as it's mistakenly titled. VG27OU (75h hz)rather than VG270UP (144 hz) hardly in-depth and the screw up with the name is not exactly inspiring but the comment on response time "mediocre at best."
Its enough to inspire fear given other comments and the one other review on the panel.
https://uk.ign.com/articles/2018/11/12/acer-vg270u-gaming-monitor-review
Fortunately before ordering this morning.
Easy to miss as it's mistakenly titled. VG27OU (75h hz)rather than VG270UP (144 hz) hardly in-depth and the screw up with the name is not exactly inspiring but the comment on response time "mediocre at best."
Its enough to inspire fear given other comments and the one other review on the panel.
I have the Dell arriving tomorrow as well. Glad I caught the review in time I think its the right choice.
Out of all display types, TN is the one with compromises I couldn’t live with. I had a TN ROG Swift for a brief time and every time I moved it was like viewing the image through a set of vertical blinds.
With the Acers looking average at best I might try a 32” VA and see if I can live with the ghosting. My experience of VA is that the colours are far more vibrant than IPS and without much glow.
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This is the same predicament I am going through myself, I cannot decide on a tech I can live with the compromises most.
I had the AOC AGON AG322QC4 which displayed purple ghosting when panning around scenes in games which are predominantly dark. I tested during night time in Far Cry 5, while moving around, the trees looked purple. Even walking slowly they would go purple.
But my thoughts on this vs TN, is these scenes wouldn't appear to be as dark as this to begin with!
Ideally I'd like a high refresh IPS, but they have issues with pixel response times too.
I had the AOC AGON AG322QC4 which displayed purple ghosting when panning around scenes in games which are predominantly dark. I tested during night time in Far Cry 5, while moving around, the trees looked purple. Even walking slowly they would go purple.
But my thoughts on this vs TN, is these scenes wouldn't appear to be as dark as this to begin with!
Ideally I'd like a high refresh IPS, but they have issues with pixel response times too.
4k is where its at.
But you'll need to spend more than that. Granted I've only had it a couple of days but I'm well impressed with the Acer Nitro.
He's got a generous father.
The agony is always the same. Should I really have paid for this rather than that, or the moment when you assemble £1000 worth of parts and you're finger hovers over the button for the first time. Will it work, what will it do, have I utterly screwed up somewhere?
The wait, pacing up and down waiting for the van to show, wondering if you have done the right thing.
The smell of new components in the morning.
I love it. Roll on tomorrow.
Been like that for last two years. All the "they are improving" I got from OCUK via their Acer Manager was rubbish. Apparently they have streamlined their warranty service it no longer goes round 3 companies before it gets fixed now.
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Haha all so true!
Seems a couple of you expecting the Dell tomorrow so I'll keep an eye on this thread. Just not sure if I can live with a TN as my main (and only) monitor.
I currently have an AOC Q2770P which has a Samsung S-PLS panel but is only 60Hz with no adaptive sync. I just csnt decide what I want!
QHD 27" or 32" though I'd prefer the latter. TN or VA, IPS high refresh too expensive for me and these Acer's aren't looking brill.
QHD UW 35", VA only available in my price range.
I have a dell ultrasharp. It's a very nice I.P.S. So I will be adjusting from a 60h.z I.P.S. with excellent image quality. Compromised for response, its what really bugs me the most. Let you know how that works out.
Monitor arrived.
Fired it up, no messing with settings and straight into a game of Overwatch. Initially thought yellows were a bit meh but hey ho, played a game and got an 18 kill streak. Told myself this is pure placebo. Played another game 19 kill streak. Played another game with response upped to fast and overclocked to 155hz, a frame limit of 152, free/Gsync on (gtx 1070) and got a 17 player kill streak and a quintuple kill. Yeah, hooray for new monitors making you think you play better.
I do think it feels smoother than the XB272 @ 240hz and colours appear more vibrant. Feels responsive and didn't notice any skipping.
Good experience so far. Have to say though I expected (don't know why) a DP cable but it came with an HDMI.
Youngest son is delighted with the 240hz monitor, going from a 22" ancient Hans Gee 60hz job. He offered me £100 from his Christmas money he has saved back. I took, then gave him £50 back and I will treat the whole family to a meal tonight from the local Chinese take away with the other £50.
I'll give him the other £50 in a month or so as well.
Fired it up, no messing with settings and straight into a game of Overwatch. Initially thought yellows were a bit meh but hey ho, played a game and got an 18 kill streak. Told myself this is pure placebo. Played another game 19 kill streak. Played another game with response upped to fast and overclocked to 155hz, a frame limit of 152, free/Gsync on (gtx 1070) and got a 17 player kill streak and a quintuple kill. Yeah, hooray for new monitors making you think you play better.
I do think it feels smoother than the XB272 @ 240hz and colours appear more vibrant. Feels responsive and didn't notice any skipping.
Good experience so far. Have to say though I expected (don't know why) a DP cable but it came with an HDMI.
Youngest son is delighted with the 240hz monitor, going from a 22" ancient Hans Gee 60hz job. He offered me £100 from his Christmas money he has saved back. I took, then gave him £50 back and I will treat the whole family to a meal tonight from the local Chinese take away with the other £50.
I'll give him the other £50 in a month or so as well.
