Pastis, an equal measure of Sirop Orgeat and plenty of water. Apéros of the Gods.I am a fan of Cornish pastis ,love the anaseed smell ,great with fresh orange juice or just on its own ,did a 70 cl bottle last month (yep I know)
I am interested in the meal plans that people have that are vegan. I don't have any vegan friends that look healthy, which is why I am curious. Note: my health is the opposite end, and 30llbs overweight from being at home with remote work, and not exercising.
As a non-vegan, my meals are mostly chicken and some fish. Mainly because of my wife's health issues so need to keep it fairly plain. I am sure she would appreciate some interesting veg meals. She cannot do grain/nuts due to risk of getting that in a pocket in her stomach though.
My view, our bodies are not built for just veg. People can get by in life on JUST crisps and soda, but their health suffers. I did go look up some vegan resources, and even found some vegan body builders. So it is possible it seems.
Those people have unhealthy diets/lifestyles who happen to vegan. It's a bit more difficult to eat a balanced diet when vegan (a lot of off the shelf stuff will have animal products) but fine with planning and a bit of cooking.I am interested in the meal plans that people have that are vegan. I don't have any vegan friends that look healthy, which is why I am curious. Note: my health is the opposite end, and 30llbs overweight from being at home with remote work, and not exercising.
As a non-vegan, my meals are mostly chicken and some fish. Mainly because of my wife's health issues so need to keep it fairly plain. I am sure she would appreciate some interesting veg meals. She cannot do grain/nuts due to risk of getting that in a pocket in her stomach though.
My view, our bodies are not built for just veg. People can get by in life on JUST crisps and soda, but their health suffers. I did go look up some vegan resources, and even found some vegan body builders. So it is possible it seems.
Also bringing up "palm oil" etc isn't an argument that veganism isn't good. It's not compulsory you buy products with it in if you're a vegan.
The post you've replied to wasn't a reply to you so that's gone a bit weird, but to be honest you're not making this any better; you said you'd rather kill 1000 insects than 1 pig, but now you've also said you're not vegan, so now I've got a picture of someone who goes around cataloguing and killing 1000 insects every time he eats bacon.You are now Completely mis quoting what I've said.
I'm not even vegan.
So you've misquoted and made an assumption.
You've also called me unhinged.
If it prevents one dog from standing on a bee then it's worth it!The post you've replied to wasn't a reply to you so that's gone a bit weird, but to be honest you're not making this any better; you said you'd rather kill 1000 insects than 1 pig, but now you've also said you're not vegan, so now I've got a picture of someone who goes around cataloguing and killing 1000 insects every time he eats bacon.
Right boys, we are in violent agreement. I'm trying to transcend palm oil = bad, to something slightly more useful. It is used in almost 50% of consumer products. Life could not continue as it currently is without it. That 50% excludes its commercial uses, too.
Being lectured by someone that has read a Facebook article clearly not the path to get there though.
There has been multiple studies into red/processed meat consumption and heart disease and other conditions. Japan consumes around half the red meat compared to most European countries and the US. Yes they eat meat, but in smaller quantities than rest of world. Your statement was simply that Japan eats meat so why do they live so long, but there are many factors such as less meat, better healthcare, great social care for elderly, continuing social engagement of older people within their family and society at large. The list is much larger - life expectancy is a complex equation, not just do they ever eat meat.
High fat foods aren't necessarily unhealthy.
I'm not going to go vegan but I am trying to cut down on meat and diary consumption. Trying to get a bit more creative and try some vegan meals, it's easy to get into a rut with food where you keep having the same things every week.
The post you've replied to wasn't a reply to you so that's gone a bit weird, but to be honest you're not making this any better; you said you'd rather kill 1000 insects than 1 pig, but now you've also said you're not vegan, so now I've got a picture of someone who goes around cataloguing and killing 1000 insects every time he eats bacon.
This is like the NIMBY argument to developing on green field.There must be other land beside virgin rainforest they can use. I expect it is the cheapest land to use and big business loves that. Also I can't work out if you actually care or are just playing the ultimate long troll game in this thread.
That's about co2 and doesnt cover the fact the methane which is 30x more damaging then c02 would massively increase from an increase in the vegetarian industry. While net C02 would be down, methane would be up and the overall effect is worse global warming as methane is much worse then c02. It also predates the more recent studies I posted before where scientists said they underestimated the pollution effects of the vegetarian industry and its double what they previously said it was.This post isn't entirely aimed at yourself..
Of course. I can imagine if it came to it the vast majority would to.
I actually don't eat bacon. Not a fan!
I'm not sure why you think I don't like insects.
I love insects, I know for well how important pollinators are.
Half of my garden is for nature.
Life becomes more important in the grand scheme as you go down the 'intelligence' scale.
I even keep insects at home. (exotics)
Just because I'm not a vegan doesn't mean I can't see that veganism is better for
A) suffering of animals
B) the environment
It is a better lifestyle. I'm not really sure how people can deny it.
I grew up around farming, pig farming, its brutal. And that's a small scale farm in the UK. What most would think is a pretty high standard. The conditions aren't great. A human would go crazy in there. And pigs are intelligent.
But the environmental point is hard to deny. Animals use a vast quantity of. Soya, wheat, other cereals. And dairy in particular uses water in a grand scale. Dwarfing crop production.
Again, this eating meat avoids deforestation is not a valid argument.
I had a quick search, and this link from nature is just a sample of information on it.
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Eat less meat: UN climate-change report calls for change to human diet
The report on global land use and agriculture comes amid accelerating deforestation in the Amazon.www.nature.com
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I haven't checked sources but it is a nature article. Not a vegan promoting site.
Palm oil isn't great, but using specific cases like this isn't an argument that vegan is worse than meat. Vegan doesn't mean you consume palm oil.
I'm not going to address diet as its something I don't know much about.
That's the thing...you seem to rank them in some order.
Like eating meat is not okay, having leather shoes is okay. What's the difference?
Neither is really okay, so I just minimise the overall amount and not criticise others. To really have any grounds to criticise others is if you live as a vegan Amish, which none of us are (you wouldn't be online as an Amish).
That's about co2 and doesnt cover the fact the methane which is 30x more damaging then c02 would massively increase from an increase in the vegetarian industry. While net C02 would be down, methane would be up and the overall effect is worse global warming as methane is much worse then c02. It also predates the more recent studies I posted before where scientists said they underestimated the pollution effects of the vegetarian industry and its double what they previously said it was.
Just because I'm not a vegan doesn't mean I can't see that veganism is better for
A) suffering of animals
B) the environment
It is a better lifestyle. I'm not really sure how people can deny it.
I grew up around farming, pig farming, its brutal. And that's a small scale farm in the UK. What most would think is a pretty high standard. The conditions aren't great. A human would go crazy in there. And pigs are intelligent.
But the environmental point is hard to deny. Animals use a vast quantity of. Soya, wheat, other cereals. And dairy in particular uses water in a grand scale. Dwarfing crop production.
Again, this eating meat avoids deforestation is not a valid argument.
I had a quick search, and this link from nature is just a sample of information on it.
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Eat less meat: UN climate-change report calls for change to human diet
The report on global land use and agriculture comes amid accelerating deforestation in the Amazon.www.nature.com
I haven't checked sources but it is a nature article. Not a vegan promoting site.
Palm oil isn't great, but using specific cases like this isn't an argument that vegan is worse than meat. Vegan doesn't mean you consume palm oil.
It's funny in a world with increasing food security issues developing farmland is so dumb it's unbelievable really. UK farmland is devoid of life anyway, we have completely trashed our natural environment we are literally world leaders in that regard but we still need food.This is like the NIMBY argument to developing on green field.